Dancer Archive

Thread: Test server changes!

Twinkles_Centauri
Fri Sep 26, 2003 12:00 am
#27

does the dancer benefit from the mind buff as well? or must she/he watch another dancer? i known they can heal their on BF, but what about buffing mind?



Esharra
Fri Sep 26, 2003 12:04 am
#28

Yaaaa!!! Thank you devs for improvements to the mind buff!



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Morwen
Fri Sep 26, 2003 12:20 am
#29

/bounce happily!

picklesSW
Fri Sep 26, 2003 3:52 am
#30

Chefs need love, we all know that. Fact is, we've been buffing minds since release, this is only enhancing what we can do. One would think you could be happy on our behalf for finally getting some changes that might give our profession some respect, but the amount of whining I'm seeing from chefs is alarming.

Chefs can buff each and every stat. Hopefully those buffs will be given some attention and made stronger and longer. They stack with entertainer buffs and doctor buffs. In no way do our professions compete. Believe me, we want chefs to get an upgrade too, but trolling on the dancer boards and trying to get our latest enhancement revoked isn't going to earn you any affection here, and certainly isn't going to magically fix your profession. You are very short sighted, sir.

- J




Kristania
Fri Sep 26, 2003 3:56 am
#31

Does the mind buff work in camps too? May have already been addressed , sorry if it has, only on my first cup of coffee lol.



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Arkaye
Fri Sep 26, 2003 4:40 am
#32

Oh wow, I'll be able to show off my chest even more now...



Hoorah!




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Zerine
Fri Sep 26, 2003 4:45 am
#33

Wow!



A buff that's comparable to the Doctor buffs and it's Targetted!



In one patch seems the Devs have made Entertainers increasing more useful to other players AND made active Entertainers (not those awful LAMErs) something other players will seek out!



Well done!


Sinda
Fri Sep 26, 2003 7:31 am
#34






Kristania wrote:
Does the mind buff work in camps too? May have already been addressed , sorry if it has, only on my first cup of coffee lol.




Yes, the mind buff works in camp. We can also heal mind wounds in camp, just not BF.


One of my closest friends is a new chef. Chefs are the most underappreciated class in SWG, and i do think it's time they got some major loving -- if nothing else, just to draw attention to what they can do. I never go to a gig or a hunt without my chef foods and Tatooine Sunburns If dancers and musicians can't be on the battlefield, chef food fits in your pocket. And it stacks with our buffs. Win/win!






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Beery
Fri Sep 26, 2003 8:42 am
#35

"I can't see how anyone would take the buff and run, just make sure you get the credits you want be fore you target them."


I'm not going to demand payment for a buff. That's just not how I operate. If the profession is to work on tips, there should be game mechanics in place that encourage people to tip. This change doesn't include any suchencouragements andis, in my view, doomed to be abused. I fear it will all end in manyentertainers refusing to give buffs (unless they know the recipient), and even more animosity between entertainers and the combat classes.




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picklesSW
Fri Sep 26, 2003 8:58 am
#36

While I agree that certain services we offer such as healing should be a byproduct of the performance itself, I see no problem with people who want that nice buff offering to pay for it. It's not something we owe anyone, especially if we need to take an overt action to give it. They already pay handsomely for doctor buffs for the other stats, why should the mind buff be any different?

In this case, I would let each entertainer decide how they wish to operate should it come to pass. While I would be judgemental on people who use /denyservice to get tips, entertainers who want money to offer a valuable mind buff are not being unreasonable in my book.

Personally, I don't think I'd charge up front, but I won't blame those who do.

- J




Beery
Fri Sep 26, 2003 9:37 am
#37

If the patron offers to pay for it, and offers a price, I'll take it, but if someone comes in and asks for a mind buff without offering to pay, I'm not gonna turn around and say "okay, that'll be 100 credits". The customers are just gonna think "well it doesn't cost her anything to give it, so why should I pay?". This is the current attitude of the combat classes towards entertainers - why should yet another service we give that costs us nothing in terms of $$ be any differently regarded?


In my opinionthis feature isjust anotherinvitation for players to be even moreresentful towards entertainers. Our customers simply don't count time spent learning our craft to be valuable. Until their attitude changes, or until we have ongoing outlays for replacing worn-out clothes, or some other monetary expense, the attitude of the combat classes towards us will not change, andour professionwill be resented.




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Since June 2004, running one of the game's first completely nonviolent characters. Testing the limits of non-combat MMORPG play and trying to have fun into the bargain (although the developers make it difficult).

Combat is no longer compulsory.
Beery
Fri Sep 26, 2003 9:47 am
#38

By the way, I'm not saying I'm against trying this feature in the game. I just fear it will be a mixed blessing at best.



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Since June 2004, running one of the game's first completely nonviolent characters. Testing the limits of non-combat MMORPG play and trying to have fun into the bargain (although the developers make it difficult).

Combat is no longer compulsory.
picklesSW
Fri Sep 26, 2003 9:53 am
#39

I agree with you Beery, I also will not ask an up-front cost for anything my dancing provides. But that's a personal preference, and I won't begrudge other dancers from trying to make extra cash. Lord knows, few enough people tip as it is.

Will this make us even more despised? I hope not. From my point of view, I have a hard time imagining things getting worse than they already are.

A question does arise in my mind, however. If the buff is changed to only apply to our target, and we can only target one person, and it takes a bit of time to apply the buff...might we not see people bidding for an entertainer's attention to get that buff? It might not cost us resources, but it costs us our time, and if we can only buff one person at a time, our time is very valuable.

- J




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