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Thread: Y A POLL: Skill Point Pools

Allia_Rain
Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:58 am
#27

Well seeming with a level system for combat it is now impossible to mix being good at combat with being a crafter or an entertainer I vote for option 3.


Or they could just let everyone have two toons per server, would be easier for them to do then split the skill point pools too.






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Dariane_Kamutsovy
Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:11 am
#28

To be honest, I don't like either one of these.


I think one of the issues that made SWG is also unique is the ability to have seperate xp pools...


So you can't use "CRAFTING xp (non combat)" to become an Entertainer "ENTERTAINER xp" (also non-combat).


And that even CRAFTING is divided into subsections (artisan, de, chef and so on) makes it even more challenging. Same for COMBAT.


However I feel something is wrong with the 3 entertainer professions (not ID).


* Entertainer uses Entertainer XP and or Entertainer Healing XP


* Musicain uses Musician XP and Entertainer Healing XP. First one seems right, but the second?


* Dancer uses Dancer XP and Dancer Healing XP. Same comment.


What do we get for musician?


Tree 1: Techniques: inspiration buff + making instruments


Tree 2: Wound healing


Tree 3: Knowledge (songs + insturments)


Tree 4: Healing (bf)



What do we get for dancer?


Tree 1: Techniques: inspiration buff (no difference from musicain)


Tree 2: Wound healing (same comment)


Tree 3: Knowledge: Dances


Tree 4: Healing (bf)


I see too many similarities here...


Instead of generalizing all the XP why not have the dancer/musician become 1 profession: Carbaretier (or something):


Tree 1: Techniques: inspiration buff + instruments


Tree 2: Healing (bf +wound)


Tree 3: Dancing Knowledge: Dances


Tree 4: Musician Knowledge: Songs + instruments


Master: combined both master boxes...


And then use the Entertainer XP/Entertainer Healing XP to fill them


The 2 professions have come too much together in their abilities and options, it has become a ridicilous sp drain.

Message Edited by Dariane_Kamutsovy on 04-28-2005 05:38 PM

Tehoyoda
Thu Apr 28, 2005 9:54 am
#29

NONE OF THE ABOVE!!!!!



HAVEN'T WE BEEN SCREWED ENOUGH?






Teho

- I support bringing back the original combat system You can too

-I support ATK Entertainers I was one AND I STILL do not want the WoW/EQ2 Interface
--Qilue-UCW--
Thu Apr 28, 2005 10:17 am
#30




Esharra wrote:


Which of the following would most closely match your preference?


3. Two skill point pools; one for combat professions and one for non-combat professions.





I don't see why SoE feels the need to force people into one or the other... with 250 Points thereare enough points to have a combat profession, and a Non combat profession, yet still SoE gives bonuses to people who go for all or nothing.. be it More health for having 2 combat professions, ot Faster Inspertaions for Triple Master Entertainers...seens wrong to me






Edit: I just Read this...


Serae wrote:

I think they still need to keep things as diverse as possible whilst remaining fair to both combat and none combat classes.

I'd like to see a system where there are two sets of skill points (so option 3 is my vote) but with a twist.

You have to specialise.

You can either specialise in combat or none combat. This affects how many points you are given per pool.

You have 2 pools, the original 250 for whichever side you specialise in and another pool of say 125 points to keep things neat n tidy.

This would mean that if you choose to specialise in combat you still get some points, albeit less, to do a social or crafting profession just to keep things fresh.

If you specialised in none combat then you could still be a crafter-merchant etc but still have enough skill points to grant you at least a fighting chance whist exploring or maintaining harvestors.


And I really like this Idea, infact just before I read her post I was going to edit my post and add almost the EXACT same thing to my reply

Message Edited by --Qilue-UCW-- on 04-28-2005 10:27 AM



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pervel
Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:11 am
#31
Among those options, I would pick this one:


4. Three skill point pools; one for entertainer professions, one for crafting professions and a third for combat professions.


But I would really prefer if entertainer skills were like Politician and Pilot skills. That is, they should only cost XP.

Panthu
Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:01 pm
#32

Message Edited by Panthu on 05-02-2005 02:38 PM




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Einhinder
Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:06 pm
#33
3~ becasue I liek being able to kick butt in combat and yet still be a master dancer I am a pikeman I have very good pikes and can more than hold my own in combat and i love it I love being able to duel and db morons in the cantina then dance on there corpses. after the cu I wont be able to do that





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NeillM
Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:53 pm
#34




Esharra wrote:


Which of the following would most closely match your preference?


1. One skill point pool for all professions.


2. Two skill point pools; one for entertainer professions and one for all other professions.


3. Two skill point pools; one for combat professions and one for non-combat professions.


4. Three skill point pools; one for entertainer professions, one for crafting professions and a third for combat professions.

Message Edited by Esharra on 04-27-2005 01:18 PM




I will vote for 1 here.




- Neeill Orkaorchi, Elder Entertainer/Elder Musician, Intrepid
- Nai'ren, Trader, Intrepid
- ATK and enjoy your day

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FuschiaD
Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:45 am
#35
After my initial experience with the CU on live last night, I want option 3 (or even 4) more than ever now. Non-combatants are now strictly limited to houses and cities where they will not risk being killed. I don't know what is going to happen when I have to harvest. I do not want to have to drop something just so I can defend myself, because the profession that will get the axe is dancer. If things weren't so completely out of whack right now, it might not be an issue... but my husband's crafter character, who is a weaponsmith/artisan/merchant, died three times last night to low-level things. All one-shot kills too, I believe. This is just a LITTLE over the top. I can no longer go exploring, because I get shot off my bike. This is by FAR my biggest concern right now, and it seriously needs to be addressed.




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NJ62
Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:55 am
#36
1. Non-combat templates should be a viable option.



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Llane-Andaril-Lightbringe
Fri Apr 29, 2005 10:03 am
#37
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I couldn't agree more with the previous poster. Non-combat templates shouldbe a viable option.


However, the combat upgrade isn't exactly supportive of entertainers. Making money off buffs is close to non-existant at this point and I don't see a point of being a Master Dancer other than for just looking good (which is also fine by me). I picked this profession because I love socializing and spending time with other people, not because I am trying to get rich.


I'm sure adjustments will be made and things will improve over time.. but right now it's not agood time to be a full-time entertainer.




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Akaara
Fri Apr 29, 2005 10:29 am
#38

3 or 4


As a master tailor, master merchant and dancer 0040,I would really be heart broken if I had to give up any dancing skills! I love dancing at parties and weddings and it fits nicely with my tailor/merchant professions... so please do not make me choose between crafting or dancing! That would be unfair!






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Petronela
Fri Apr 29, 2005 10:51 am
#39

After yesterday I want # 3 more then ever.

I don't want to /respec and wouldn't even if we did have the choice. I want to be a dancer and I want to be musician, it's what I used to always have fun being. But I sure as hell don't want to spend my play-time being killed or hiding in the shadows shackledto acantina table.


Yay, how totally cool, I guess I can call myself absolutely-totally casual player since it took me 18 months to get to level 1!


Ok, maybe I'm totally wierd, but my most favorite place to dance has always been the broken staircase in the Ruined Jedi Temple. I would dance Popular2 on it and chit-chat with people passing by to get their POI.

My most favorite place to set up my Nala was the rock in the middle of the waterfalls on Nabo.

Maybe I'm claustrophobic but if I would have to guess I would say maybe only about 40% of my dancing used to be done indoors.


Deli'ah



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