Community Relations Archive

It would be nice to have a comment on the state of Commando specials. We haven't heard anything about them being fixed since October 8th, and nothing was tweaked when they were pushed live.

Something about "We will be increasing the damage to be consistent with the ten second timer and 30 second cooldown" would be appreciated. As it is, they are the most worthless specials in our arsenals, and that includes the default Ranged Shot that Novice Marksman receives.

Hey, about Jedi robes... please, just let us customize the colors and have a few style options... never mind "6 months" we've been asking for that since Publish 9!

Seriously, they need a Jedi consultant on the team... well I'm your humanoid for the job!
For a long time (in a galaxy far far away) have I trained Jedi. Know what I am talking about... I do.

And thanks for trying Tiggs!

May the force be with you.

- Omadda Szool
Kauri

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Tiggs wrote:

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Sithmaser6 wrote:

Tiggs, I think a lot of the issuesin the gameat the moment could be ended with some communication and few fixes. So please address these issues for us all.

1. Lava Crystal - About 90% of the jedi community and 100% of the rp community hate it and never asked for it. I know a lot of work wet into this idea and the whole lava planet but it's out of place. Please Replace with a few of the named crystals the jedi have been asking for forever. I.E. Complete rebel get Kenobi's Legacy, complete imperial get mauls vengeance, complete neutral get quetecence of the force.

I will pass this on to the team.

2. New Snare and Avoid Incap changes have made 2 jedi master ability's useless are there plans to make these ability more useful again, or do you plan to replace them with something new, if it is something new what, please don't keep us hanging.

This was passed on to the team already.

3. Zip bars on powers need to go!!! If there are no plans to remove them now or ever please explain why and how it balances gameplay.

I will pass this on to the team.

4. Jedi have been asking for new robes for the better part of 6 months. Rather then toss us 2 cloaks with sub par stats that arn't worth getting besides for collecting, why not makes us happy and assign the old FRS robes to maser blocks. Give Knight robes to MLS, give master robes to enhancers ect. They don't even need better stats just something to help define our profession instead of the same old padawan robes. If you can't do this why?

I will pass this on to the team.

5. Force rank systeme we need an update last anyone heard you had finished a new idea and it ws submitted for approval from lucasarts. Did you see in beta the exceitment that the old frs brought back.I think most jedi would be happy to have that syteme back even broken, as it was content which is better then noithing at all, while we wait for the new systeme.

This is still being discussed.

Please Respond to our issues Tiggs

Thanks you,

-Mar-Civac

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While I know that you are mostly a communication line between the forums and the devs, thanks for being only the secondSOE person (Virrago earlier) to actually take the time today to post that you were reviewing our concerns and would pass them on to the devs.

If only the devs would choose to actually implement the changes requested by the majority of the players rather than their own weird ideas for once.

Hows about something about lightsabers and when they are going to be fixed to be brought inline with the other cl54 profession specific weapons.

Maybe the changes to snare and speed buffs are needed to keep ranged profesions viable but sure as hell they aint needed when theranged profis already out damaging, out healing and out tanking every Jedi in the game. I dont care about being 1.5 times as powerful equal would be good enough.

Thanks for the response Tiggs!!!!!

It feels good to know we are being heard at last. I know my 5 issues were more personal issues but I am sure if you read some of the other constructive post you could find a few more things to do, that would really go a long way to making this situation better. Great to know that things have been passed along, could we get a follow up tomorrow from you on what was passed along. You have done the first part correct by acknowledge our problem now give us feedback.

Thanks,

-Mar-Civac

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Tiggs wrote:

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Zoner2002 wrote:

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Tiggs wrote:

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Mach_Ine wrote:

Tiggs, TH, something you both (I think) did on the Beta forums that worked very well from my point of view was a post in the bug threads that went something like "All issues posted prior to now have been forwarded to the Development team."

If you could get authorization from the Powers That Be to do something like that in the threads that you gather issues from, it would reassure us that we are getting heard... a lot of the posts out there that I see are essentially "Why don't you acknowledge this???????" posts. Issuing posts such as the "All issues" I mentioned above would probably generate more posts along the lines of "Rock on!!!", mixed in with the inevitable "And what is the Development team going to do about it???" and "Pfft the Dev team doesn't care anyways." that are likely impossible to avoid.

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It's on the bug threads!

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Your still ignoring our concerns Tiggs, have u looked at the boards today? There is alot of unhappy people out there and I'm not just talking about the 13 year olds, Garva's post in the Jedi forums is a good place to start

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Yes, we all have been hitting the boards and gathering feedback and bugs.

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Tiggs, there is one big thread started by GarVa.
People are voicing their opinion of what is currently heading the wrong way, and most of the post are complaining about not seeing this feedback you are gathering being actually listened to, but instead the dev team having their own mind of whats good for the game, implementing their own changes without worrying about players actually liking the changes.
Instead of just gathering feedback and passing it on, please get one point across to the devs: If the majority of testing players do not like certain changes to the game, please do listen to them and do not implement them. If a player says that a change will cause less fun playing the game, it does cause less fun playing the game for him. If lots of players say this, you can assume that this statement is true, no matter what the dev team thinks.
A MMORPG lives off the players having fun playing the game. Currently players get the impression that the devs forgot this fact and are developing the game for themselves instead of developing it for the players to have fun. Maybe you can use this essay to get that point across. It is written a little sloppy, but it holds some very true points.
I would also encourage a post by a red name in GarVas thread very soon - if SOE continues to ignore its customers as Smed did in his CU post, SOE should expect to see the same symptoms that could be seen after publish 22. There are only so many bridges one can burn before sitting alone on an island.

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Tiggs wrote:

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Sithmaser6 wrote:

Tiggs, I think a lot of the issuesin the gameat the moment could be ended with some communication and few fixes. So please address these issues for us all.

1. Lava Crystal - About 90% of the jedi community and 100% of the rp community hate it and never asked for it. I know a lot of work wet into this idea and the whole lava planet but it's out of place. Please Replace with a few of the named crystals the jedi have been asking for forever. I.E. Complete rebel get Kenobi's Legacy, complete imperial get mauls vengeance, complete neutral get quetecence of the force.

I will pass this on to the team.

2. New Snare and Avoid Incap changes have made 2 jedi master ability's useless are there plans to make these ability more useful again, or do you plan to replace them with something new, if it is something new what, please don't keep us hanging.

This was passed on to the team already.

3. Zip bars on powers need to go!!! If there are no plans to remove them now or ever please explain why and how it balances gameplay.

I will pass this on to the team.

4. Jedi have been asking for new robes for the better part of 6 months. Rather then toss us 2 cloaks with sub par stats that arn't worth getting besides for collecting, why not makes us happy and assign the old FRS robes to maser blocks. Give Knight robes to MLS, give master robes to enhancers ect. They don't even need better stats just something to help define our profession instead of the same old padawan robes. If you can't do this why?

I will pass this on to the team.

5. Force rank systeme we need an update last anyone heard you had finished a new idea and it ws submitted for approval from lucasarts. Did you see in beta the exceitment that the old frs brought back.I think most jedi would be happy to have that syteme back even broken, as it was content which is better then noithing at all, while we wait for the new systeme.

This is still being discussed.

Please Respond to our issues Tiggs

Thanks you,

-Mar-Civac

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Tiggs could you also ask if Wookiees and Ithorians can gain the use of these robes?

Tiggs,

can you throw us a bone and tellus if the devs are looking into balancing snare or if nothing is to be done?

Same thing for overpowered SL?

ETA if any?

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Tiggs wrote:

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GotBlueMilk wrote:

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Tiggs wrote:

It's on the bug threads!

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No offense intended, but not yesterday it wasn't. Yesterday, publish day, when everyone's freaking out over the changes, you made a couple of posts on the bug thread in the morning about the servers being down and that was it. Seven pages, almost 200 posts, and almost 24-hours later, you posted the "these bugs have been passed along" message. I understand that publish days are very busy and tense for you, but they're tense for us too, especially when there are bugs and we can't get anyone to acknowledge them. I'm just pin-pointing aplace where just a little bit of work from you would help dispel the feeling that we're being ignored. Publish days are when we need the most communication, not the least.

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Actually I did post it in the bug thread yesterday morning (reply #37) and this morning when I went through the rest for my report.

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LOL... sorry, but that's exactly what I said you did.

You made a couple posts on the bug thread in the morning (reply #37).

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Tiggs wrote:

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Sithmaser6 wrote:

Tiggs, I think a lot of the issuesin the gameat the moment could be ended with some communication and few fixes. So please address these issues for us all.

1. Lava Crystal - About 90% of the jedi community and 100% of the rp community hate it and never asked for it. I know a lot of work wet into this idea and the whole lava planet but it's out of place. Please Replace with a few of the named crystals the jedi have been asking for forever. I.E. Complete rebel get Kenobi's Legacy, complete imperial get mauls vengeance, complete neutral get quetecence of the force.

I will pass this on to the team.

2. New Snare and Avoid Incap changes have made 2 jedi master ability's useless are there plans to make these ability more useful again, or do you plan to replace them with something new, if it is something new what, please don't keep us hanging.

This was passed on to the team already.

3. Zip bars on powers need to go!!! If there are no plans to remove them now or ever please explain why and how it balances gameplay.

I will pass this on to the team.

4. Jedi have been asking for new robes for the better part of 6 months. Rather then toss us 2 cloaks with sub par stats that arn't worth getting besides for collecting, why not makes us happy and assign the old FRS robes to maser blocks. Give Knight robes to MLS, give master robes to enhancers ect. They don't even need better stats just something to help define our profession instead of the same old padawan robes. If you can't do this why?

I will pass this on to the team.

5. Force rank systeme we need an update last anyone heard you had finished a new idea and it ws submitted for approval from lucasarts. Did you see in beta the exceitment that the old frs brought back.I think most jedi would be happy to have that syteme back even broken, as it was content which is better then noithing at all, while we wait for the new systeme.

This is still being discussed.

Please Respond to our issues Tiggs

Thanks you,

-Mar-Civac

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Well lots of stuff has been "passes along" so far and hasn't gotten any treatment so far. (Saber speed broken anyone?)
Will there actually happen anything with the stuff passed along, or is it just a term which means, okay see I post here so you won't bugger me anymore.

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Tiggs wrote:

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Mach_Ine wrote:

Tiggs, TH, something you both (I think) did on the Beta forums that worked very well from my point of view was a post in the bug threads that went something like "All issues posted prior to now have been forwarded to the Development team."

If you could get authorization from the Powers That Be to do something like that in the threads that you gather issues from, it would reassure us that we are getting heard... a lot of the posts out there that I see are essentially "Why don't you acknowledge this???????" posts. Issuing posts such as the "All issues" I mentioned above would probably generate more posts along the lines of "Rock on!!!", mixed in with the inevitable "And what is the Development team going to do about it???" and "Pfft the Dev team doesn't care anyways." thatare likely impossible to avoid.

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It's on the bug threads!

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Do bug threads even serve apurpose? How do we have reported bugs going into the game without fixes, even bugs that have been tested and recreated, and reported. I realize that some bugs slip through, they always do, but c'mon.. I don't even know basicHTML and I could catch more bugs. You should not push buggy product to live servers.

Alot of us, myself included,have been here since day one, and we've seen the downfall of this game and the massive amount of bugs are that added with each content patch you put in the game. It's never-ending.

Efforts for this money/timesink of an expansion should have been applied to current live bug fixes. You should not be creating new content, until all the old content is fixed, up to snuff, and actually decently fun.

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Tiggs wrote:

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Sithmaser6 wrote:

Tiggs, I think a lot of the issuesin the gameat the moment could be ended with some communication and few fixes. So please address these issues for us all.

1. Lava Crystal - About 90% of the jedi community and 100% of the rp community hate it and never asked for it. I know a lot of work wet into this idea and the whole lava planet but it's out of place. Please Replace with a few of the named crystals the jedi have been asking for forever. I.E. Complete rebel get Kenobi's Legacy, complete imperial get mauls vengeance, complete neutral get quetecence of the force.

I will pass this on to the team.

2. New Snare and Avoid Incap changes have made 2 jedi master ability's useless are there plans to make these ability more useful again, or do you plan to replace them with something new, if it is something new what, please don't keep us hanging.

This was passed on to the team already.

3. Zip bars on powers need to go!!! If there are no plans to remove them now or ever please explain why and how it balances gameplay.

I will pass this on to the team.

4. Jedi have been asking for new robes for the better part of 6 months. Rather then toss us 2 cloaks with sub par stats that arn't worth getting besides for collecting, why not makes us happy and assign the old FRS robes to maser blocks. Give Knight robes to MLS, give master robes to enhancers ect. They don't even need better stats just something to help define our profession instead of the same old padawan robes. If you can't do this why?

I will pass this on to the team.

5. Force rank systeme we need an update last anyone heard you had finished a new idea and it ws submitted for approval from lucasarts. Did you see in beta the exceitment that the old frs brought back.I think most jedi would be happy to have that syteme back even broken, as it was content which is better then noithing at all, while we wait for the new systeme.

This is still being discussed.

Please Respond to our issues Tiggs

Thanks you,

-Mar-Civac

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