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Thread: Why I won't buff

Beery
Sat Oct 11, 2003 10:38 am
#14

I'm so fed up with the lack of respect we dancers get. I won't heal anyone now unless they happen to be there when I need a heal, and they can forget about mind buffs - their stingynessforced me togo out and get a paying profession, so I don't need their money anymore.



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Combat is no longer compulsory.
Serndipity-Corbantis
Sat Oct 11, 2003 1:32 pm
#15

Beery wrote: "Tipping IS an obligation. I think it's even considered as suchin the manual"


Ummm...do you automatically tip in real life? Ask any waiter/waitress...does every single cutomer tip? NO NO NO! Tipping is a way of saying "good job and thanks." Not everyperson you meet or serve in real life will say thanks or tip you for a job well done. Tipping is not a requirement in everyday life so it shouldn't be considered mandatory or an obligation in game.


I personally have NEVER asked for tips and I won't. I have been tipped clothes when their were not many Master Tailors around. Clothing that was selling for 10k each and was very grateful to recieve it. I have been tipped supplies for tailoring (before I dropped the skill) and even supplies to supply an architect to build me my first home (a large Naboo btw). I even had one guy tip me 10k just because I was online dancing alone at 3am cst and he had no mind bar at all. I would have healed his mind and been happy for the xp and converstation myself because I was bored out of my skull (I was working hard to get my master at that time) yet he told me he was more grateful to see an active dancer and to have someone to talk to while being healed which is why he tipped me in the first place. He actually said that if I had been afk dancing he would have used my services and tipped nothing.


Just my 2 credits worth.


Serendipity - Corbantis Master Dancer/Novice Fencer


The grace and beauty of a woman are her deadliest weapons.

Reachwind
Sat Oct 11, 2003 5:26 pm
#16

For the first time ever.. People are ASKING me to dance. Not only that but PREPAYING for it. I love the enhancement. Too bad it isn't totally under our control though... I get a lot of pissed off people who forget to /watch or /stopwatch after and before I buff them... I wish it was more like a special effect in that I would /setperformance and it would buff them to completion and give me a response back like (you have finished enhnacing joe combat's mind) so i could move on to the next person at my pace.

Sienna
Sat Oct 11, 2003 6:37 pm
#17

Serndipity, when tipping is the ONLY reasonable way for an entertainer to make money while they are gaining experience (which EVERY combat class does. They get paid to complete missions, well Entertaining is ours!!) then it becomes an obligation to the rest of the player community to pay those of us who actually are sitting at the keyboard talking toand healing them. Just because we don't use resources to heal them like medics do does not mean we shouldn't be paid for services rendered, even before this new buff.

Serndipity-Corbantis
Sat Oct 11, 2003 8:53 pm
#18

I never said we shouldn't be paid. But tipping is a matter of choice and a not mandatory. Yes it is an entertainers way of gaining credits but you have 250 skill points and I seriously doubt that at some point in any entertainers career you do not take a skill to gain money. Many entertainers take up tailoring some image design, or chef and some even do armorsmithing so there are ways of getting money that don't require begging. Besides if the developers wanted tipping mandatory they would have set it up where you could not recieve an entertainers services without a contract or without an exchange of credits or even have you purchase tickets before you could recieve the services.
NotYourAvgEwok
Sat Oct 11, 2003 9:13 pm
#19

Beery isn't going to heal or buff?


No


big


loss.




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Serndipity-Corbantis
Sat Oct 11, 2003 9:26 pm
#20

Please do not even have the small minds to think this is serndipity. This is her friend but really all of you need to find something more productive then to respond too silly crying about insignificant ramblings. If anyone has ever played any other game then you know it can be a lot worse then not getting tipped. This also was told to serndipity. As for Beery darlin try getting pk'd and losing everything you own including the deed to your house. There is always a way to make it and face it its a game don't cry over spilled milk. UO in space is nothing to get your panties in an uproar over.



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Beery
Sat Oct 11, 2003 10:28 pm
#21

"Ummm...do you automatically tip in real life?"


I sure do, in industries where tips are expected. Many restaurant staff get a very low wage, and they often work long and inconvenienthours.




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Since June 2004, running one of the game's first completely nonviolent characters. Testing the limits of non-combat MMORPG play and trying to have fun into the bargain (although the developers make it difficult).

Combat is no longer compulsory.
Serndipity-Corbantis
Sat Oct 11, 2003 11:49 pm
#22

Ok so maybe I worded that wrong...I should have said "Does everyone tip all the time?"


Maybe you do and if so I apologize for implying that you didn't.


My point was simply that not everyone tips all the time. I tip 99% of the time and usually well above average...but you can bet if I find a prong off of a plastic fork in my nachos again I will not tip (and yes I know it is not the fault of the waiter/waitress but in alot of places tips are split and btw I refused to pay for the nachos as well).

Yazia
Sat Oct 11, 2003 11:59 pm
#23

I know what you mean about how nasty people can get to the entertainers, Ive had them do alot to me. Well nows my chance to get alittle back. Im going to buff em and there going to pay me for it up front. Keep playing for your enjoyment but you might as well make a few credits while your at it. Love ya all 8^)



If you cant have fun....get out of my sight.
Beery
Sun Oct 12, 2003 1:24 am
#24

Well one of the big problems for me, Yazia, is that I thinkpeople are going to use the buffs as an excuse not to pay for the other services we provide. I think we'll see a drop in tips due to this, because people will only pay if they get a buff.In my experience the PvPershave proven time and time again that they'll do anything to steal a heal, and any excuse will do.



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Since June 2004, running one of the game's first completely nonviolent characters. Testing the limits of non-combat MMORPG play and trying to have fun into the bargain (although the developers make it difficult).

Combat is no longer compulsory.
Beery
Sun Oct 12, 2003 1:37 am
#25

"I tip 99% of the time and usually well above average...but you can bet if I find a prong off of a plastic fork in my nachos again I will not tip "


Well the difference is that 90+% of my customers did not tip even though I gave great service - I talked to them (when they were willing), I gave them a great show, and I healed their mind wounds at the fastest rate possible (Master Dancer). But I still got treated like dirt, ridiculed for my lack of interest in killing people, and 90% of the people refused to tip me for the service I provided them. Heck, most people never even said "thank you".


Now if for some reason I had given poor service, I could understand them not tipping. But I didn't.




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Since June 2004, running one of the game's first completely nonviolent characters. Testing the limits of non-combat MMORPG play and trying to have fun into the bargain (although the developers make it difficult).

Combat is no longer compulsory.
Arkaye
Sun Oct 12, 2003 3:52 am
#26

Maybe dancing just isn't your gig.






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