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Thread: Our Dancer Issues for the Devs

LevaOripa
Wed Apr 28, 2004 6:33 am
#27

As a wish id like to see something dense based placed into master class that would actually help keep me alive when i go hunting or doing FP missions with the boys


We spend more time and endure a lot more than someone leveling fencer and we are just as athletic as they are so it would reason a master dancer could be very hard to hit if he/she also had a combat profession too so some kind of defense based system that would enhance our combat professions defenses by 50% would be believable and would help us actually not be a liability when we join a group for out of cantina activities.


Some dancers and entertainers actually play the other aspect of the game too and its too difficult to not be a group liability when we use so many points in mastering dancer.


Leva Oripa

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LevaOripa
Wed Apr 28, 2004 6:43 am
#28

on the holo recordings to sell here is a important issue i have with that


make them craftable in this way so REAL live people do it


youentertain in a cantina for the pescribed time then have to run over to the theater /opera to a terminal to retrieve the disc/craft it whatever


that way these cant be massed produced and will be VALUABLE



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Niza
Wed Apr 28, 2004 6:58 am
#29

I'd like for dancers and musicians to be able to craft an item (the current Vid screen artwork would work) that lets us craft master level dance/musician buffs (call them "How to dance by *master dancer who crafted*") that would let non masters give Master level buffs. Minimum requirement for use would be novice musician/dancer. This way a master could sell an item and also a novice dancer could get another role aside from mind healer which all too often is being taken by the many AFK bots on the servers.



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CassieDancer
Wed Apr 28, 2004 8:13 am
#30

I have to agree with Sultrina nearly across the board. I would actually take it one step further and say that Entertainers/Musicians shouldn't be able to craft anything as well. There are an awful lot of great guitar/piano/whatever players out there that couldn't make their instrument to save their soul. On the other hand, I think there should be a branch in Artisan for entertainment items. If an Entertainer of any sort wants to craft their own stuff, they can learn the appropriate Artisan skills.


I'm not sure I like the idea of the Holo recordings. It just seems like another opportunity for an exploit that takes away from a live performer's customers. I spend a lot of time with hunting parties on Dathomir. I don't have any combat skills to speak of, but I survive ok. And I perform a useful service for them by dancing in camps while we are out in the bush to heal mind wounds and buff,and then being available to heal BF when the group heads back to the outpost for more missions. I'd hate to be replaced in that situation by a simple Hologram.


- Cassie, Dance Hall Girl





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Anjh
Wed Apr 28, 2004 11:18 am
#31

I like the list of concerns, well done. Hee's another thought about buffing.


How about a buff system revamp so that there is a short-duration, legal, planned, artistically considered buff method? Like a one minute buildup to a 30-second mesmerizing spin (dance) or 30-second horn flourish (music) so that our customers get a buff convenient enough to be a good food alternative, and we get to actually perform in an appealing way to apply it quickly?


And it would be really great if there were no /slash command for it so you had to be atk to do it.





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Wooly981
Thu Apr 29, 2004 4:24 am
#32

I have been a Master Dancer/TKM since the game opened and now I have finally had enough. Dancers can no longer heal their own battle fatigue. A stealth nerf on Dancers? I had to stop dancing and listen/watch someone else to heal my battle fatigue. That's thelast straw. My friends told me to drop dancera long time ago, and now I'm finally convinced.


--Sultin



Panthu
Thu Apr 29, 2004 5:55 am
#33






Wooly981 wrote:

Dancers can no longer heal their own battle fatigue. A stealth nerf on Dancers? I had to stop dancing and listen/watch someone else to heal my battle fatigue.




No, this is a flakey bug. I'm having a hard time recreating it. Sometimes I have to start/stop a few times to kick it in. Silly who is in combat more than I am has a really hard time with it getting hung. It's just a bug, not a stealth nerf. Also not new... I do agree it's annoying.


Try leaving your group and start/stopping if it happens again. I'll post a new thread about it in the Correspondent forum too, the 15 sec delay after a stop now might be compounding this more.






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Esharra
Thu Apr 29, 2004 8:47 am
#34

Panthu,


Is there a known issue with /bandflo? I found that I had turned it off at some time in the past. After turning it on I was able to successfully /bandflo once. Since that time, I've tried toggling it several times and not been able to /bandflo. Regardless of whether I call the /bandflo or another group member does, my character does not flourish. Others in the group flourish, even when I call it. I left a post regarding this and received a reply that /bandflo has been having problems for a while. I've not found any reference to this elsewhere (although I've not had the time to go far back in thread history).Has this been reported to the devs?If so, have theyresponded to notification of it?


I had one buff fail yesterday. The first time I tried to buff a friend after the patch, the first buff didn't take. The second time..everything done the same as the first..he was buffed fullyfor 2 hours. At the time, he and I were the only ones in the cantina so I know he wasn't watching a musician. It was an active buff. He mentioned that entertainers in his PA were telling him on TS that they were having problems too. I didn't ask for details. Later in the day I successful buffed my hunting party in camp, passive buff. Is something broken here?


Thanks for your feedback,





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Panthu
Thu Apr 29, 2004 6:31 pm
#35






Esharra wrote:

Panthu,


Is there a known issue with /bandflo? I found that I had turned it off at some time in the past. After turning it on I was able to successfully /bandflo once. Since that time, I've tried toggling it several times and not been able to /bandflo. Regardless of whether I call the /bandflo or another group member does, my character does not flourish. Others in the group flourish, even when I call it. I left a post regarding this and received a reply that /bandflo has been having problems for a while. I've not found any reference to this elsewhere (although I've not had the time to go far back in thread history).Has this been reported to the devs?If so, have theyresponded to notification of it?





Yes, I know there are problems with bandflos not animating. I did see your thread and I have gotten in game reports.I am having a hard time getting consistent results though, like the self watch, it's a sneaky weird bug. I have reported both. I have not gotten a response yet. I just asked Tiaga if he had ever gotten a private response. It is possible the last patch created some more problems with both of these.


On your side, please do a bug report in game whenever you see this or any other Dancer bug.




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Drygo
Thu Apr 29, 2004 9:54 pm
#36






CassieDancer wrote:

I have to agree with Sultrina nearly across the board. I would actually take it one step further and say that Entertainers/Musicians shouldn't be able to craft anything as well. There are an awful lot of great guitar/piano/whatever players out there that couldn't make their instrument to save their soul. On the other hand, I think there should be a branch in Artisan for entertainment items. If an Entertainer of any sort wants to craft their own stuff, they can learn the appropriate Artisan skills.


I'm not sure I like the idea of the Holo recordings. It just seems like another opportunity for an exploit that takes away from a live performer's customers. I spend a lot of time with hunting parties on Dathomir. I don't have any combat skills to speak of, but I survive ok. And I perform a useful service for them by dancing in camps while we are out in the bush to heal mind wounds and buff,and then being available to heal BF when the group heads back to the outpost for more missions. I'd hate to be replaced in that situation by a simple Hologram.


- Cassie, Dance Hall Girl








I actually would love to see holo recordings, both for dancers and musicians. However, I do *not* want those holo recordings to heal or provide buffs. Rather, I just want to see them as an extra entertainment tool. Ever since I heard that the musicians were able to record songs on their droids I got excited. But, then I found out that only they could use them. What I would love to see is the musicians able to record songs for sale for entertainment purposes only because I would love to be able to dance to something besides silence when I'm the only one in a cantina. I can see myself using that tool often to provide a better performance, and I can see myself going to the empty cantinas more often because I won't feel so weird just dancing to nothing. At the same token, I think it would be cool if we could record dances for a musician to use when they're performing alone. Have a hologram a la Leia's "you're our only hope" hologram. And, since we're on that subject, I'd personally love to see holo recordings across the board that anybody can use to record messages and leave them for their friends. That would just be pretty neat, in my opinion. Even musicians and dancers able to record holo performances for an artisan that might want some mood music in their shop, or for a play to use as background music. Again, I wouldn't want any of this to be able to used for healings. But, I think it would be a cool extra source of income for us to be able to sell our holo recordings for pure entertainment purposes.



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Wooly981
Fri Apr 30, 2004 4:35 am
#37

Thank you for that. Hmm. Pondering. How about some decent dancer missions from the entertainer terminal? A masterTKA can make 20k in 15 minutes destroying two Fambaa lairs on Naboo. The risk is minimal. I know because I am a TKM/Master Dancer. How about they give dancers a few 10k missions? Take a flight to Kaadara, perform for a party for 15 minutes, and collect 10k? The master TKA collects meat, bone, hide and also gets well paid. Why must we be poor? Well, enough of that. As a TKM I can collect all the money that I need doing combat jobs. I was just after a little change.


--Sultin



Kalia
Sun May 02, 2004 6:55 am
#38


"Denial of service enchantments: The only change I support here is removing the command from the game entirely."


If that's your opinion, then you are obviously missing the entire point of this game and it's place in the SW timeline. Involved yourself in the GCW and then decide whether or not the /denyservice command needs improvements. The fact that I have to individually type in the name of each member of the opposing faction that I happen to fight against, or see people in my group fighting against , is extremely annoying. After a round of PvP when the group heads to the Cantina to heal up I spend more time adding /denyservice names than I do getting coordinated with my group for the next round of combat.




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Sultrina
Sun May 02, 2004 2:22 pm
#39

It is my opinion and it hasn't changed since they added the command, it never will.
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