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Kuildeous

Mon Feb 16, 2004 4:06 pm

DedMnWlking wrote:

The Devs seeing that one of their non-combat classes was failing decided to give them a little help and write in mind buffs. Now this was something that would draw alot of people to the class, back to the class, and back to the keyboard...after all you need to flourish for 8 minutes straight in order to properly apply the buff (well maybe 8 minutes...more on this in a minute)

Wow, quite the rant. But it is heartfelt and pretty accurate.

I do want to point out one slight inaccuracy: We've always had mind buffs. We just didn't know about it until shortly before it was fixed.

But those buffs were hardly worth it. The percent increase was half of your skill mod (only 50% for Master Dancer) and lasted only twice as long as the patron watched--with a maximum duration of 30 minutes, to boot.

You are right that things seemed to explode for the Entertainers when the buffs were improved. Now, the buff is equal to your skill mod. And at worst, the buff lasts 10 to 12 times as long as the watch time (but if you can get that 3.5-minute grind for 2 hours, then it's very nice).

Otherwise, I see nothing wrong with the rant. I just had to point that out, because it's easy to forget that forgettable buff in the early days.

RIP: Tasha Jalul - Radiant
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Still cares enough to interject an opinion, though.

SrinKnorei

Mon Feb 16, 2004 4:32 pm

#28

usually i dont get all high strung about things, 'm rather laid back and casual, even laugh at these sorts of things, but the original post that spawned this thread is pathetic.

how depressing. ravenmist and others members of this community try to make sure our profession becomes more useful over time, and it seems this loser wants to completely set us back. pathetic.

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Sawgil

Tue Feb 17, 2004 1:49 am

#29

As a holo-grinding Entertainer at the moment, I agree the problem with all the AFK entertainers is mostly the holo-grinders. This problem should largely go away with the advent of the new Jedi system (supposedly in release 7).Many of the cantinas will probably be empty after that (and I suppose the complaint will be that no one can find an Entertainer). As for the buffs not lasting very long, that is hardly the fault of Entertainers, that is the way the developers designed it, complain to them if you have a problem. And the way to balance supply and demand is to pay a high enough price to make it worth while to an Entertainer to do the buff. If you think the going price is too high, then do without the buff. Entertainers (like everyone else) have their own reasons for playing the game and choosing the profession that gives them the most fun, if they don't feel like doing buffs, so be it. Get some fishak and muon for the times you can't get buffed.

DedMnWlking

Tue Feb 17, 2004 1:57 am

#30

Ok, I just couldn't stay quiet about this. Entertainers were started in this game as a Role Playing class. The ONLY role they had was to heal the mind. And because of that we would Role Play and have alot of fun. Entertainers were all at their keyboards and fourishes and light shows were common. Then there was the class upgrades......Boom. Lost some Entertainers to the class of the month. (IE what ever class just got new toys to play with). With the sudden drop in Entertainers there were fewer people to Role Play with.

Second hit came when Death wounds started. You saw a HUGE increase in entertainers so they can heal mind wounds. But were these our Old Friends people we could role play once again with? Nay, They were POWER GAMERS who didn't give a rats patooty about Role Playing they just wanted to get as high as they could in the class without having to drop any of their precious combat skills and while they were at it didn't want to do any work either (enter the beginning of the era of the AFK dancer).

With the decrease in actual entertainers and the increase in the AFK dancers people didn't immediatly understand the impact this would have on the class. Combat persons would come in and watch/listen to the first entertainer they saw, go grab something to drink/eat, come back, thank them, tip them, and be on their way. Not knowing that this AFKer didn't really desreve the tip OR the healing exp.

This impacted the entertainer that WAS at his/her keyboard. They start to question WHY? Why do I put myself through this? Why do I sit at my keyboard if I am not making a difference. BOOM.....more entertainers either left the profession or started to AFK themselves.

The Devs seeing that one of their non-combat classes was failing decided to give them a little help and write in mind buffs. Now this was something that would draw alot of people to the class, back to the class, and back to the keyboard...after all you need to flourish for 8 minutes straight in order to properly apply the buff (well maybe 8 minutes...more on this in a minute)

Now did it bring more people to the profession.....HECK YEA. A growth spurt in entertainers everywhere.... Did it bring people back to the keyboards? Heck yea....everyone came back to their keyboards.......just long enough to learn how the buff works and to modify their macros to accomidate their new skill. And what of the new dancers/musicians that joined the ranks? They are just here to get ranks in order to buff.....so they are afk as well.

Next big deal was Player Cities.....YAY!!!! BOOO!!!! Everyone wanted to have their own cantinas....WHY??? To get away from the AFKers of course. Before Player Cities I knew of about a dozen guildhalls that were setup to be cantinas. They were put down by entertainers and were used as a private cantinas. Now with Player Cities and the close release of Player Cantinas they didn't have to waste a guild hall for doing it but can actually own their OWN cantina. So why the BOO?? Because it took all of the Role Players that were left dancing in NPC cities away. Which in turn left only, the people who don't live in player cities, people who were looking to get exp to level in their entertaining profession, people who were looking for training, or more importantly THE AFK DANCER/MUSICIAN in the NPC cantinas.

The final straw that broke the back of the role playing entertainer was October 2003. Holocrons ruined the profession beyond repair. Most people got an entertainer profession of some sort as a Holo class. The game then EXPLODED with afk entertainers trying to reach their goals not giving a rats rear about buffs, or credits, or role playing. They are there for 1 thing and 1 thing only....EXP. Give them Master and get out of the awful painful profession known as the entertainer. Well guess what it's isn't awful or painful for someone who actually WANTS to do it. So these people who are holos still complain about it, but they are the same people who are AFK 90% of the time. I don't understand how because you cannot master a class in 1 day it makes it a bad class? I mean stop being AFK for once and ROLE PLAY.

But AFK dancers/musicians don't hurt anyone!!!! Oh yea? Well, why is it when a friend of mine got to master dancer and she only needed 1/2 the exp to get there then what I need now that I want to Role Play the profession? It is because of the AFK macro grinding dancers. They were leveling too fast. Because they take Novice Medic,and a load of stim Bs then go dance/play in the cantina and macro in their heals so they can do it non-stop while they goto school, goto work, sleep, watch tv, or play with..........sorry emotions getting the best of me. Point is that the Devs didn't want it to be THAT easy to get to Master of any profession and now here I am needing over 1 Million dancing exp a the rate of 18 exp every 8 seconds which is only 192k a day. That is IF I can stay dancing enough, IF I don't stop, IF I keep flourishing every 8 seconds to get full exp, IF I afk dance while I tend to other things (ie eat, sleep, work, school, etc.)

Dancers and Musicians complained for a very long time against AFK entertainers but so far our response is that it is too hard to tell if they are afk because they are afk or because they needed to run and get something quickly.The adverage AFK entertainerwrites things into their macros so they will not go afk as well. Sit in a populated NPC cantina sometime you will see entertainers without AFK above their head but once in awhile you will see them say the same thing over and over and over again. This will keep them from going AFK and going LD.

So, if you are at your keyboard then why don't you buff me? Frankly, because it is a pain in the rear. First off we have to make sure you are watching us for the whole time. Most people don't understand this concept. Second, we have to make sure we have food/spice on hand because we have to flourish our butts off for 5-8 minutes straight. And it is a guessing game because we don't have a timer OR any other indication that we can stop because the full buff has been applied. Then if we DO mess it up the customer complains that we don't know what we are doing and gets upset and demands a refund. Then we find out 1/2 way through the buff they started to listen to the entertainer next to me because they are either bored, or wanted to hear something other then the cantina noise. Well, guess what?THAT is whatmessed up the buff not I. Then, reading your first post you are saying it's not worth it to begin with because it only lasts for 2 hours and within that time you cannot get in a group and do a ton of missions. Do you complain about the doctors buffs too? Because I haven't seen a doctors buff last longer then about 2.5 hours.

And finally the LAST comment that irked me was "and you will NEVER find a entertainer on a remote planet to heal/buff you". HAHAHHAAH DO you want to know WHY???

#1 Not enough entertainers goto remote planets to make the exp worth me leaving getting 100exp a tick in coronet (remember I need over 1 mil for master) to goto a remote planet and get 29 exp a tick dancing on my own.

#2 I used to goto remote planets to dance thinking i'm going to make a bundle because i'm going to be one of the only entertainers out there so i'll get all the tips. I spend 1200+(i for get exact price) credits to goto Dantooine. Woohoo i'm the only one there. I have about 100 credits to my name so it's time to clean house. I dance for all i'm worth and see about 20 people in about an 8 hour time period. I now have a grand total of about 1000 credits to my name. hmm let get this math straight now? I spent over 1200 credits to get here....I am getting 70exp per tick LESS because i'm the only one out here....and 8 hours, 20 people, I made 900 credits? Last time I checked the minimum mission on Dantooine was 1600 and that was for Lesser Bols. So tell me why I should fly to a remote planet again?

"Oh, well you got the exp so you don't need a big tip because you got experience!" This is a statement that I hear ALOT when reminding people that is it nice to tip the entertainer. Hmm, last I checked combat classes get payed (some times LOADS of) credits for running missions. Wait that combat class just got exp for completing their mission why are they getting credits.... Wait..... That Doctor just got loads of exp for giving you that buff why are you still paying him 1-5k for it? But MY buff isn't good enough to get more then 500 credits for? AND YOU ARE A RIFLEMAN!!!!

You know on another server I play a combat class. I pay 30 credits per BF point I get healed and 5 credits for each mind wound point I get healed. Now that might not seem like alot but keep in mind I'm a Master CM and don't care WHO I mind heal when running around. I've been known to run up to a rifleman who is low on mind and do a mind heal then run off. Why do I do this? Because I CAN. I like to help people it's my nature. Sometimes I get a tell saying thank you. Sometimes they are quick enough to say it before I am out of earshot to hear it. Sometimes (rarely but it DOES happen) I get a bank transfer of a small sum as a thank you. My point is this usually means I walk into my favorite cantina with a Black Mind bar andwitha mind that is maxed as a Zabrek this can get quiet expensive to heal but it usually runs me about 10k for a full heal. And yes I tip 10k.

I am not saying that you are like this. I am not looking to get flamed. I am not looking for a response. I am simply trying to explain WHY some entertainers will not give you the time of day or why there is such a large amount of afk entertainers.

Message Edited by DedMnWlking on 02-16-2004 05:46 PM

Message Edited by DedMnWlking on 02-16-2004 05:48 PM

Jasynn

Tue Feb 17, 2004 4:14 am

#31

PLEASE! Pathetic? I don't think so.

All you have to do is read the last few posts on this page to see the prob. By their own admission, these Ent's "Ignore buff requests", qualify requests or simply refuse. Most people are pisssed off to begin with at the crap they go through to get a buff and here these guys are adding fuel to the fire then using the created hostility and apathy to justify their actions.

Setting back your profession? Hah! You guys are doing that perfectly all by yourselves! [the rare good Ent's being the exceptions].

Won't go to distant planets to heal because you only see a few people and it isn't worth your time, money or the lower xp? Well if you guys stuck it ot long enough for people to get used to the idea of regular Ent's in their cantinas, you would find more regular patrons! [like on Dathomir].People aren't there, because they have looked over and over again and have just become used to the lack of Ent's in those places.

As to the evaluations of me and my motives, you have no clue what your talking about. When I find a real Ent,I RP my little heart out. I treat them well and tip even better. I pay for buffs exactly what I charge for my Doc Buffs [even though they last only 2/3 the amount of time]. If I get good RP, then I pay even more. last night I paid a total of 22K for my mind buff!

In short...if you deserve it, I pay it! Unfortunately those who deserve it are few and far between.

When I started this thread I was only irked at the low number of non AFK ent's and the lack of availability of a necessary service. However after reading several of these posts, my ire hase spread toa lot more ent's. You sit and list your reasons for not being available or not wanting to buff. It's nothing more than a power trip. You give it only to a select few. A few of you sound like the biggest elitists in the entire game! If Doctors treated players like many [not all] Ent's do, they would be the targets of all this hostility as well. Fortunately , however, that isn't the case.

For the record. To the one that said that if they see a /shout asking for a buff they don't even assume that the player is in the cantina....you know what they say about assuming don't you? Don't assume, it only makes an A$$ out of U and ME! What the He!! was that about? If someone is asking, why don't you just respond? This is why so many of us have had it with your profession! The good ones are great, but they are in the vast minority.

Get your acts [no pun intended] together!

Jasynn

Tue Feb 17, 2004 4:45 am

#32

BTW: You can call me troll or A$$ or whatever makes you feel better about yourselves, but the fact is that my opinion is not the minority outside your profession. Here are excepts from the doctors forum. Feel free to verify if you don't want to take my word for it. [Various different peoples posts on Doctors forum]

"I agree that doctors should get the mind buffs. I'm not a doctor, but I plan on going for it once I master swordsman, and tka 4-0-0-0. I want to be able to buff myself without having to go to someone. I haven't used any buffs yet (except for moun as last resort). Personally, I think entertainers should have nothing to do with healing and buffing the mind, or anyting in that area. The only thing they should be doing is lowering fatigue. Better yet, why not just let mind wounds, and fatigue heal automatically when a player walks inside the cantina? All healingshould be doneby adoctor. All buffs should be done by Doctors, Chefs and Smugglers.I don't even know why there is an entertainer profession in the game period.Ithink it's totally useless. I don't understand the logic of having an entertainer healing someones wounds or buffing there minds. Besides, whenever you go inside the catinas, it's usually the same thing. A bunch of mostly afk dancers at the front of the cantinas with everyone else crowding around them. "

"not to put a shoe in this thead, but im a masterdoctor with chef 0034, im make good mind buffs. no bio goods added +428 to all stats, for 45 mins, with bio goods u can be over 800 to all mind stats, so just grab a couple of chef skills and you can do this fine. the buffs im making right now are actually 214, but filling is 49, so u take 2 at a time. and i dont need to stop and pull out a droid to use em. just click the button while on my speed when im ready, and instant buff for the mind."

I'm working doctor right now, ALMOST master, and working fencer too while I'm at it. I have my secondaries maxed, my health & action at minimum, and my mind at 1300, for this one simple fact: NOBODY gives mind buffs anymore. There's either a 4 person line (I'm not waiting 50 minutes for my buffs to come up) or everyone's AFK. I'm lucky enough to be friends with a master dancer who'll mindbuff me whenever she's available, but I hate to bother her. Why shouuld she stop her mission, wait for me, wait for the buff, and ruin her night? She's paying to enjoy this game too, you know? Frankly, I think the new bio foods are a godsend, and I'm ready to buy a crate (or 10)as soon as I see them available."

"Yeah, I allowed myself some wishful thinking there.Like I said though, I do hope what you're saying about stims and mind damage comes to be. That alone would satisfy me. "

"I have NEVER seen an ent offering mind buffs..
and every man down I bring back up in the field is because of their mind ..grrr.
The hubby and I were just discussing this the other night. I think we should be able to buff the mind, too. If the profession that has the ability isn't going to make use of it, give it here, I say."

"Zarlor, I hope you're right about the combat revamp. I'd like to see this as part of an "elite-elite" profession, 2 branches, 1 crafting for the schematics and 1 med xp that grants the commands and useage bonuses that would be a part of this. Call it psychologist, prerequisite would be Master Doc. Novice psychologist gets /healmind and you'd see mind-related woundpacks and buff packs. Probably won't happen though because then why have entertainers? "

"No there should be a new profession out of master medic and its called psychiatric (not sure if its spelled like that in english) but this character could buff your mind after a session of one hour. Listening the all the complaint, effectively taking away all the negative tought of your toon, and pumping you with great ideas to conquer the world and boosting your ego that your invincible."

"Get a 2nd acc and get it to Mstr Musician like me on my 2nd PC problem solved"

"It will never, ever, ever happen... Mind Bar wounds and performance buffs are theirs and theirs alone. Although I too thought the very same thing tonight after getting some really nice Doc Buffs then spending time searching for a non-AFKer to provide a Performance buff, which I never found"

For the record, there were oppossing opinions on the subject. However, they were not in support of Ent's really, more just against the changing of things. People in professions other than Doc are saying the same things about the Ent's and mind buff problem. If you think that the solution is flaming me, then have at it.

Tiaga

Tue Feb 17, 2004 5:08 am

#33

The complaint I see there is that they don't like all the AFK entertainers since they can't find a mind buff.

I wonder if these are the same people that want a heal bot in every cantina.

Guess what, you wanted all those AFK entertainers so you could be healed anywhere you go.. You got them. Now suck it up and deal with the consequences. You want buffs, support ATK entertainers.

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Leonae

Tue Feb 17, 2004 6:31 am

#34

I am available for mind buffs, have my master tag showing, and am dancing regularily in the same cantina. However I rarely get asked for a mind buff. Only people to ask me are PvPers needing a buff. I like that, though - I can concentrate on roleplaying, and don't have to spam flourishes all the time.

As far as waiting in line... you only need 3.5 minutes to get a full directed buff, and last I heard, 5 minutes for a group passive buff, so time is not the problem.

DedMnWlking

Tue Feb 17, 2004 11:35 am

#35

Jasynn wrote:

Won't go to distant planets to heal because you only see a few people and it isn't worth your time, money or the lower xp? Well if you guys stuck it ot long enough for people to get used to the idea of regular Ent's in their cantinas, you would find more regular patrons! [like on Dathomir].People aren't there, because they have looked over and over again and have just become used to the lack of Ent's in those places.

So what you are telling me is that I have to go to this planet day after day for a few weeks in HOPES that someone will know i'm there? PAAALEASE I was there for a week. that day I had 8 people that was my busiest day. AND I was registered at the location. It's not like anyone ever checks that either.

As for the rest of yourrant

Read my last sentence: "I am not saying that you are like this." You are taking it too personally. I don't know who you are I'm just telling you that most people out there don't give a crap about entertianers.

You sound like one of those few VERY few that at least aknowledge that we are providing a service. How about instead of bashing the Entertainers you start Bashing everyone else who don't give a rats butt is what we are doing.

I'm sorry that you feel that you are being ignored but most entertainers out there but if there were more people who RPed and tipped as well as you perhaps there would be more entertainers willing to buff and RP back with you.

YoursTruly

Tue Feb 17, 2004 11:58 am

#36

Jasynn wrote:

I really posted this in hopes that it may shock the Ent community into taking the game seriously and acting more like the Doc's do. I am disappointed at the lack of flames at me over such a provoking post. Apathy seems the order of the profession.

I'm sorry for my bluntness, but I am frustrated.

((You said this, and call us apathetic, and then are mad because we call you a troll? That seems... odd. So you wanted flames, but aren't a troll?

If you had looked at the entertainer forums even a little, you would have seen this is an issue that already concerns many of us. Your post didn't open up our eyes to something we hadn't noticed. You just opened up a sore spot that most of us are tired of discussing - again.

You stop to RP with entertainers you see on remote worlds? You tip them 22k for a buff? That's great, but...most people aren't like you. They run in, watch, don't say a word, don't tip, and leave. Or even if they do, they tip up to 1000, which is fine just for healing, except that there are two of them every hour or so? Do you really think it is exciting for a ATK entertainer to stay in a tiny unused outpost cantina for an hour with very very few people to talk to and make 2k for all the trouble? 2k didn't pay for my starliner fare yet, and I have barely any RP to justify my time there. I can get a lot more RP travelling and entertaining on the core worlds, and more RP and money if I leave the outpost, pick up my pistols, and go on missions with my friends. You would have a point if more people acted like you do. I am telling you as someone who has tried that they don't.

Why are you trying to stir things up here? The people who care already know, and a troll post isn't going to make the people who don't care suddenly start caring. From my point of view, maybe your energies would be better spent arguing constructively (not trolling like this) to the more combat oriented people to appreciate entertainers more, talk to us more, and remember that on a remote world, the ticket prices were high, and not many people come through those outposts.

If you are wanting me to lose money to come to a distant world where I won't make up the cost of my ticket, and get to wait by myself and be bored with no one to talk to, you are going to walk away disappointed.

It's good that you care about this, and it is great that you tip well and RP with entertainers. Spending your energy trolling wastes your efforts, unfortunately.))

Rikasee - Rodian master dancer

Kuildeous

Tue Feb 17, 2004 12:51 pm

#37

Jasynn wrote:

All you have to do is read the last few posts on this page to see the prob. By their own admission, these Ent's "Ignore buff requests", qualify requests or simply refuse. Most people are pisssed off to begin with at the crap they go through to get a buff and here these guys are adding fuel to the fire then using the created hostility and apathy to justify their actions.

You make it sound like everyone is entitled to a buff whenever they want one. Dancers are like the other professions--they can be busy too.

Now I cannot speak for those who patently ignore those who ask for buffs. They have their reasons. Offhand, I can think of several reasons for a Dancer to not buff on request. Not all of these apply to me, but a few have at some point:

The Dancer plans to leave the cantina or log out within 5 minutes.

The Dancer has the patron on /ignore because of a past grievance.

The Dancer did not like the tone of the patron's voice (especially if he says "dance, beeyotch").

The Dancer already has the patron on a /deny list because he's too cheap to tip.

The Dancer already has a buff queue and doesn't plan to add to that.

The Dancer didn't see the request.

The Dancer only buffs those of his/her faction.

The Dancer never learned how.

The Dancer plain doesn't feel like it.

Now maybe you don't consider some of those to be legitimate reasons (especially the last one), but every profession can and has denied service based on at least one of those criteria. The Droid Engineer doesn't feel like making a Mouse droid, so you can't persuade him to make you one. The Doctor has a line of seven people waiting for buffs, so you can't get a buff immediately. The Weaponsmith is too busy crafting and doesn't feel like taking orders, so he turns on his AFK. Someone never tipped a Medic, so the Medic doesn't bother healing him again.

In a player-run economy, the players can conduct their business as they see fit. I usually buff my little heart out when I visit a cantina. But if someone says, "yo, buff me," you can bet I'm going to ignore the twit. But someone who asks nicely, "Hey, could I get a buff from you?" you bet that I'll work my damnedest to accommodate him, because politeness can go a long way. If someone doesn't provide a needed service, then the player base needs to figure out how to convince that person to provide that service.

Now, you are not the typical player, it seems. So it truly sucks that you have to suffer because everyone else stiffs the Entertainers. This is where the networking idea comes in. I remember my favorite patrons. If one of those patrons were to /tell me, "Hey, my buddies and I are hunting rancors. Could I convince you into coming to the outpost for some dancing?" Then I'd hop on a flight and head on out there. If he's someone who tipped me 22k before, you can bet I won't even haggle a price for that request. Put your favorite Entertainers on your Friends list (since /who doesn't seem to extend to other planets). Need a buff? Send a request.

Not everyone can find composite armor at a moment's notice, but if someone knows a reputable Armorsmith, then you can get that armor pretty quickly. Same thing with buffs.

RIP: Tasha Jalul - Radiant
Love Star Wars, but the few role-players I could find on the servers were outnumbered by powergamers who wanted only l337 l00t and mad skillz. I can't justify paying $15 a month to play a game by myself.
Still cares enough to interject an opinion, though.

Jasynn

Tue Feb 17, 2004 3:39 pm

#38

Kuildeous wrote:

"Now maybe you don't consider some of those to be legitimate reasons "

Actually, I do consider all of those to be good reasons. The problem is that if those reasons were being used legitimately, then they would occur within a statistical bell curve of number of times that a player makes a request for a buff. However, the % of denials to actuall requests [if you read the boards or ask around] is way beyond a normal curve. That's what's upsetting so many people.

"In a player-run economy, the players can conduct their business as they see fit."

Yes, that is totally true. I wouldn't have it any other way. However, that doesn't make the manner they choose to run their business in the right one. Also I, like any other consumer, have a right to complain and yell about how much I think the manner SUX. It's a free galaxy after all.

Many Ent's seem to mis the point that when people are screaming about something...them there is usually some kind of problem. Since you brought up business...Real businesses respond with something called public relations or customer service. They don't flame them for being unhappy [well, except for hospitals]. They realize that their income derives from making people happy. Here, in SWG,the solution seems to be... "To bad! We don't like it either! Not sit down and $TFU!" You can see where this may irk the general public.

"Not everyone can find composite armor at a moment's notice, but if someone knows a reputable Armorsmith, then you can get that armor pretty quickly. Same thing with buffs."

Not true. If I know a GOOD armorsmith, then I know that unless he just hade a fire sale, he probably has a good amount of stock on his vendor. My purchase isn't usually dependent on personal interaction of RL time schedules.

Breestan

Tue Feb 17, 2004 7:18 pm

#39

YEAH, I admitted that I ignored buff requests such as they are. But did you not read the reasons?

Those could hardly be called malicious ignoring. I thought we were talking about MALICIOUS ignoring. I, however, do not maliciously ignore requests. I 'ignore' (i.e Do Not reply to) requests that I do not see, or do not take to be requests for my services!

Could a tailor know to answer a request that sounds like this?

"I need something made!" "I Need Something Made!!!!!!"

-.- Gee. So vague. Like.... "I NEED BUFFS!" That SO tells us what they need.

Didn't I break it down? (And several others) We do not maliciously ignore anything.

We miss them.

Or do not see that they are directed at us.

...perhaps they are /add ignored a while back.

... perhaps they were rude (Dance Beeyotch, etc)

But none of these are malicious, as you would like to see.

I posted to try and offer an explanation to you, and the other entertainers of something I have seen.

But now I understand something. You did not post for constructive conversation. (Of course later you said that you wanted flames...) If you did not post for constructve conversation then you did not post to learn. Which means that not a single one of these posts will do any good.

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