Creature Handler Archive

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Drashk wrote:

I was finally able to learn, and /train the Hamstring Ability

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greywheel wrote:

Most likely levels are determined by planets. Everything I found on Naboo was level 1 and everything I found on Dantooine was level 2. Dathomir is probably level 3. After that abilities are just random. That would be the simplest and easiest way to maintain.

Now prove me wrong

The (L#) is based on the Level of the creature. Higher critters appear to have higher level specials. Its not specifically based to a planet, but the adverture planets will have high level creatures.

I knew that, I feel like an idiot.

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Cool. I am going to look for you online so you can train my huurton. My level 25 huurton gained an extra ability slot third time through training and now has 20 training points available.

For what it is worth, you cannot train the same command twice to a single pet.

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greywheel wrote:

Cool. I am going to look for you online so you can train my huurton. My level 25 huurton gained an extra ability slot third time through training and now has 20 training points available.

For what it is worth, you cannot train the same command twice to a single pet.

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Kirishi or Dralous can train your huurton....after I hit 0104 CH. Of course I'm only 0001 CH at the moment.

I got a new ability to add to the list.

Swift Fleeting. its passive and the pet is always using it. i assume it makes it go faster but didn't fully test it.

i also got Staggering Attack, but i belive its broken. you can train it, but doesn't show up in the datapad. I tried commanding it, it seems the pet did get the command but i didn't see anything that looked like it worked.

I did see Knock Down work. In fact, in a dual, it was used on me and worked. Darn that CL1 chuba. its uber. lol. i think the pet knock down is now working as intended.

Here are some of my results from Yavin IV today:

crystal snake - Panicked Rage (L2)

skreeg warrior elite - Marring Storm (L2)

giant stintaril - Marring Storm (L2)

puny gackle bat - Hamstring Attack (L2) -This, like the L1 version, is a20 second snare. Not sure how well Drashk's L1 version works, but I notice no real impact on enemy mob movement rate when this is applied. The enemy is still able to close distance with me quite rapidly. The +Snare+ flyby text seems to last for 20 seconds, though.

angler hatchling - Cowering Vigilance (L2) - Passive ability, but can't see any effect. I allowed my angler hatchling to fight to incapacitation against a higher level opponent, but the combat spam indicates it both gave and received exactly the same amount of damage from the first moment of the fight to the final blow. No change in armor absorption or discernable change in hit/miss rate visible in combat spam, either.

ravaging gackle bat - Fleet Footed (L2) - Passive. Like L1, presumably a passiveincrease to movement speed. Difficult to test this alone, though, since these creatures are too high level to call more than one at a time for a side-by-side comparison.

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Kalano wrote:

Oh man, you must have gotten that after i had to log off last night. poopy, i wanted to see that.

Is there anything about how long it took you to get that?

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It took around 4 XP cap trips for me to learn the ability.

BTW, I'll give you the spinecap that I unlocked the ability with, to see if maybe you can unlock with it as well.

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Vertexon wrote:

puny gackle bat - Hamstring Attack (L2) -This, like the L1 version, is a20 second snare. Not sure how well Drashk's L1 version works, but I notice no real impact on enemy mob movement rate when this is applied. The enemy is still able to close distance with me quite rapidly. The +Snare+ flyby text seems to last for 20 seconds, though.

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I didn't notice a huge effect with this ability either.

I'm wondering if we are seeing a trend here with tiny fliers. We thinking that maybe the tiny flier type critters are more likely to have Hamstring Attack (L#). Any MCHs on TC-Bria wanna see if they can prove/disprove this by trying to find a few higer CL small fliers to tame.

I got a kwi CL60 off of dathomir and it had Eye Gouge (L2) so I think it's the CL of pet that determines the the level of the ability and not the planet it's on.

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Drashk wrote:

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Kalano wrote:

Oh man, you must have gotten that after i had to log off last night. poopy, i wanted to see that.

Is there anything about how long it took you to get that?

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It took around 4 XP cap trips for me to learn the ability.

BTW, I'll give you the spinecap that I unlocked the ability with, to see if maybe you can unlock with it as well.

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Shadwe wrote:
I got a kwi CL60 off of dathomir and it had Eye Gouge (L2) so I think it's the CL of pet that determines the the level of the ability and not the planet it's on.

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Yes, you are correct. I knew better when I suggested the planet theory. I have begun my quest to find a L3 pet. Animals sure are tough to tame on Dathomir. Got a level 65 brackaset no problem, unfortunately it had only an L2 ability. I tried for close to an hour trying to tame a level 69 flyer, a level 69 mite and a level 70 mite. only succeeded in getting some running exercise. Well, there is always tomorrow. I really want to know the level breakdowns. I wonder if L3's will be an increased random among pets elegible for L2. Making the L3 pets and skills really valuable.

Alrighty. I've got some got more info from the grind mill.

Hope it helps to clarify some points.

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If you use the /train command, while not targeting a pet, a pop up menu comes up that will list all of the Abilities that you can /train. This menu includes a description of each Ability along with how many Training points it will cost.

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The following is the list of skills that I have, and the information that is listed in the /train box

Hamstring Attack (L1) (Triggered)
Training Cost: 14
This special attack allows your pet to reduce the movement speed of an enemy for a short period of time.

Eye Gouge(L1) (Triggered)
Training Cost: 14
This special attack allows your pet to Blind an enemy for a short period of time.

Knockdown Attack(L1) (Triggered)
Training Cost: 14
This special attack allows your pet to Knockdown an enemy for a short period of time.

StaggeringAttack(L1) (Triggered)
Training Cost: 14
This special attack allows your pet to Stunan enemy for a short period of time.

Hunted Withdrawal(L1) (Triggered)
Training Cost: --
PENDING

Imperiling Feint(L1) (Triggered)
Training Cost: --
PENDING

Guarded Stance (L1) (Triggered)
Training Cost: 8
When activated, this ability reduces the amount of damage your pet takes in combat whilereducing the amount of damage done by it's attacks.

Self-Sacrifice(L1) (Triggered)
Training Cost: 8
When activated, this ability allows a pet to intercept attacks directed at it's master taking some of the damage itself. The pet must stay close to it's master in order to defend it.

Frenzied Assault(L1) (Triggered)
Training Cost: 8
When activated, this abilityincreases the amount of damageof each attackyour pet performs at teh expense of it's defensive capabilities.

Combat Agility(L1) (Innate)
Training Cost: 5
This ability permanently gives your pet a slight chance to perform a Critical Attack in combat.

Lightning Reflexes (L1) (Innate)
Training Cost: 5
This ability permanently increases your pet's Defense.

Vigorous Health (L1) (Innate)
Training Cost: 5
This ability permanetly improves the Health of your pet.

Thick Skin(L1) (Innate)
Training Cost: 5
This ability permanetly increases your pet's Armor.

Cowering Vigilance(L1) (Innate)
Training Cost: 5
This innate ability makes your pet automatically go into a Defensive state, reducing damage taken, when it gets low on health.

Beastly Constitution(L1) (Innate)
Training Cost: 5
This ability permanent improves the Health Regeneration of your pet.

More list updates (8/1/059:00am)

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The following is a list of pet CL and how much XP is needed to 'level up' the pets maturity.

CL 1 = 1375 CL25=62575 CL49=210175
CL 2 =2200 CL26 = 67000 CL50=218200
CL 3 = 3025 CL27=71575 CL51=226375
CL 4 = 4300 CL28=76300 CL52= 234700
CL5=5575 CL29=81175 CL53=243175
CL6=7000 CL30=86200 CL54=251800
CL 7 =8575 CL31=91375 CL55= 260575
CL8=10300 CL32=96700 CL56=269500
CL9=12175 CL33=102175 CL57= 278575
CL10=14200 CL34=107800 CL58= 287800
CL 11 = 16375 CL35=113575 CL59=297175
CL 12 = 18700 CL36=119500 CL60=306700
CL 13 = 21175 CL37=125575 CL61=316375
CL 14 = 23800 CL38=131800 CL62=326200
CL15=26575 CL39=138175 CL63=336175
CL16=29500 CL40=144700 CL64=346300
CL 17 =32575 CL41=151375 CL65= 356575
CL18=35800 CL42=158200 CL66= 367000
CL19=39175 CL43=165175 CL67=377575
CL20=42700 CL44 =172300 CL68=388300
CL21=46375 CL45=179575 CL69=399175
CL22=50200 CL46=187000CL70=410200
CL23=54175 CL47=194575
CL24=58300 CL48= 202300

After each battle with a mob, your pet will gainY points of XP. This amount appears to be based on you Level, the pets CL, and the CL of the mob that you are fighting. Using your pet to take down a lair appears to give a significant amount of XP. Your pets XP is completely seperate from your own CH XP and does not appear to have any effect on your rate of gaining XP.

Updated the XP to CL ratio, to include all XP amounts

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Each time that a pet gains enough XP to reset the above listed XP amount, it will gain 7+ Training Points and possibly 1 Trainable Ability Slots. The higher the CL of the pet, the more Trainable Points that your point will gain, All CL 1 pets gain 7 Training Points. Somewhere between CL 7 and CL12, the number of Training points increase to 8.

Trainable Ability Slots are gained periodically through the course of using your pet. CL 12 and below pets appear to have a maximum of 4 Trainable Ability Slots, though further testing is needed to verify this information. It is unknown at this time how many Trainable Ability Slots a higher CL pet can have.

A system message will appear each time your pet gains either Training Points, or a Trainable Ability Slot

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In order to learn an Ability from a tamed pet, you must use the pet in combat. Typically, it appears that you must use a pet until it has hit 3 to 4 XP roll overs, before you will learn the Ability.

A system message will appear, each time you learn an ability from a pet. The name of the Ability will appear in yellow lettering on screen.

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Message Edited by Drashk on 08-01-2005 07:35 AM

Message Edited by Drashk on 08-01-2005 08:25 AM

Message Edited by Drashk on 08-01-2005 08:59 AM

CL 16 = 29500

Couple things to add.

Staggering Attack applies a Stun affect on target.

Knock Down does work. I have been knocked down in two duals, and have had the pet apply knock down.

You can train another persons pet apon these conditions:

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  You have the pet in your datapad yourself



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  You have the pet called out



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  The pet has an open ability slot



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  The pet has enough ability points



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  And you your self have learned the ability you want to teach

So, its just like the basic standard of any train as before with just some extra points needed.

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Taerryn wrote:

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The following is a list of pet CL and how much XP is needed to 'level up' the pets maturity.

CL 1 = 1375
CL 4 = 4300
CL 7 = 8575
CL 11 = 16375
CL 12 = 18700
CL 13 = 21175
CL 14 = 23800
CL 17 = 32575

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CL 16 = 29500

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CL70 = about 400k... from memory.

CL69 was about 399880, etc. anyone plot these out yet?