Dancer Archive
Thread: how do you all deal with the nasties?
I've just started my Entertainer so I haven't been to this board much but I'll offer my opinion anyway.
I see others dancing doing the "arches like a cat", winks suggestively etc but not me. I usually just say hello, ask what they do or what they've done say thanks hun or something like that and thats it.
There's the tell tale sign of a RL female. I played EverQuest from beta 3 until SWG released, and from these two games I have noticed that the easiest way to spot a guy playing as a woman is the overacting. I'm not saying that all "suggestive"entertainersare RL males (I say males because I see way too many non-men in this game who do qualify as male), but males who play as a female tend to play as they would like a woman to be ... overtly sexual and have a deep seeded lust for them personally.
Every time I've met a RL female in an online game they have been very nice, normal people; women who act like women act in normal life. Think about it, why do guys go to topless bars ... the hope of finding a woman who willing to take her clothes off and give them as much sexual attention as humanly possible. Since this game allows one to play up their fantacies, RL guys who play females tend to play their factacy woman ... someone who will shower them with sexual attention.
Again, I'm not suggesting that all suggestive entertainers in SWG are really men so please don't flame me for it. In fact, I enjoy watching some of them in the cantinas myself. But when the act is a little over the top I tend to look a little more closely.
Something I've noticed recently that's kinda bugging me is the "lips kiss" , I've had in the last few days several unknown guys kiss me on the lips.
For example this guy says in say yesterday anyone know where the CH trainer is.. I sent him a tell saying I knew approximately where they were that I was leaving town and would send him the location when I got to the spot, no biggie not really out of my way as I had a mission in the direction that I thought the npc was located. Sure enough I send him a tell saying this is the loc and I waited for him to show up. Up he runs kisses me on the lips and says thanks darlin...I didn't know this guy from Adam...didn't even recognize the name as one of my regular patrons (not that I like that from them either) When it happened I just /blush and said good journeys and goodbye. Which is how I usually handle the "lip kiss" from strangers or customers.
My guildmates laughed when I said....why do guys do that....saying well you're hawt which garnered my usual bah response.
I'm not prude, just find it rather strange. I don't run up to the guys kissing them, why do they feel it's ok to do that to me.
Maybe I'm just being goofy, but don't kiss me on the lips if I don't know you and even if I do 
*hugs*
Caly
Tell 'em "I don't give out personal information in a video game." If they persist, then /ignore followed by /deny. That's what they're for.
Don't be afraid to ask for help from the other entertainers around also. I've stepped up to the plate a few times when some guy started getting a bit too familiar with the dancers. They'll normally back off if confronted. It's just difficult for a lot of dancers to initiate the confrontation.
hello,
(RL male, plaing a Male Zabrak dancer,.. just in case people are wondering 
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I've done the /kiss thing a couple of times. Not becouse i intended to kiss them on the lips, but becouse i was intending to kiss them on the cheek and momentarelly forgetting that the correct command for that is /cheek.
This mistake is (too) easelly made and i think in most instances also not meant as a real lipps kiss. I (badly) roleplay my way out of that mistake saying something like,.. "oops,... sorry, i didn't mean to kiss you on the lips, i intended to kiss you on the cheek. Perhaps next time you could stop dancing when i kiss you, if you swing your head like that it'seasy to miss my kissing mark." And then in a tell i excuse myself again. But as i find this a bad roleplay way of apoligising i can also understand that others might not know a RP way out of the situation and just leave it at that.
For the rest of the harrasment topic i really don't know what to say. I've never been harssed (neither accusing me of being gay becouse i play a dancer, nor that they are trying to work me (in) to the backroom.
Paith'z
Doesn't happen too often to me, but I try to be nice at first and tell them that I am a dancer and that is all. If they persist I get a little forcefull and consider /deny /ignore /report.
I rather like the duel idea hehe...
I occasionally get a mildly "annoying" customer, perhaps a little harassment, but these are the exception, not the rule, and the vast majority of the time, it's from someone just passing through my locale, and not a "regular". My regulars (the people I heal and buff virtually every night) know me... "me" being the character of Kalia, not me IRL, and they act/role-play accordingly. While around town, dancing, or just chatting with the passers-by my mood is set to /nice or /happy. I don't use the emotes that would lead people to think I'm being anything other than simply "nice" and "happy".
When there is a real pain-in-the-hiney around though, I simply ignore them. Not /ignore... (i want to know what they are saying incase it gets downright disgusting in which case I can /report) howeverI just refuse to ackowledge them. If it's simply a /kiss, /flirt or /wink I'll /smile or /blush or whatever in return... but if they get persistant, and start being crude I'll just go about my busines of healing and buffing as if they weren't there. Inevitably my regulars will send me /tell saying "what an jerk" or "I wish he was an overt reb so I could kick his @ss for you".
Frankly, the "good" regulars I have far outweigh the once-a-week loosers that pop in.
I guess I am quite fortunate in that I don't have to deal with these idiots really. Not sure why, I think it is because I am a fulltime roleplayer.There is only one that I ever had to put on ignore and report.
Typical conversation would go like this:
Them: A/S/L?
Me: Pardon? I don't understand.
Them: Age/sex/location
Me: Oh! 18 / Female/ Ryloth
Them: LOL, no ASL in RL
Me: RL? *looks confused*
Them: Real life (of course by this point some are already bored and go away)
Me: Are you feeling alright? This is real life, you're here in the xxx cantina and I am dancing for you and your friends. *gives them a concerned look*
Them: Wierdo (and they get bored and run off) OR You know this is just a game right?
Me: A word game? Yes, I am beginning to understand that... *smiles warmly at them*
Them: (at this point they are normally bored silly, or take it to tells to try and explain themselves)
When you get the tells come in like : Can I put you on my friends list? My normal answer if I don't know them is "I can't stop you, so if you want." This normally elicits a "But do you want me to?" So I say, "I don't really know you, so I'd rather not." At which point they normally never contact me again I maybe missing out on some genuinely nice people with this approach, but it's saved me a lot of grief.
As for dealing with those annoying kisses on the lips... I use a couple of techniques that normally elicit a LOL from the offendor then next time they see me they are more courteous.
- K'vera turns her head quickly so the kiss lands on her cheek.
- K'vera shakes her head and points to her cheek. "Cheek only, my lips are off limits."
- K'vera shakes her head and points to her boyfriend, "I wouldn't do that if I were you... "
So to sum up:
- Stay in character and don't be drawn out of it. You will either discover a rper or they will get bored of you real fast.
- Don't take it personally.
Heheh... I like your way of doing things Kyorlana!
Although, technically... the "L" in ASL isn't Ryloth... it's wherever we happen to be. It's no fun that we don't get our homeworld in the game. 
I hadn't had muh problem until I made Master Dancer. I have not had much since then but it's thre. Some can be taken in fun, some can't and you need to learn to discern these.
For example, I had a Trandoshan combatant who comes in and get mind buffs from me quite often. At first glance to his Bio, he's not the kind of person that I'd associate with (ingame and out) but through Rp, He's not that bad. Yes, there is the ocassional drooling and once tere was a lick but I tend to be pretty good about telling them that drool on the floor makes me slip and I'd really hate to break a leg then have to sit in the corner and craft for 6 weeks until it healed.
There is a Twi'lek make that's very cildish and prefers to punch the entire cantina and gets worse when politely asked to cease spamming. He starts saying that you are a guy in real life and actually adversely affects your clientel. I don't use 'deny service" often, I try to roleplay it out by simply refuing to dance, but in this case it would have hurt me more than him. There were a bunch of other entertainers, we were having fun, and I was giving a mind buff. Sitting wasn't an option, so I Denied serice and ignored him. My big issue was the spam, so ignore worked well.
There's a guy who I met in Bestine (Ahazi, bestine is not a place to go if you want tips, good RP or anything not childish apparently... but I wasn't there long) He was pleased that I was a 'dark meat' Twi'lek and again with the drooling. (The problem is the emote really, you can't just "drool" you drool all over people. It's limiting really. And you can't wink, you can only wink suggestively at people.) I tried RPing with him and the reaction was pretty amusing. Aparently his character has mood swings, I'd insulted him by denying his drooling affection and he burst into tears. ...quite amusing really ^-^ But harmless none the less.
Usually, like everyone said, it can be ignored. I don't lead people on. If they say things that are suggestive, I lean the other direction. ...one guy was persistant so I refered to my Bio about being a slave so that meant I wasn't able to just go of with people. ....somehow he got the idea that the poor medic that was healing us was my master, killed the medic and pronounced me free. ... it was weird, but I stood by my decision not to go running about. Just set up some rules and be friendly about it, if you have to, don't respond.
don't touch the dancers, don't get drool on the floor, DO admire from over there, (security gets people off the stage at concerts after all), don't sit in my dancing space, don't sit your animals on top of me, etc... Usually I'm good natured, usually it's not a big deal.
Tekoa- Twi'lek Master Dancer- Ahazi
Pet peeve: wearing the wrong clothes for the wrong dances....
Well, I RP a female dancer and have seen the bad side of things, i.e. stalking, name calling, lewd behavior, etc. 99% of my clientele are very poilite and nice. The other 1% are just plain trying for attention. If asked, I tell them that I am a guy, and usually that stops the harassment, usually resulting in them throwing up on me, etc.
I look at it this way... It's just agame. If I ignore people or bad behavior, they usually go away. If not, I simply stop dancing/healing until they do.
You do not need to deal with inappropriate behavior. If someone is bothering you, let them know... Then if it continues, let Sony know.
It is certainly interesting to see things from the other side of the fence with the roles reversed.
And I dropped him, told him to pay attention next time, and gave him the mercy stroke.
Of course, he then /told me "bitch" and "i wouldn't hav db'd you!" To which I replied "Well, maybe now you understand that I was serious when I said to back off." "u r taking a game seriously? what a looser!"
Some people... just don't get it. Welcome to the my-friends-won't-sell-you-anything-or-heal-you list.
Oh, then later that night he sent me a 1 credit bank transfer with an insulting email. Yay.
Anyway, most people will back off if you RP being offended with them. Some won't. And for some bizarre reason, some people will hit on you for being demure. Some day maybe I'll understand.