Creature Handler Archive

Thread: The secret is revealed.

Freth
Tue May 10, 2005 4:35 am
#27

PVE-wise, I can kill most things with ease. This is in part thanks to my pet. And Dodece is right... pets do act like weapons now. BE's are our weaponsmiths. I never really thought of it that way, but it makes sense.



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Pie-Oh-Pah
Tue May 10, 2005 5:02 am
#28

You do know that people can still respec at the moment, right? That kinda tosses the whole reasoning behind your big hush hush "I will only tell you all the big secret once therespec period is over" charadea wee bit out of the window, dont you think?





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MithandirMajare
Tue May 10, 2005 6:06 am
#29

All for this???

Lol, you make me laught a lot friend. Im sure that everyone are making respec now to be MCH, as you said

Incredible...




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Ziege19
Tue May 10, 2005 6:35 am
#30

THIS is what you thought all the power gamers were gonna "flock" to CH for?

Wow. lol.



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P9M
Tue May 10, 2005 6:37 am
#31

Well, I got to say, this is hardly the game breaker OMG everyone wants to be CH FOTM-exploit suprise I thought it would be.

It will be fixed. CH are hated so much by the Devs I will expect it fixed soon. Accounts banned. Sorry guys, this one would have been better to keep in the ol boy network. Posting that you found an exploit and are going to use it is not the brightest of moves.


I do think it is a nice find. But I also agree with those who say this revelation is better for BE than CH. Uber 1/0 creatures last time around were going for millions of credits. That helped CH diddly squat. BE got rich and CH reported CH for exploiting.

Dodece, I never thought we would agree, but you are perfectly correct when you say CH cannot unify under one cause. It is a multifaceted profession. Tamers, PvE and PvPers all in one profession. There is no way to rally the troops. The tamers will always insist their issues are first and foremost, when will CH be respected in PvP will remain the question of the day for others, and why our pets will not tank in PvE is the question for some.

SOE still cannot answer the Frenzied Graul question even after close to 2 years of it being broken and no verified sighting of a baby. They have no intention of answering CH questions. The correspondent program is nothing more than an illusion. I defy anyone to show me where CH were answered anything relavent in the past 1.5 years. Everyone vehemently defended Vert as doing is job but there is no post where SOE told CH anything from Vert. We have lots of cross posts where he points to a CURB thread. Make no bones about it CH is here to take what ever neglect is intended and some they forgot to put on the list.

Unless SOE starts to communicate I have no choice but to infer they do not want to communicate. Seemingly their interest is only in my dollar and not a playable game. In fact, I realize by continuing to pay I merely encourage this disrespect that SOE gives me.

CH cannot unify. CH will suffer as a result.
Corpusblight
Tue May 10, 2005 8:03 am
#32

Freth


Pets actually can do as PvP now.


My rancor single handedly killed 3 jedi who offered to help me test how powerful it was.


When I went to bestine to PvP it also single handedly killed 2 imps and almost got a 3rd who saved himeself last min with some quick stim work, mostly because he was smart enough to quickly incap me first.


And of course when I was out there some a$$ said "OMG please tell me pet wars isn't comming back"





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SioBabble
Tue May 10, 2005 8:19 am
#33

While I already knew about this to some extent because I have a BE alt, the problem is that HAM is no longer THE overwhelming factor in the value of a pet. And my BE has a TON of preCU DNA lying around.


Because of the level system's multiplier effect, a pet with an H bar of 9k but a level of 30 is inferior to a pet with an H bar of 6k and a level of 69. The latter pet can hold up better against level 80 mobs than the former. I've tested this in combat.


While this might, on the surface, seem like a wonderful thing, under closer examination it's simply not that earthshattering.




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Iakimo
Tue May 10, 2005 9:16 am
#34

Okay, first point: Whoop-de-freaking-doo.


Second point: Whether this is an "exploit" or not is totally up to the devs. They've allowed many things in the past that looked and smelled like exploits to many people (such as the once-a-day Jedi/Master Bounty Hunter "fight clubs"), so they might allow this discovery to remain -- or they might not. Personally, I think it's suspect. They obviously intended that all pets would be weakened; this simply sounds like a detail they missed in coding the revamp.


Third point: As others have observed, this does little to motivate players to pay any attention to the pet rather than simply killing the Creature Handler. Doubled Health or not, pets still stop fighting when their master goes down. And Creature Handlers are effectively gimped single-mastery combatants. So, the petsremain irrelevant.


I will remain a Creature Handler. It was simply too fun a meta-game to give up easily. But this "revelation" does nothing to strengthen my resolve.





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Ekaw
Tue May 10, 2005 11:45 am
#35

hey there, well at least i have like 1-2 hundred pre nerf pet deeds i have amassed over the past years lol. sample...


Now, this is no greater news than some other things I have already seen/experiences with CH post curb but it is a sweet thing and I am stoked as heck about it.


I would not have posted it here ever tbh though as the least amount of attention, the better imo.



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Kulian
Tue May 10, 2005 6:06 pm
#36

Wow, dodece altho i was a little supprised at how simple your secret was and thought...wow this guy must b ea fake...after thinking about it and reading your post, i see that you are truely trying to help the ch community...I was also thinking about switching to MBE for a little bit to see if i can't get some high ham pet deeds...is it possible to make 1 pet with 20k ham ? that would make a mean tanker pet for sure... at any rate this will likely get struk by a fix i'm sure but would be fun to have a decent pet again.


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theorb22
Tue May 10, 2005 6:11 pm
#37






Kulian wrote:

Wow, dodece altho i was a little supprised at how simple your secret was and thought...wow this guy must b ea fake...after thinking about it and reading your post, i see that you are truely trying to help the ch community...I was also thinking about switching to MBE for a little bit to see if i can't get some high ham pet deeds...is it possible to make 1 pet with 20k ham ? that would make a mean tanker pet for sure... at any rate this will likely get struk by a fix i'm sure but would be fun to have a decent pet again.


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The only thing it does is enable pets to be crafted with old DNA that will in turn produce an old pet, no DNA could ever produce a 20K HAM pet, even pre-nerf DNA just made huge level kimogilas :/.






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CritterControl
Tue May 10, 2005 9:40 pm
#38

wow that wasnt even worth reading. sorry but i have 2 swamp stalkers and 2 plains hunters that have the same ham as your pre-cu bio pet. second i found out about that oh 5 mins after playing a friends bio. sorry gonna stick with the pets i got. they get the job done and im able to take lvl 80 critters with no problems...and i dont understand at all how you couldnt have posted this when you found out. im sure if you just said "hey guys pre-cu dna makes great pets with 9k ham" all those people who flock to a profession that they think is uber wouldnt even know what ya mean or how to go about doing it.


now that i wasted my time readingthisill go play with my kick @ss wild pets and have fun while some of you cry over spending all your money and getting nothing to show for it when the bio screws up


Kitoth
Tue May 10, 2005 10:45 pm
#39

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

*sniff*

wow, thanks for the laugh.

enjoy being 'uber'.




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