Dancer Archive
Thread: In Development: Recursive Macros are going away.
Doriana
Mon Aug 02, 2004 12:06 pm
#118
DarkY0da wrote:I LOVE YOU DEVS!!!! Thank you Panthu, Tiaga and NewJedi very very very much. And a Huge hug to TH for taking the brunt of a lot of the bashing that is going on because of this.
Hear hear!
I second that!
Schardour
Mon Aug 02, 2004 12:19 pm
#119
/sign !!!
Doriana wrote:
DarkY0da wrote:
I LOVE YOU DEVS!!!! Thank you Panthu, Tiaga and NewJedi very very very much. And a Huge hug to TH for taking the brunt of a lot of the bashing that is going on because of this.
Hear hear!
I second that!
Osawa_Scylla
Mon Aug 02, 2004 1:00 pm
#120
PhoenixStar wrote:
Uh look at my registration date lol, I've mastered all of my professions through the ways that are being removed. I'm not quitting...As far as ID I agree with that because it was way too fast, but now they broke it of course. Dancer takes the same amount of time with or without macros, but the repetative button pushing is idiotic. You cannot walk away for days because one you have to be there to train and two the servers restart at 7 am everyday, so you do have to come back to your computer. Looping macros was only good for a few hours no matter how you look at it and it hasn't changed a thing because you can still write out long macros that do the exact same thing. Waste of time and energy that could've been put forth to actual content.
Am I supposed to be impressed by your registration date? I imagine if I'd stuck with the game when I first bought it, mine would be about the same.
So you have to spend five more minutes making a longer macro. Some people, however, are too lazy to spend five more minutes on a macro. For those people, that's an Entertainer victory. That's that much less AFK clutter in the cantina. That's that many fewer people cluttering up my ignore list. That's that many fewer people who clutter up the cantina begging for tips from those who don't have AFK chat turned off.
We'll only have to worry about the hardcore buff bots who set up in the cantina now, the ones who go through and add in hours of their buffbot macro into a single macro instead of recalling the macro each time it ended. And, if the player doesn't return to the computer, then the buffbot just becomes a silent body in the corner who's no longer stealing ATK entertainer income.
Osawa
CodeBreaker007
Mon Aug 02, 2004 2:57 pm
#121
Again these forums do no doute not even cover half the swg community and the fraction of players in these threads moaning about looping macros and the dev's donot take that into concideration when making these decisions.. I't would be better in these situations if soe, placed a voting system onto the front webpage for swg and asked the community as a whole instead of a few trying to change the game...They should be trying to reach all the swg community when making these changes not just you guys in these forums..
And by the way, those who replied to my post, What else can dancers do to make money? and what kind of person sits infront of their pc all day watching a character dance, is that what you call gameplay, their has to be more to this profession than standing around dancing all day....As I said thats all a dancer can do, so yes it is boring..And the only reason people use this profession is to gain mind buffing...And please don't say you've been dancing or entertaining for months, because it would be nice to know what you do as an entertainer that keeps you interested in that profession.
PhoenixStar
Mon Aug 02, 2004 3:07 pm
#122
CodeBreaker007 wrote:
Again these forums do no doute not even cover half the swg community and the fraction of players in these threads moaning about looping macros and the dev's donot take that into concideration when making these decisions.. I't would be better in these situations if soe, placed a voting system onto the front webpage for swg and asked the community as a whole instead of a few trying to change the game...They should be trying to reach all the swg community when making these changes not just you guys in these forums..
And by the way, those who replied to my post, What else can dancers do to make money? and what kind of person sits infront of their pc all day watching a character dance, is that what you call gameplay, their has to be more to this profession than standing around dancing all day....As I said thats all a dancer can do, so yes it is boring..And the only reason people use this profession is to gain mind buffing...And please don't say you've been dancing or entertaining for months, because it would be nice to know what you do as an entertainer that keeps you interested in that profession.
You just hit the nail on the head, that's how you can spot a liar. No one has been playing for 6 months to a year just dancing away in the cantina without a looping macro. The only reason I still play a dancer for more than a few hours is because of my macro, I can walk away and help guildmates that need it, then I log off and play another character.
Drygo
Mon Aug 02, 2004 3:22 pm
#123
PhoenixStar wrote:
CodeBreaker007 wrote:
Again these forums do no doute not even cover half the swg community and the fraction of players in these threads moaning about looping macros and the dev's donot take that into concideration when making these decisions.. I't would be better in these situations if soe, placed a voting system onto the front webpage for swg and asked the community as a whole instead of a few trying to change the game...They should be trying to reach all the swg community when making these changes not just you guys in these forums..
And by the way, those who replied to my post, What else can dancers do to make money? and what kind of person sits infront of their pc all day watching a character dance, is that what you call gameplay, their has to be more to this profession than standing around dancing all day....As I said thats all a dancer can do, so yes it is boring..And the only reason people use this profession is to gain mind buffing...And please don't say you've been dancing or entertaining for months, because it would be nice to know what you do as an entertainer that keeps you interested in that profession.
You just hit the nail on the head, that's how you can spot a liar. No one has been playing for 6 months to a year just dancing away in the cantina without a looping macro. The only reason I still play a dancer for more than a few hours is because of my macro, I can walk away and help guildmates that need it, then I log off and play another character.
My goodness. You act like it's the end of the world without the loop in the macro. You can still have macros, you do realize that, don't you? So, instead of having a never ending loop, you hit F1 every 5 minutes or so. The horror.
PhoenixStar
Mon Aug 02, 2004 3:24 pm
#124
Drygo wrote:
PhoenixStar wrote:
CodeBreaker007 wrote:
Again these forums do no doute not even cover half the swg community and the fraction of players in these threads moaning about looping macros and the dev's donot take that into concideration when making these decisions.. I't would be better in these situations if soe, placed a voting system onto the front webpage for swg and asked the community as a whole instead of a few trying to change the game...They should be trying to reach all the swg community when making these changes not just you guys in these forums..
And by the way, those who replied to my post, What else can dancers do to make money? and what kind of person sits infront of their pc all day watching a character dance, is that what you call gameplay, their has to be more to this profession than standing around dancing all day....As I said thats all a dancer can do, so yes it is boring..And the only reason people use this profession is to gain mind buffing...And please don't say you've been dancing or entertaining for months, because it would be nice to know what you do as an entertainer that keeps you interested in that profession.
You just hit the nail on the head, that's how you can spot a liar. No one has been playing for 6 months to a year just dancing away in the cantina without a looping macro. The only reason I still play a dancer for more than a few hours is because of my macro, I can walk away and help guildmates that need it, then I log off and play another character.
My goodness. You act like it's the end of the world without the loop in the macro. You can still have macros, you do realize that, don't you? So, instead of having a never ending loop, you hit F1 every 5 minutes or so. The horror.
My goodness. You act like it's the end of the world witht he loop in the macro. You can still dance and chat in the cantina with loop macros, you do realize that, don't you? So instead of hitting F1 every 5 minutes or so, you can walk away and do other things like go to work. The horror.
Schardour
Mon Aug 02, 2004 3:26 pm
#125
PhoenixStar wrote:
The only reason I still play a dancer for more than a few hours is because of my macro, I can walk away....
The only reason you play is because you can walk away? I find that difficult to believe. If it's truly the case, then you don't need to be playing that profession...
PhoenixStar
Mon Aug 02, 2004 3:29 pm
#126
What's so hard to believe about it? Believe it or not some of us go out on Saturday's which happens to be the same day as alot of guild hunts, since I can't be there to go along I leave my buff macro running so my guildmates can get buffed while I'm out.
Jesus, yes that is SO hard to believe. There are more advantages to looping macros than disadvantages, just because you can't see them or haven't utilized them doesn't make them bad. This attitude of "I don't need them so no one else does" is ridiculous. You dislike one product of them and therefore the whole thing must go no matter how many people it effects.
Osawa_Scylla
Mon Aug 02, 2004 3:37 pm
#127
The ability to leave that running, buffing whoever happens by, while you go out on Saturday night, go to work, go to sleep, go do whatever it happens to be that doesn't include sitting at your computer and playing the game, is exactly why it's being changed and removed from the game.
Osawa
PhoenixStar
Mon Aug 02, 2004 3:39 pm
#128
Drygo wrote:
PhoenixStar wrote:
Drygo wrote:
PhoenixStar wrote:
CodeBreaker007 wrote:
Again these forums do no doute not even cover half the swg community and the fraction of players in these threads moaning about looping macros and the dev's donot take that into concideration when making these decisions.. I't would be better in these situations if soe, placed a voting system onto the front webpage for swg and asked the community as a whole instead of a few trying to change the game...They should be trying to reach all the swg community when making these changes not just you guys in these forums..
And by the way, those who replied to my post, What else can dancers do to make money? and what kind of person sits infront of their pc all day watching a character dance, is that what you call gameplay, their has to be more to this profession than standing around dancing all day....As I said thats all a dancer can do, so yes it is boring..And the only reason people use this profession is to gain mind buffing...And please don't say you've been dancing or entertaining for months, because it would be nice to know what you do as an entertainer that keeps you interested in that profession.
You just hit the nail on the head, that's how you can spot a liar. No one has been playing for 6 months to a year just dancing away in the cantina without a looping macro. The only reason I still play a dancer for more than a few hours is because of my macro, I can walk away and help guildmates that need it, then I log off and play another character.
My goodness. You act like it's the end of the world without the loop in the macro. You can still have macros, you do realize that, don't you? So, instead of having a never ending loop, you hit F1 every 5 minutes or so. The horror.
My goodness. You act like it's the end of the world witht he loop in the macro. You can still dance and chat in the cantina with loop macros, you do realize that, don't you? So instead of hitting F1 every 5 minutes or so, you can walk away and do other things like go to work. The horror.
The option you propose is exactly what goes on right now, and yes, it is horrible. The fact that everyone and their mother has an alt account that buffs and heals afk has completely and utterly destroyed my and many others' economic viability. You don't seem to understand this, but this is what is going on. And, the negatives of someone having to hit F1 every 5 minutes is far less than the negatives involved in destroying a professions' economic viability.
No, your leaving destroyed your economic viability. I know many people who refuse to tip bots and actively look for live players before going to a buff bot. I fyou would go back to the cantina and try you'd see that the only thing that has changed is live entertainers have run away, except for those of us who stayed as there was no reason to leave to begin with.
Cobacca1
Mon Aug 02, 2004 3:42 pm
#129
And I haven't quite figured out the misplaced animosity that people seem to have towards these "buffbots"... they are harming no one, and helping every one. I, for one, love to go into C-net cantina and find a dancer who is AFK, but has an auto-join buff macro running. It's great, the person is offering a service that wouldn't be there if they had to sit there for hours and watch the keyboard. Where is the harm in that? The players all benefit from being able to get mind buffs at off-peak hours, and the AFK player benefits from the probably tip that is paid for the buff. Who is losing in this situation?
Drygo
Mon Aug 02, 2004 3:43 pm
#130
PhoenixStar wrote:
Drygo wrote:
PhoenixStar wrote:
Drygo wrote:
PhoenixStar wrote:
CodeBreaker007 wrote:
Again these forums do no doute not even cover half the swg community and the fraction of players in these threads moaning about looping macros and the dev's donot take that into concideration when making these decisions.. I't would be better in these situations if soe, placed a voting system onto the front webpage for swg and asked the community as a whole instead of a few trying to change the game...They should be trying to reach all the swg community when making these changes not just you guys in these forums..
And by the way, those who replied to my post, What else can dancers do to make money? and what kind of person sits infront of their pc all day watching a character dance, is that what you call gameplay, their has to be more to this profession than standing around dancing all day....As I said thats all a dancer can do, so yes it is boring..And the only reason people use this profession is to gain mind buffing...And please don't say you've been dancing or entertaining for months, because it would be nice to know what you do as an entertainer that keeps you interested in that profession.
You just hit the nail on the head, that's how you can spot a liar. No one has been playing for 6 months to a year just dancing away in the cantina without a looping macro. The only reason I still play a dancer for more than a few hours is because of my macro, I can walk away and help guildmates that need it, then I log off and play another character.
My goodness. You act like it's the end of the world without the loop in the macro. You can still have macros, you do realize that, don't you? So, instead of having a never ending loop, you hit F1 every 5 minutes or so. The horror.
My goodness. You act like it's the end of the world witht he loop in the macro. You can still dance and chat in the cantina with loop macros, you do realize that, don't you? So instead of hitting F1 every 5 minutes or so, you can walk away and do other things like go to work. The horror.
The option you propose is exactly what goes on right now, and yes, it is horrible. The fact that everyone and their mother has an alt account that buffs and heals afk has completely and utterly destroyed my and many others' economic viability. You don't seem to understand this, but this is what is going on. And, the negatives of someone having to hit F1 every 5 minutes is far less than the negatives involved in destroying a professions' economic viability.
No, your leaving destroyed your economic viability. I know many people who refuse to tip bots and actively look for live players before going to a buff bot. I fyou would go back to the cantina and try you'd see that the only thing that has changed is live entertainers have run away, except for those of us who stayed as there was no reason to leave to begin with.
So very wrong, in the last 2 weeks alone, I have made a concerted effort to visit the Coronet Cantina on the server that I most play. All four times I stayed between 1 and 4 hours. All four times there was a buffbot there. All four times I advertised my services both through indirect spatial, and by directly asking people. All four times I got no business AT ALL. Why? Because there were 15 people at a time over at the buffbot using her services while I was completely and utterly ignored. That's a FACT. Try and refute it.