Dancer Archive

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Jessalyn_Bohicat wrote:

i feel the need to point out to the original poster, that as a maxed out xp dancer, you no longer need to be in the main group, depriving the slot to others who need xp, afk or not, hologrinder or not.

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Trust me, as a master dancer, NOT being in the main group is depriving them of more xp than being in the group is depriving that one person. Whenever I start dancing/playing music (Being master dancer AND musician) I get people listening/watching. Usually I'm just doing it for buffs (And it's not just the person being buffed that is getting healed - I can tell the difference) or maybe just to jam a little and bear to listen to the music. But I always see people who end up getting healed from me, which is xp the group didn't get.

i have two main characters my dancer on intrepid, and my swordsman on wanderhome, i'm getting bored with killing things, it's getting old, because when you can run up to a makloc plains walker with 35k hams and solo the thing, or have killed pretty much every different type of rancor alone, or have gone kimogilla hunting alone, what much else can you do for a combat class? so i play my dancer, and have been trying to find a cantina to dance and talk to people in. and it's either dead, or full of afk zombies. and when you do find entertainers that are at the keyboard they are having the same problems. or the cantina thathas entertainers that are talking,fills up with annoying immature people that are spamming, or being rude, and such, and making it hard to talk unless in tells, or group chat. or the city that you normally frequent becomes a dead city and nobody comes through unless it is the monthly, hunting party passing through. but i digress combat has become boring, and dancing is being taken over by holocron entertainers, and people that just are afk because they have nothing better to do untill they reach master or whatever reasons they have for being afk for hours at a time.

to avoid taking the healing xp, i do not dance in the front of the cantina. there is such a sea of afk'ers anyway i usually dance in the back, or one of the rooms to the side, to avoid "stealing" the xp from the other entertainers. it is very important, especially for newbie entertainers who dont know the ropes, to have a spot in the main group...far more important than for me to have one. if there is room, then i am of course all for dancing with the main group, it is fun. however, there usually isnt any room to spare.

"After that little spat, XP was sacrificed even if slots were open to not include career dancers."

I see. Two career dancers are rude so naturally all career dancers should be banned from the group. Aren't generalizations fun?

"Ive seen less vindictive and spiteful people, on the both sides of the entertainer debate, in the PvP world."

Well, that's certainly an interesting opinion. From what I've seen of the other forums, the people here, argumentative though they may be, with a few exceptions are comparatively mature and well spoken individuals. And these people have FAR more of an axe to grind than someone who gets killed in PvP. These people had their entire profession ruined.

- J

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picklesSW wrote:
The other entertainers are what made the cantinas fun to be in because they became your friends, you got to know them, had conversations every day, had fun with them because they were there for long stretches and were your peers. The customers are not AFK, the other entertainers are.

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Nail hit directly on head. Exactly.

If you are a socializer, it is not fun to wait around for an hour to socialize for ten minutes. You want to socialize all the time. The best way to do that is with other entertainers. If they are all AFK, you can't socialize at all.

Combat-lovers consider non-combat time to be "down time" and want to minimize it. I understand this. Why is it that they can't understand that to a socializer, sitting waiting for customers or others to come in and socialize with us is also down time, and we want to minimize that? And by having the cantina full of a sewer of AFKers and nobody to talk to, that's what gets forced on us -- perpetual down time.

How, exactly, is playing to an empty cantina supposed to be fun for a socializer? Remind me, because I keep forgetting.

C

2 sides to this problem....

First, peoples play styles.. For me, combat, I like to kill things, the bigger, the tougher, the more impossible bring it on. I live for it. I dispise having to sit in a cantina for 5-10 mins, it's a waste of my time. the time I'm sitting, listening (Watching) people swoon over new outfits, and /lick /pat /kiss /wink is pointless, boring, and un-needed in *MY* play style.

I bought this game, cause the idea of becoming a jedi, and dealing with bounty hunters, taking part in the GCW, hiding from people, the whole sha-bang is in my opnion FUN as hell. And the idea seems wonderful.

My my whole point is, A lot of use are forced into a profession we don't want to play (people argue, then don't do it! [Well sorry, but it's either do this, or not get to the stage I want to be at]). Now I agree all the idiots spamming heal me (I've seen permanant dancers do it also, so don't say it's not real dancers), or begging for tips, I've seen peopel doing this since day 1.

Sure I'm pissed as all hell with the holo chasers and how some of them act, But how do you expect the decent % of use to master this? Sure, I can dance in my house so no one ever see's me, and I don't steal your pretty little cantina, but how do you expect us to get 400k of EH xp?

I'm not complaing, or pointing fingers at anyone, you know people who want to socailize, and dance, play instruments, cool. I'm glad you guys have something that allows you to do that.

My problem comes, from you walk into a cantina, ask to get in a group, get told it's full, you request they boot someone, who the person refuses to (I would also), and you get all hissy and drop your profession and come and post a huge whine that it's so unfair. How is that helping? The entertainers in our guild have stopped going to cantina are started using our player cities cantina. They have no shortage of people to socialize with. They go to different worlds, they have a blast. But just because you got told no, bye a group suddenly this travesty has to stop. Please, your not that important. Why didn't you just start your own group, of real entertainers. If it is your profession I would think no matter what you'd muddle through it. And don't say I have no idea what I'm talking about. I've watch all my profs on both my characters get ransacked again and a gain by exploiters, nerf callers, whiners, and the holo.

Faellyn, your husband owns a city, setup a cantina for him. throw parties.

Anyway, flame on. I'm sure i'll get tons of "OMG you killed kenny!!!" replies.

Also, I've done a lot of professions, I've enjoyed. But, I have a rule,

A) don't sell what I make, leave that to the real crafters, I don't want to pollute there market
B) Don't ask for tips, let people tip the real musicians and dancers, they earned it.
C) I'm quiet in entertainer groups, because honestly in every group I've been in, even with conversations going. I've had nothing to say, or could careless about who kissed who, and who's getting married.

I admire you Chessack. I'm not going to bother trying anymore. But hey, if you succeed on getting a combat player to actually realize you have a valid point, maybe your next task can be to explain 'blue' to a person who has been blind since birth!

meeuki, shouldn't you be back on the bounty hunter boards complaining about the nonfunctionality of BH droids? With all your board hopping, one would think your bridge gets jealous...

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Broog wrote:

I admit that the power-gaming community is a small % of the total population, but its probably larger than the role-playing population. - Broog

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Ummm.... then please explain to me who all those others are, if they're neither power-gamers or role-players.

Didn't they bill SWG as the game that was going to attract a larger audience, rather than the same ol' group ofonline players that migrate from game to game? Yes, Broog. I DO believe that the long-term future of SWG lies in the socializers and role-players.

Faellyn is mostly upset she's not the center of attention anymore, with 30 people all cooing over her dancing in her flesh wrap.

As for enjoying professions, I've enjoyed most professions I've played so far (minus all the entertainer)

huh someone deleted my flame post? it was in jest.....

easy fix... dont goto coronet, duh...

almost every other cantina in the game is nearly empty

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Lorelli wrote:

easy fix... dont goto coronet, duh...

almost every other cantina in the game is nearly empty

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Yeah, we know the other cantinas are empty. Did you even read the thread? An empty cantina is about as fun as a nightclub without a soul in it. If I wanted solitude I wouldn't have decided to be an entertainer.

- J