Commando Archive
Thread: List of Possible Pre-CURB Quick Fixes
Latenighter
Wed Feb 23, 2005 5:02 pm
#53
StarNick wrote:If you notice...I did indeed leave some items off the list I sent in (btw the list I submitted to the Corr forums was exactly as I had it here)...primarily as they'll be addressed in the CU...Originally this was to be quick fixes (focusing primarily on the mods)...but since that can't be done, there really isn't much of a chance to push for larger items of interest such as grenade stacks...And I also must say...things have changed concerning the CU...Im pretty confident to say now that our Top 5 will be totally addressed...and damn, Im just blown away. Playtesting is definately required for us to all understand everything (and see in fact we'll be as good as they say)....but the CU, may in fact be the holy grail we've been waiting for....
Please understand that the community at large has no concrete information to go by. We only have your word. And we trust that. For the Top 5 to be taken care of would be great. Now we expect that.
But the lack of comment from SOE, the lack of getting any of the design on test hardware for Alpha, the lack of anyone in the community understanding WHY it's going to be good to be this or that profession or template, is beyond frustrating.
Wouldn't it be better for SOE to proclaim the "blood, sweat, tears" loudly by telling the community what's been going on, that they've expanded the scope to cover X, Y and Z?
But I've said enough.
Thanks.
StarNick
Wed Feb 23, 2005 5:05 pm
#54
I made a post about 8 days ago or so with 5 simple fixes, and it was largely ignored:
More flamer speed
More flamer accuracy
More ranged def
More melee def
More def vs kd
Actually...it wasn't. Your list was the basis for this thread 
As for the developers, its a fine line. Remember, we're just one piece in a greater puzzle...even though all of these are old issues or suggestions for fixes, does that mean they keep an entire archive of suggestions? They most likely do, but its probably too large of a list to review each and every day...
By bringing these up over and over, we try and remind the devs about them. As I said it was worth a shot, but the developers are firmly on the plan of nothing much in regards to combat until the CU.
Which my friends, is now entirely a whole different beast...it has evolved into something different from what the current CU Testers have seen. Needless to say, the SWG we see now will not be the SWG we see Post-CU. Things are heating up....we're bitter (same here) about a lot of the delays and false hopes (like the CU docs being out right after JTL...), and we're all just about in the same boat. The future however, looks bright....and with a lot of explosions. 
Latenighter
Wed Feb 23, 2005 5:16 pm
#55
StarNick wrote:CU....is now entirely a whole different beast...it has evolved into something different from what the current CU Testers have seen.
I said I had said enough. Then you write the line above.
Do you mean to say that it has changed from what the ALPHA testers have seen?
RankorCity
Wed Feb 23, 2005 5:17 pm
#56
StarNick wrote:
Actually...it wasn't. Your list was the basis for this thread
As for the developers, its a fine line. Remember, we're just one piece in a greater puzzle...even though all of these are old issues or suggestions for fixes, does that mean they keep an entire archive of suggestions? They most likely do, but its probably too large of a list to review each and every day...
By bringing these up over and over, we try and remind the devs about them. As I said it was worth a shot, but the developers are firmly on the plan of nothing much in regards to combat until the CU.
Which my friends, is now entirely a whole different beast...it has evolved into something different from what the current CU Testers have seen. Needless to say, the SWG we see now will not be the SWG we see Post-CU. Things are heating up....we're bitter (same here) about a lot of the delays and false hopes (like the CU docs being out right after JTL...), and we're all just about in the same boat. The future however, looks bright....and with a lot of explosions.
So we can expect MORE delay?
We can expect MORE silence?
I am getting past the point of being civil. I am pissed. I am angry. I am bitter.
Its not my intention to fire at you with both barrels, but as it stands you are my communication between what I think/feel/want to the people that make these decisions.
I, for the life of me...Can't figure out how some of those people keep their jobs.
If they are dead set on doing nothing, then why even waste time with a Pre-Curb "Quick Fixes" thread? It serves no purpose other than to get people's hopes up (admittedly people not exactly with an intimate nature or knowledge of history of the devs).
Message Edited by RankorCity on 02-23-2005 06:29 PM
nerfherder321
Wed Feb 23, 2005 5:59 pm
#57
doesnt matter im not old enough, even though to play the game i need parental consent and whatnot...i wish they would change that, b/c i mean...you could get consent..but they dont care enough to give it
StarNick wrote:
Remember when Aeuralis told you guys that if it wasn't for the CU Alpha testers, he wouldve suspected the CU to fail? Those changes Im refering to...and why there was that big 2 month or something delay...
We're seeing the culmination of that...and damn, the CU is better than ever. Im not insinuating that there will be a delay (hell id be pissed now if there was gonna be another, but I have a hunch there won't be)....just saying, the CU got better...
When the Beta opens up and you guys jump into it...I would suggest going inside with an open mind. From the looks of it, it'll be unlike anything we've seen yet.
StarNick
Wed Feb 23, 2005 6:25 pm
#58
Well, Beta checks the birthdate you have in your profile...you can get a SOE CSR to change it (have your parent speak to them online or via phone), and they can change it to the birthdate that is on the credit card that you use to pay for the game...
Its not too hard to change, and basically thats your parental consent...
CyberData4
Wed Feb 23, 2005 7:31 pm
#59
StarNick, have the devs been asked to simply stack the ranged weapons with the F.S. ranged speed tree properly? That alone would be of GREAT use to us commandos.
I ground out FS Ranged Speed, not for Jedi, but to have a better flamethrower. As of now, I wasted 4 skill points and a hours of my time.
StarNick
Wed Feb 23, 2005 8:15 pm
#60
Neat...cyber I think you're our first Purple-titled commando! Chilastra gained its first purple-titled community member a few hours ago...
As for Ranged FS skill mods...Ill check to see if its already been asked/answered (and probably already has)...
StarNick
Wed Feb 23, 2005 8:52 pm
#62
Basically concerning the FS range mods...nothing new in the status. The reason why this list of quick fixes were shot down still applies....everything combat related is being devoted to the CU...and for good reason (even though fixes like this would be nice)...never know, as its on their bug lists...
RankorCity
Wed Feb 23, 2005 10:08 pm
#63
StarNick wrote:
Remember when Aeuralis told you guys that if it wasn't for the CU Alpha testers, he wouldve suspected the CU to fail? Those changes Im refering to...and why there was that big 2 month or something delay...
We're seeing the culmination of that...and damn, the CU is better than ever. Im not insinuating that there will be a delay (hell id be pissed now if there was gonna be another, but I have a hunch there won't be)....just saying, the CU got better...
When the Beta opens up and you guys jump into it...I would suggest going inside with an open mind. From the looks of it, it'll be unlike anything we've seen yet.
I'll believe it when I see it...
Until then it is nothing more than speculation and conjecture.
Next Friday...March 4th. That is just about my cutoff time for info on the CU DOCS (not weapons, not armor, but buff changes...the actual **edit** docs), info on when the Alpha testing starts, and info on when Beta starts....If nothing is said by then.....I am not paying 60 bucks a month for this anymore.
There is no point.
Smoki
Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:16 am
#64
Okay, No mods... big suprise.
But it doesn't have to be a total loss...
Has anyone considered "Special Heavy Weapon PowerUps"!!!
-Smo'ki
Ravenspite
Thu Feb 24, 2005 6:28 am
#65
StarNick wrote:
Update: Basically...was shot down, and crashed....looks like y'all will have to wait for the CU folks =/
Well, thanks for at least trying StarNick, though to be honest I don't think any of the veteran Commandos here expected any differently seeing as we're used to being treated this way by SOE by now.
As it happens, I managed to get one of my Ninja Spies to lay their hands on the memo of a meeting by the Devs where they discussed your pist, and have reprinted it below for the perusal of the commando community...
StarNick Hi, I have a list of items here that the Commando's out there would like to see considered for fixing prior to the CURB.
THunderheart Why of course, we'll give them our utmost attention.
(Change of venue to random meeting room in SOE towers. Present are SOETyrant, TH and Tiggs)
Thunderheart So the commandos out there are feeling unloved
SOETyrant Commando ? what's a commando ??
Tiggs They're the heavy weapon specialists sir, the guys who start campfires.
SOETyrant Oh THEM !!, youmean someone still plays that profession ?
Tiggs It would seem so....
Thunderheart Anyway, asI was saying, they have a list of items they'd like us to consider prior to the CU
(SOETyrant sits attentively, a hush descends)
Thunderheart Firstly, they'd like to see some accuracy added to their flamethrowers
SOETyrant How much accuracy ?
Thunderheart About +30, that would take their accuracy at master to something like +140
SOETyrant Hmm, no, at that level the might be able to hit a Jedi, that would be unbalancing - denied
Thunderheart Ok *crosses item off list*, how about an increase in Flamethrowe speed instead ?
Tiggs That might help them
SOETyrant Why flamethrower ? why not grenades ?
Thunderheart Well that's on the list further down sir, they have issues with grenades too
Tiggs Did we fix the accuracy on them yet ?
Thunderheart Ummm *scans list* nope, says here they keep blowing up the commando and not the target
SOETyrant How big IS this list ??
Thunderheart *Starts counting* over 20 items your supremeness
SOETyrant *Stifles a snigger* They ARE optimistic aren't they... flamethrower speed denied, next item ?
Thunderheart Ok, they want higher...
SOETyrant *Interrupting* Higher ? nope, not raising anythingprior to the CU
ThunderheartWhat about an increase in....
SOETyrant I said nothing goes up, though we'll consider some downs
Thunderheart Well speaking of downs, they feel they're overly vulnerable to KD attacks
SOETyrant And ? Can you imaginethe carnage if they could actually stay upright long enough to fire off more than one special ??, they may actually HIT something.
Thunderheart Ok, I get the picture, nothing combat related. How about having burn damage count for loot rights ?
Tiggs Yes, thats a long standing issue of theirs.
SOETyrant Hmm, I suppose they're thinking of using this on Krayts ?
Thunderheart Possibly sir, it doesnt say here
SOETyrant Then denied, Krayts are the exclusive prey of Jedi - they need the pearls you see.
Thunderheart Next item, they're looking at getting some of the animations for their weapons fixed
SOETyrantNo way, thats a waste of valuable dev time
Wandering Dev *Has overheard the conversation and sticks his head through the door* Actually sir, thats very easy..
SOETyrant SILENCE INFIDEL... back to your hole and continue coding on our secret project
Thunderheart Thats the entire list sir, what do you want me to tell StarNick ? We havent approved any of them
SOETyrant Tell him they're unreasonable, game breaking and he referred to the CU as a "CURB", which is Flemmish for Wombat droppings - I wont tolerate such insults
Thunderheart Very well sir, and by the way, one of the Jedi on Kauri says the colour on his saber has changed, and the distraction caused him to lose a duel.
SOETyrant WHAT ?? thats's terrible, devote the dev team from the CU to fixing this problem immediately, and triple saber damage in the meantime.
*End of memo*
Druce Bayne
Message Edited by Ravenspite on 02-24-2005 05:46 AM