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Thread: In Development: Recursive Macros are going away.

PhoenixStar
Mon Aug 02, 2004 4:38 pm
#144

Drygo speaking as a male dancer myself, I can safely say that you're sadly mistaken if you think you can compete with a female avatar live or AFK. That's why you got ignored. Did you notice that the crowd was all male? Sorry most of them do not want to watch your avatar or mine. Not to mention the fact that the girl on Bria has a very nice macro that is quick and easy to use. She gives you both Master Musician and Dancer buffs quickly and effeciently. If you want to compete, create a better service on coronet or elsewhere. There are many cantinas and hardly any entertainers try to take advantage of them. Many people end up heading to coronet because so many entertainers ignore other cantinas. Go to Yavin IV and establish yourself(though being male you will not make much regardless...).


Sounds like your problem lies with being a male dancer surrounded by guys who would rather stare at a guy pretending to be a girl. Roll up a female alt or deal with the repercussions of playing a male. I've dealt with it, others have dealt with it. That's hardly a reason to get rid of /macro. Buff bots are hardly a reason to get rid of /macro. There are so many uses for /macro and so many advantages versus 2 disadvantages which are spam(there's an ignore feature) and buff bots which you can tackle by providing a better service. It's all up to you to try harder. This won't change a thing, people will still run buff bots and check back periodically to restart them, so you'll need to try harder to compete.


Ha, and just after I was about to hit submit I got a tell from another guy asking me to buff him and he complimented my performance...I guess it is possible to compete with "girls".
CodeBreaker007
Mon Aug 02, 2004 4:46 pm
#145

It's not just about being a male dancer it people you get to know in-game, the more you know the more trade you have, in are guild we have over 50 people, if I was to charge even just 1k for each thats 50k, so join a guild...


Also try finding clothing thats bright and funny to look at, and use a wacky dance, it's all about making friend and getting noticed, the more you get noticed the more trade you will get, be fare with prices and friendly with your customers and they will soon come back....



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Drygo
Mon Aug 02, 2004 4:49 pm
#146

Oh geez. Anything to try to prove a point. We got a couple of buffbot or supporters (not sure which) who claim anything under the sun just to prove a point. It's because I'm a guy...it's because I don't wear bright clothes, it's because I'm not in a guild.


Well, I can tell you, when I was in a guild, they all expected to get everything for free...


But, alas, I see it's pointless to argue with the two of you. The fact of the matter is that we're going to have to agree to disagree here. We have two people who say anybody can make money buffing if only they try hard enough, have a sex change, and wear the right clothes. And, then we got 50 people saying that it's impossible to compete with buffbots.


Yeah...ok...right...



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PhoenixStar
Mon Aug 02, 2004 4:49 pm
#147

I'm in a guild, but when I'm not there I'm usually in coronet. If these entertainers who claim they want to socialize would come back we'd have more people to talk to and less reason to go afk, but sadly they'd rather whine here and do nothing to improve the atmosphere themselves.


All it takes is using the ignore feature to ignore bots and normal chatting like always, there's really no problem. I'm chatting with my group right now...
Drygo
Mon Aug 02, 2004 4:51 pm
#148






PhoenixStar wrote:

I'm in a guild, but when I'm not there I'm usually in coronet. If these entertainers who claim they want to socialize would come back we'd have more people to talk to and less reason to go afk, but sadly they'd rather whine here and do nothing to improve the atmosphere themselves.


All it takes is using the ignore feature to ignore bots and normal chatting like always, there's really no problem. I'm chatting with my group right now...






Your experience is both lucky and unusual. I think that's great for you. But, don't claim that your experience is the same as everybody else's or could be the same as everybody else's because you'll be wrong all the time.



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PhoenixStar
Mon Aug 02, 2004 4:54 pm
#149






Drygo wrote:

Oh geez. Anything to try to prove a point. We got a couple of buffbot or supporters (not sure which) who claim anything under the sun just to prove a point. It's because I'm a guy...it's because I don't wear bright clothes, it's because I'm not in a guild.


Well, I can tell you, when I was in a guild, they all expected to get everything for free...


But, alas, I see it's pointless to argue with the two of you. The fact of the matter is that we're going to have to agree to disagree here. We have two people who say anybody can make money buffing if only they try hard enough, have a sex change, and wear the right clothes. And, then we got 50 people saying that it's impossible to compete with buffbots.


Yeah...ok...right...




LOL! You charge your own guildmates and you wonder why they didn't like you? I don't charge anyone and my friendlist is over-flowing with girls and guys. I also get tips(not the amount girls get, but enough to keep me satisfied) and sometimes free items. Maybe if you didn't act like you're the lord of the cantina and realize that there are other people inside you'd socialize and make friends who would love to tip you. Setting a price for someone to watch you dance is definately going to make them find someone who's offering the same service for free...duh.

Drygo
Mon Aug 02, 2004 4:57 pm
#150






PhoenixStar wrote:





Drygo wrote:

Oh geez. Anything to try to prove a point. We got a couple of buffbot or supporters (not sure which) who claim anything under the sun just to prove a point. It's because I'm a guy...it's because I don't wear bright clothes, it's because I'm not in a guild.


Well, I can tell you, when I was in a guild, they all expected to get everything for free...


But, alas, I see it's pointless to argue with the two of you. The fact of the matter is that we're going to have to agree to disagree here. We have two people who say anybody can make money buffing if only they try hard enough, have a sex change, and wear the right clothes. And, then we got 50 people saying that it's impossible to compete with buffbots.


Yeah...ok...right...




LOL! You charge your own guildmates and you wonder why they didn't like you? I don't charge anyone and my friendlist is over-flowing with girls and guys. I also get tips(not the amount girls get, but enough to keep me satisfied) and sometimes free items. Maybe if you didn't act like you're the lord of the cantina and realize that there are other people inside you'd socialize and make friends who would love to tip you. Setting a price for someone to watch you dance is definately going to make them find someone who's offering the same service for free...duh.








Did you even read my post? At no time did I say I charged my guildmates. I did not. And, the vast majority of the time I didn't get 1 credit as a tip. I was responding to someone who said that if I joined a guild I'd make money. I was clearly refuting that that is not the case. If an entertainer joins a guild, they can expect to make no money at all and spend all their time buffing people. Try to read a little more carefully, because when you don't your insults only make you look like the ass.





- I support hawtpants
PhoenixStar
Mon Aug 02, 2004 5:02 pm
#151






Drygo wrote:





PhoenixStar wrote:





Drygo wrote:

Oh geez. Anything to try to prove a point. We got a couple of buffbot or supporters (not sure which) who claim anything under the sun just to prove a point. It's because I'm a guy...it's because I don't wear bright clothes, it's because I'm not in a guild.


Well, I can tell you, when I was in a guild, they all expected to get everything for free...


But, alas, I see it's pointless to argue with the two of you. The fact of the matter is that we're going to have to agree to disagree here. We have two people who say anybody can make money buffing if only they try hard enough, have a sex change, and wear the right clothes. And, then we got 50 people saying that it's impossible to compete with buffbots.


Yeah...ok...right...




LOL! You charge your own guildmates and you wonder why they didn't like you? I don't charge anyone and my friendlist is over-flowing with girls and guys. I also get tips(not the amount girls get, but enough to keep me satisfied) and sometimes free items. Maybe if you didn't act like you're the lord of the cantina and realize that there are other people inside you'd socialize and make friends who would love to tip you. Setting a price for someone to watch you dance is definately going to make them find someone who's offering the same service for free...duh.








Did you even read my post? At no time did I say I charged my guildmates. I did not. And, the vast majority of the time I didn't get 1 credit as a tip. I was responding to someone who said that if I joined a guild I'd make money. I was clearly refuting that that is not the case. If an entertainer joins a guild, they can expect to make no money at all and spend all their time buffing people. Try to read a little more carefully, because when you don't your insults only make you look like the ass.








Silly me?
Drygo
Mon Aug 02, 2004 5:05 pm
#152






PhoenixStar wrote:





Drygo wrote:





PhoenixStar wrote:





Drygo wrote:

Oh geez. Anything to try to prove a point. We got a couple of buffbot or supporters (not sure which) who claim anything under the sun just to prove a point. It's because I'm a guy...it's because I don't wear bright clothes, it's because I'm not in a guild.


Well, I can tell you, when I was in a guild, they all expected to get everything for free...


But, alas, I see it's pointless to argue with the two of you. The fact of the matter is that we're going to have to agree to disagree here. We have two people who say anybody can make money buffing if only they try hard enough, have a sex change, and wear the right clothes. And, then we got 50 people saying that it's impossible to compete with buffbots.


Yeah...ok...right...




LOL! You charge your own guildmates and you wonder why they didn't like you? I don't charge anyone and my friendlist is over-flowing with girls and guys. I also get tips(not the amount girls get, but enough to keep me satisfied) and sometimes free items. Maybe if you didn't act like you're the lord of the cantina and realize that there are other people inside you'd socialize and make friends who would love to tip you. Setting a price for someone to watch you dance is definately going to make them find someone who's offering the same service for free...duh.








Did you even read my post? At no time did I say I charged my guildmates. I did not. And, the vast majority of the time I didn't get 1 credit as a tip. I was responding to someone who said that if I joined a guild I'd make money. I was clearly refuting that that is not the case. If an entertainer joins a guild, they can expect to make no money at all and spend all their time buffing people. Try to read a little more carefully, because when you don't your insults only make you look like the ass.








Silly me?






Yes. Silly you. I said, "when I was in a guild everyone expected everything to be free." No more, no less. They expected my buffs to be free. And, they were. Where here did I say I charged, or even attempted to charge my guildmates? Nowhere. And, that's the truth, I didn't charge them, nor did I try to charge them. Ask any of them, never once did. But, there are expectations in a guild, such as free or resource cost services. That's the expectation. That's what I was stating. Try not to read into things that aren't there.



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PhoenixStar
Mon Aug 02, 2004 5:12 pm
#153






Drygo wrote:





PhoenixStar wrote:





Drygo wrote:





PhoenixStar wrote:





Drygo wrote:

Oh geez. Anything to try to prove a point. We got a couple of buffbot or supporters (not sure which) who claim anything under the sun just to prove a point. It's because I'm a guy...it's because I don't wear bright clothes, it's because I'm not in a guild.


Well, I can tell you, when I was in a guild, they all expected to get everything for free...


But, alas, I see it's pointless to argue with the two of you. The fact of the matter is that we're going to have to agree to disagree here. We have two people who say anybody can make money buffing if only they try hard enough, have a sex change, and wear the right clothes. And, then we got 50 people saying that it's impossible to compete with buffbots.


Yeah...ok...right...




LOL! You charge your own guildmates and you wonder why they didn't like you? I don't charge anyone and my friendlist is over-flowing with girls and guys. I also get tips(not the amount girls get, but enough to keep me satisfied) and sometimes free items. Maybe if you didn't act like you're the lord of the cantina and realize that there are other people inside you'd socialize and make friends who would love to tip you. Setting a price for someone to watch you dance is definately going to make them find someone who's offering the same service for free...duh.








Did you even read my post? At no time did I say I charged my guildmates. I did not. And, the vast majority of the time I didn't get 1 credit as a tip. I was responding to someone who said that if I joined a guild I'd make money. I was clearly refuting that that is not the case. If an entertainer joins a guild, they can expect to make no money at all and spend all their time buffing people. Try to read a little more carefully, because when you don't your insults only make you look like the ass.








Silly me?






Yes. Silly you. I said, "when I was in a guild everyone expected everything to be free." No more, no less. They expected my buffs to be free. And, they were. Where here did I say I charged, or even attempted to charge my guildmates? Nowhere. And, that's the truth, I didn't charge them, nor did I try to charge them. Ask any of them, never once did. But, there are expectations in a guild, such as free or resource cost services. That's the expectation. That's what I was stating. Try not to read into things that aren't there.






If you had no problem with it why mention it? Of course they expect everything to be free, that's what guilds are for. You make friends, you help each other. If you became a dancer for the great economy and huge paycheck then you were sadly mistaken. I've been a dancer since I started(among other things) and I was always poor back then, people tip me more now but still not nearly what they could. You're in the wrong profession to begin with, it's not a money maker. ID makes more money, I get 20k per migration.


The you're not reading posts are very silly, anything you write can be percieved one way or another, make it clear who you're talking to and what about. Any confusion involved lies with you, the writer. Unless you think there's only one way to percieve anything written. I guess that's why there are classes soley based on what authors may be trying to say, because everything has one meaning...or you just need to learn how to express yourself more clearly?

Drygo
Mon Aug 02, 2004 5:23 pm
#154






PhoenixStar wrote:








Did you even read my post? At no time did I say I charged my guildmates. I did not. And, the vast majority of the time I didn't get 1 credit as a tip. I was responding to someone who said that if I joined a guild I'd make money. I was clearly refuting that that is not the case. If an entertainer joins a guild, they can expect to make no money at all and spend all their time buffing people. Try to read a little more carefully, because when you don't your insults only make you look like the ass.








Silly me?






Yes. Silly you. I said, "when I was in a guild everyone expected everything to be free." No more, no less. They expected my buffs to be free. And, they were. Where here did I say I charged, or even attempted to charge my guildmates? Nowhere. And, that's the truth, I didn't charge them, nor did I try to charge them. Ask any of them, never once did. But, there are expectations in a guild, such as free or resource cost services. That's the expectation. That's what I was stating. Try not to read into things that aren't there.






If you had no problem with it why mention it? Of course they expect everything to be free, that's what guilds are for. You make friends, you help each other. If you became a dancer for the great economy and huge paycheck then you were sadly mistaken. I've been a dancer since I started(among other things) and I was always poor back then, people tip me more now but still not nearly what they could. You're in the wrong profession to begin with, it's not a money maker. ID makes more money, I get 20k per migration.


The you're not reading posts are very silly, anything you write can be percieved one way or another, make it clear who you're talking to and what about. Any confusion involved lies with you, the writer. Unless you think there's only one way to percieve anything written. I guess that's why there are classes soley based on what authors may be trying to say, because everything has one meaning...or you just need to learn how to express yourself more clearly?







Again, failure to read posts. Read above. Look at what I highlighted in yellow. And, you will see why I mentioned it.


I'm sorry, but you are clearly arguing just for the sake of arguing at this point, using non points, false points, and twisted points. So, I'm done with you.


Oh and before you say it, I know exactly what your response is gonna be because I hear it every single time I decide to bow out of a discussion due to someone else's failure to make an effective argument. That is, "Oh, you can't refute what I say, so you're not gonna try, you know I'm right." Let me save you some typing. I can refute every single one of your points and non points, but I choose not to because it's a waste of my time.



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FuschiaD
Mon Aug 02, 2004 5:46 pm
#155

Sorry Phoenix, Drygo's got it all over you this round.


Drygo 4 teh win, as my guildies would say.




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PhoenixStar
Mon Aug 02, 2004 5:54 pm
#156






FuschiaD wrote:

Sorry Phoenix, Drygo's got it all over you this round.


Drygo 4 teh win, as my guildies would say.








Ok? Drygo:



YOU WIN! *cookie*


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