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Thread: Here ya go Hard Evidence that we are not PvP gods
crum033 omg ur a smart ass with no brains
the flamer was never in any way over powerd remaber that were a elit profesions and it takes 8-15 secs to be abel to do any thing after and by that time were usly ded!!!!!!
and as for there being tones of us thats not commandos folts i was a master befor u ever even looked at commandos and we come up with a way to get rid of the flame 4 ppl move flame singel 2 to master and that solev it
and ur one hit kill bs is hog wash if u ware any armor at all that has any heat res then ul never have a one hit kill grow up and lern how to play ensted of crying fro things to be nerfd
u want to c some bs here is some bull
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[Combat] 14:24:05 Current chat log file size: 407 KB
[Spatial] 14:24:21 Daniel-Judson LeonHeart says, "chaleng me"
[Spatial] 14:24:53 DeNiaL challenges you to a duel.
[Combat] 14:24:53 DeNiaL challenges you to a duel.
[Spatial] 14:25:13 You kneel.
[Combat] 14:25:13 You kneel.
[Combat] 14:25:13 You kneel.
[Spatial] 14:25:23 You accept DeNiaL's challenge.
[Combat] 14:25:23 You accept DeNiaL's challenge.
[Spatial] 14:25:24 You have been knocked down.
[Combat] 14:25:24 You have been knocked down.
[Combat] 14:25:24 DeNiaL uses Knockdown Fire on you for 402 points of damage!
[Combat] 14:25:24 Your fel-tech' Composite Armor Left Bracer armor prevented 207 points of damage.
[Spatial] 14:25:24 You feel dizzy!
[Combat] 14:25:24 You feel dizzy!
[Combat] 14:25:26 DeNiaL uses Burst Shot on you for 252 points of damage!
[Combat] 14:25:26 Your Composite Armor Helmet (61% resist) armor prevented 185 points of damage.
[Combat] 14:25:27 DeNiaL uses Burst Shot on you for 198 points of damage!
[Spatial] 14:25:29 You cannot Fire Heavy Weapon while Knocked Down.
[Combat] 14:25:29 You cannot Fire Heavy Weapon while Knocked Down.
[Spatial] 14:25:29 You cannot Feign Death while Knocked Down.
[Combat] 14:25:29 You cannot Feign Death while Knocked Down.
[Combat] 14:25:29 DeNiaL uses Burst Shot on you for 423 points of damage!
[Combat] 14:25:31 DeNiaL uses Burst Shot on you for 655 points of damage!
[Combat] 14:25:31 Your Composite Armor Helmet (61% resist) armor prevented 484 points of damage.
[Spatial] 14:25:32 You cannot Feign Death while Knocked Down.
[Combat] 14:25:32 You cannot Feign Death while Knocked Down.
[Combat] 14:25:33 DeNiaL uses Burst Shot on you for 536 points of damage!
[Combat] 14:25:33 Your Composite Armor Chest Plate (60% resist) armor prevented 268 points of damage.
[Combat] 14:25:34 DeNiaL uses Burst Shot on you for 205 points of damage!
[Combat] 14:25:34 Your Composite Armor Gloves (60% resist) armor prevented 103 points of damage.
[Combat] 14:25:36 DeNiaL uses Burst Shot on you for 207 points of damage!
[Spatial] 14:25:37 You cannot Feign Death while Knocked Down.
[Combat] 14:25:37 You cannot Feign Death while Knocked Down.
[Spatial] 14:25:38 You are so dizzy you fall down!
[Combat] 14:25:38 You are so dizzy you fall down!
[Spatial] 14:25:38 You stand up.
[Combat] 14:25:38 You stand up.
[Combat] 14:25:38 You stand up.
[Spatial] 14:25:38 You are so dizzy you fall down!
[Combat] 14:25:38 You are so dizzy you fall down!
[Combat] 14:25:38 You are so dizzy you fall down when you try to change posture!
[Combat] 14:25:38 You are so dizzy you fall down when you try to change posture!
[Spatial] 14:25:38 You cannot Feign Death while Knocked Down.
[Combat] 14:25:38 You cannot Feign Death while Knocked Down.
[Combat] 14:25:38 DeNiaL uses Burst Shot on you for 502 points of damage!
[Spatial] 14:25:39 You cannot Feign Death while Knocked Down.
[Combat] 14:25:39 You cannot Feign Death while Knocked Down.
[Spatial] 14:25:39 You cannot Feign Death while Knocked Down.
[Combat] 14:25:39 You cannot Feign Death while Knocked Down.
[Combat] 14:25:40 DeNiaL uses Burst Shot on you for 347 points of damage!
[Combat] 14:25:40 Your Composite Armor Helmet (61% resist) armor prevented 256 points of damage.
[Spatial] 14:25:41 You cannot Feign Death while Knocked Down.
[Combat] 14:25:41 You cannot Feign Death while Knocked Down.
[Spatial] 14:25:41 You cannot Feign Death while Knocked Down.
[Combat] 14:25:41 You cannot Feign Death while Knocked Down.
[Spatial] 14:25:42 You have been incapacitated by DeNiaL.
[Combat] 14:25:42 You have been incapacitated by DeNiaL.
[Combat] 14:25:42 DeNiaL uses Burst Shot on you for 795 points of damage!
[Spatial] 14:25:43 You cannot Feign Death while Incapacitated.
[Combat] 14:25:43 You cannot Feign Death while Incapacitated.
[Spatial] 14:25:43 You cannot Feign Death while Incapacitated.
[Combat] 14:25:43 You cannot Feign Death while Incapacitated.
[Spatial] 14:25:43 You cannot Feign Death while Incapacitated.
[Combat] 14:25:43 You cannot Feign Death while Incapacitated.
[Spatial] 14:25:44 You cannot Feign Death while Incapacitated.
[Combat] 14:25:44 You cannot Feign Death while Incapacitated.
[Spatial] 14:25:45 You cannot Feign Death while Incapacitated.
[Combat] 14:25:45 You cannot Feign Death while Incapacitated.
[Spatial] 14:25:55 You were slain by DeNiaL. Requesting clone activation...
[Combat] 14:25:55 You were slain by DeNiaL. Requesting clone activation...
[Spatial] 14:25:55 You have lost 10 points of Rebel faction standing!
[Combat] 14:25:55 You have lost 10 points of Rebel faction standing!
[Spatial] 14:26:30 Ilodiha Loce (a commoner) says, "Can I help you?"
[Spatial] 14:27:19 No corpse was produced for you, since you did not have anything to leave behind.
[Combat] 14:27:19 No corpse was produced for you, since you did not have anything to leave behind.
[Spatial] 14:27:20 You stand up.
[Combat] 14:27:20 You stand up.
[Combat] 14:27:20 You stand up.
[Combat] 14:30:04 Chat logging ON
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[Spatial] 14:30:18 You accept DeNiaL's challenge.
[Combat] 14:30:18 You accept DeNiaL's challenge.
[Combat] 14:30:18 You use Low Blow on DeNiaL for 106 points of damage!
[Combat] 14:30:20 DeNiaL stands up.
[Combat] 14:30:22 Your particle beam misses DeNiaL.
[Spatial] 14:30:23 You have been knocked down.
[Combat] 14:30:23 You have been knocked down.
[Combat] 14:30:23 DeNiaL uses Knockdown Fire on you for 331 points of damage!
[Combat] 14:30:24 Your Composite Armor Right Bracer (60% resist) armor prevented 167 points of damage.
[Spatial] 14:30:24 You feel dizzy!
[Combat] 14:30:24 You feel dizzy!
[Spatial] 14:30:24 You are so dizzy you fall down!
[Combat] 14:30:24 You are so dizzy you fall down!
[Spatial] 14:30:24 You are so dizzy you fall down!
[Combat] 14:30:24 You are so dizzy you fall down!
[Combat] 14:30:24 You are so dizzy you fall down when you try to change posture!
[Combat] 14:30:24 You are so dizzy you fall down when you try to change posture!
[Combat] 14:30:25 DeNiaL uses Knockdown Fire on you for 373 points of damage!
[Combat] 14:30:25 Your Composite Armor Helmet (61% resist) armor prevented 274 points of damage.
[Spatial] 14:30:25 You feel dizzy!
[Combat] 14:30:25 You feel dizzy!
[Spatial] 14:30:27 You stand up.
[Combat] 14:30:27 You stand up.
[Spatial] 14:30:27 You are so dizzy you fall down!
[Combat] 14:30:27 You are so dizzy you fall down!
[Combat] 14:30:27 You are so dizzy you fall down when you try to change posture!
[Combat] 14:30:27 DeNiaL uses Burst Shot on you for 214 points of damage!
[Combat] 14:30:27 Your Composite Armor Left Bicep (61% resist) armor prevented 110 points of damage.
[Spatial] 14:30:28 You are so dizzy you fall down!
[Combat] 14:30:28 You are so dizzy you fall down!
[Combat] 14:30:28 You are so dizzy you fall down when you try to change posture!
[Combat] 14:30:29 DeNiaL uses Burst Shot on you for 661 points of damage!
[Combat] 14:30:29 Your fel-tech' Composite Armor Boots armor prevented 223 points of damage.
[Spatial] 14:30:29 You cannot Low Blow while Knocked Down.
[Combat] 14:30:29 You cannot Low Blow while Knocked Down.
[Spatial] 14:30:29 You cannot Low Blow while Knocked Down.
[Combat] 14:30:29 You cannot Low Blow while Knocked Down.
[Spatial] 14:30:30 You are so dizzy you fall down!
[Combat] 14:30:30 You are so dizzy you fall down!
[Combat] 14:30:30 You are so dizzy you fall down when you try to change posture!
[Combat] 14:30:31 DeNiaL uses Burst Shot on you for 163 points of damage!
[Combat] 14:30:31 Your Composite Armor Helmet (61% resist) armor prevented 121 points of damage.
[Spatial] 14:30:32 You cannot Feign Death while Knocked Down.
[Combat] 14:30:32 You cannot Feign Death while Knocked Down.
[Combat] 14:30:32 DeNiaL uses Burst Shot on you for 158 points of damage!
[Spatial] 14:30:34 You are so dizzy you fall down!
[Combat] 14:30:34 You are so dizzy you fall down!
[Spatial] 14:30:34 You have been incapacitated by DeNiaL.
[Combat] 14:30:34 You have been incapacitated by DeNiaL.
[Combat] 14:30:34 You are so dizzy you fall down when you try to change posture!
[Combat] 14:30:34 DeNiaL uses Burst Shot on you for 501 points of damage!
[Combat] 14:30:34 Your fel-tech' Composite Armor Boots armor prevented 169 points of damage.
[Spatial] 14:30:35 You cannot Stand while Incapacitated.
[Combat] 14:30:35 You cannot Stand while Incapacitated.
[Spatial] 14:30:35 You cannot Feign Death while Incapacitated.
[Combat] 14:30:35 You cannot Feign Death while Incapacitated.
[Spatial] 14:30:35 You cannot Stand while Incapacitated.
[Combat] 14:30:35 You cannot Stand while Incapacitated.
[Spatial] 14:30:35 You cannot Feign Death while Incapacitated.
[Combat] 14:30:35 You cannot Feign Death while Incapacitated.
[Combat] 14:30:36 ***molar is online at Sat Oct 18 14:30:36 2003.
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[Spatial] 14:30:42 You were slain by DeNiaL. Requesting clone activation...
[Combat] 14:30:42 You were slain by DeNiaL. Requesting clone activation...
[Spatial] 14:30:42 You have lost 19 points of Rebel faction standing!
[Combat] 14:30:42 You have lost 19 points of Rebel faction standing!
[Combat] 14:35:28 Chat logging ON
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[Spatial] 14:35:34 apeboy says, "i jsut need a hight lvl one"
[Spatial] 14:35:40 You accept DeNiaL's challenge.
[Combat] 14:35:40 You accept DeNiaL's challenge.
[Spatial] 14:35:41 Your attack failed to knock down your target.
[Combat] 14:35:41 Your attack failed to knock down your target.
[Combat] 14:35:41 You use Low Blow on DeNiaL for 89 points of damage!
[Combat] 14:35:41 DeNiaL shoots at you and hits for 57 points of damage.
[Combat] 14:35:41 Your Composite Armor Gloves (60% resist) armor prevented 29 points of damage.
[Spatial] 14:35:42 Rayo yells, "Can anyone TEACH me Creature TRAINING IV ?" in Shyriiwook.
[Spatial] 14:35:42 You have been knocked down.
[Combat] 14:35:42 You have been knocked down.
[Combat] 14:35:42 DeNiaL uses Knockdown Fire on you for 77 points of damage!
[Combat] 14:35:42 Your fel-tech' Composite Armor Boots armor prevented 27 points of damage.
[Spatial] 14:35:42 You feel dizzy!
[Combat] 14:35:42 You feel dizzy!
[Combat] 14:35:44 DeNiaL shoots at you and hits for 145 points of damage.
[Combat] 14:35:45 DeNiaL uses Burst Shot on you for 505 points of damage!
[Combat] 14:35:46 DeNiaL uses Burst Shot on you for 743 points of damage!
[Combat] 14:35:46 Your Composite Armor Right Bracer (60% resist) armor prevented 371 points of damage.
[Spatial] 14:35:47 You are so dizzy you fall down!
[Combat] 14:35:47 You are so dizzy you fall down!
[Combat] 14:35:47 You are so dizzy you fall down when you try to change posture!
[Combat] 14:35:48 DeNiaL's Burst Shot misses you.
[Spatial] 14:35:49 You cannot Low Blow while Knocked Down.
[Combat] 14:35:49 You cannot Low Blow while Knocked Down.
[Spatial] 14:35:49 You cannot Low Blow while Knocked Down.
[Combat] 14:35:49 You cannot Low Blow while Knocked Down.
[Spatial] 14:35:49 You cannot Flame Single 2 while Knocked Down.
[Combat] 14:35:49 You cannot Flame Single 2 while Knocked Down.
[Spatial] 14:35:50 You are so dizzy you fall down!
[Combat] 14:35:50 You are so dizzy you fall down!
[Combat] 14:35:50 You are so dizzy you fall down when you try to change posture!
[Combat] 14:35:50 DeNiaL uses Burst Shot on you for 342 points of damage!
[Combat] 14:35:51 DeNiaL uses Burst Shot on you for 549 points of damage!
[Combat] 14:35:51 Your Composite Armor Gloves (60% resist) armor prevented 273 points of damage.
[Spatial] 14:35:52 You are so dizzy you fall down!
[Combat] 14:35:52 You are so dizzy you fall down!
[Combat] 14:35:52 You are so dizzy you fall down when you try to change posture!
[Spatial] 14:35:52 BronX Immortal says, "home"
[Spatial] 14:35:53 You are so dizzy you fall down!
[Combat] 14:35:53 You are so dizzy you fall down!
[Combat] 14:35:53 You are so dizzy you fall down when you try to change posture!
[Spatial] 14:35:53 You have been incapacitated by DeNiaL.
[Combat] 14:35:53 You have been incapacitated by DeNiaL.
[Combat] 14:35:53 DeNiaL uses Burst Shot on you for 519 points of damage!
[Combat] 14:35:53 Your fel-tech' Composite Armor Boots armor prevented 176 points of damage.
[Spatial] 14:35:54 You cannot Kneel while Incapacitated.
[Combat] 14:35:54 You cannot Kneel while Incapacitated.
[Spatial] 14:35:54 Alas'Ecri Osoh says, "lol"
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i tryed evry thing on him could not win always stuck to the ground bull
if were over powerd then hes more then over powerd hes a god he took 5 rebels at onec im sory i dint get that loged
Ivoni wrote:
So Crum, you are saying that I'm and overpowered PVP god with my one shot special that can only be used within 16m or less AND if used cannot be used again for eight seconds AND does not target a specific HAM.
By saying this you completely disregarded all the other info provided.
Like Carbine Knocking you down and keeping you down from 64m.
Or Pistoleer Killing Me in 3 seconds from 64m. Granted he was also a master bh, but the DMG is the same.
Or a Bounty Hunter killing me in 3 seconds.
Did you want me to test this versus Armor where said damage is cut in half? Yeah 1/2 damage because of armor PLUS whatever their resists are.
I would, but you see, the point of this test was BEST CASE scenario. I.E. Masters of a class versus a non moving standing object while not moving themselves.
It wouldn't matter to you however, because no matter the hard case numbers you'll doggedly hold on to the fact that yes...we can dish out 1284 damage with one shot with our special.
Oh, nevermind the fact that without our special it takes 24 seconds and we miss...A LOT.
Please bring some hard case evidence to this discussion justifying your position.
As it stands, I have proven mine. We don't dish out the most, the fastest UNLESS pointblank AND we don't miss AND they aren't wearing armor.
Commando is not a PvP god.
They are merely the god of the one shot.
You missed my point entirely. I didn't say the class was too good at all. I was pointing out it's good points as a matter of fact. I'm tired of seeing commandos cry and lament how bad their class is, when in fact they just don't want to learn to use tactics. Life isn't as simple as just spamming flame single 2 anymore, and most commandos would rather cry about how their class 'sucks' than deal with it.
I think commando is a fair class now (well, at least when they reduce the dot).
Crum
By saying this you completely disregarded all the other info provided.
Like Carbine Knocking you down and keeping you down from 64m.
Or Pistoleer Killing Me in 3 seconds from 64m. Granted he was also a master bh, but the DMG is the same.
Or a Bounty Hunter killing me in 3 seconds.
Did you want me to test this versus Armor where said damage is cut in half? Yeah 1/2 damage because of armor PLUS whatever their resists are.
I would, but you see, the point of this test was BEST CASE scenario. I.E. Masters of a class versus a non moving standing object while not moving themselves.
It wouldn't matter to you however, because no matter the hard case numbers you'll doggedly hold on to the fact that yes...we can dish out 1284 damage with one shot with our special.
Oh, nevermind the fact that without our special it takes 24 seconds and we miss...A LOT.
Please bring some hard case evidence to this discussion justifying your position.
As it stands, I have proven mine. We don't dish out the most, the fastest UNLESS pointblank AND we don't miss AND they aren't wearing armor.
Commando is not a PvP god.
They are merely the god of the one shot.
I have done a short evaluation of the combat Log i posted and would like to share my finds:
DLT20a Kneeling at ideal range against an immobile unarmored target:
319.71 DPS
Flamethrower Standing at 15m against a mobile unarmored target:
82.62 DPS (without DoT) ; 260.11 (including DoT)
DLT20a standing at 45m against a mobile armored target:
221.38 DPS
Max DPS for Flamethrower (including DoT) by stacking all Flame attacks: 303.86
Max DPS for DLT20a: 319.71
seeing this, it is evident, the a Rifleman beats the damageoutput of a Commando even Using a basic Rifle.
Stats of the weapons involved:
DLT20a:
Spd: 5.2
Dmg: 143-301 (using a +32% max damage powerup)
Flamethrower:
Spd: 4.8
Dmg: 512-1022
Dogg
Actualy as i said before I can count on thefingers of one hand the # oftimes where the flame DoT has been a factor in duels or PvP for me. Usualy my enemies either have a Doc with them or are a Docs themselves... particularly after the removal of the revenge TEF. So wounds don't matter to them and neither does the damage. And fighting is over so fast that if I lose they usualy have not even taken a single tick of the DoT.
Or... some times I win and kill them in which case they have no flame DoT.
The DoT needs to take armor into consideration as well as resistances of the target. So does every other Damge Over Time in the game. Otherwise it is fine as it is. Wounds are a fact of life... 2 classes have the ability ot dish out wounds. It's like knockdown or delay shots... you don't have to like it but don't expect it to be eliminated from the game just becuase you dislike it. Maybe it will be changed but I really don't think a change is needed.
Also we are lamenting the fract that we have some serious issues in PvE combat that need adressing. This thread is not about that. It is about the fact that we tendto die a lot in PvP combat. If you can't stick to that subject then consider the following. Last tiem I checked the only really efficent way to gain heavy weapons exp is to use a heavy weapon in PvE. If we are infact unable to kill things that are blue to us in PvE without frequently dying then it is entierly likely there is a serious flaw in our class or the entire con system is broken. We are opting for thefirst option since every one else seems to be doing fine. OK sure we could use the launcher pistol, but getting that much heavy weapon exp woth the launcher would be very time consuming. (and pointless...I didn't take the class so I cna master weapons that I never equip...) Trust me... I did it beforethe patch that fixed heavy weapons and it was no fun. Also it gives you a good bit of pistol exp instead of launcher exp...not exactly what I need as a TKA/Commando.
Telling us that attacking kreedles with a flame thrower is foolish is just being inflamitory. (pardon the pun.) May as well tell Pikemen who complain that they should use unarmed instead of polearms... or architects who complain about having ot get structure exp to use general crafting instead.
Believe it or not some of us actualy use the tactics (and even some of the catagory above tactics called stratagy) and still find there is a problem with master commandos being incapped several times in the same half hour by womp rats. Just a thought for you to contemplate.
Aasch Housewares
"Groovy."
You know, after using all this skill points to be beaten easily in a duel by someone with 158 skill points free compared to my 77.
The only thing good we have going for us is the power of our dot which disregards resists (which it shouldn't).
Other than that. That's pretty much it.
Har is broken and requires more than just speed/accuracy fixes.
AP bonuses are broken so heavy weapons don't do they extra damage they should.
LP is useless without Pistoleer/Smuggler for specials.
We soon look to be getting better defenses and accuracy with flame/har/grenades for master commando on test but that's only accuracy. Not speed.
Bah. Maybe things will get better.
Can only hope.
Fact is Ivoni,
Dabblers atm par or are better than Masters. That is just how this game works right now. It is not just commando's its the whole system.
GrandAdmiralF:
Why he uses Flushing volley:
Lower HAM costs than StrafeShot2. AE. Stun effect (delays enemy action). Optimal combination would be FlushigShot2 (stun AE) and StartleShots2 (posture Change AE). Both deal about the same damage and have about the same HAM costs in specials.
If you ever used StrafeShot2 and a T21 you know what i mean by HAM costs. Simply watch your mind drop like clay pigeon.
Dogg
First, Kudos to Ivani. A graphic representation of what we've all been trying to say is a perfect arguement.
For Ivani's detractors concerning FlameCone2 and FlameSingle2? A bit of armor and it is -not- a one shot kill, ever. In PVP its seldom even a one-shot -hit-
When you do hit, its an armageddon clock.
Is what a Proton grenade should be.
To paraphrase Robert Heinlin's Starship Troopers...
"I'm a thirty second bomb! I'm a thirty second bomb! 29..28..."
I'd like to make a few more points.
Unarmed combat with no vibro knucks: Time to complete? Weeks.
Master Scout?
It is to laugh. I have to guildmembers who did it in no time flat. Apparently you can use wire trap multiple times or over-ride previous traps with new traps. So trapping XP can be gotten over and over by doing power-down effects on a worrt.
Camping can be done in a short period of time by simply putting down camps with folks around you, waiting, and picking them up.
Hunt and Explore are gotten merely from harvesting.. which is second nature anyway.
Though MAster Scout costs more skill points it is -much- easier to get. It has very little to do with PVP combat. Yet it leads to a 'more powerful' combat class.
The single class with the most combat needed to acheive? Commando. Master MArksman and Unarmed specialist makes it hands down the most combat oriented class as far as prereqs.
Yet a Bounty Hunter, who's lot in life is to hunt single people down and kill them? Who's prereqs are Master MArksman and MAster Scout (Scout for investigation. No PVP combat involved in scout anywhere) constantly and consistantly outperforms a Commando? It makes no sense.
I, with a flamethrower have to get within 16m to set someone on fire.
A BH can do it at max range with torsoe shot.
I, the combat specialist, can't target any specific HAM pool. The BH can specifically target two with their weaponry. Any other weponspecialist can with their weaponry.
Why have I spent over 2 million havy weapon XP when heavy weapons are proving to be everything but heavy?
Why are commandos constantly harangued with -perceived- imbalance when the real imbalance lies (quite obviously) elsewhere.
Commando needs more loving. Plain and simple.
It is -very- obvious that the Commando class was just thrown together in the last few minutes of beta... which it was. I specifically said (And was quoted by the devs) That I didnt think the game was ready for release but had preordered three copies.. one for myself, my brother and the last for a freind...
Commando still hasnt had enough attention paid to it. And making holocrons so people stop being commandos and wander off to be Image Designers sint really gonna help things.
You're a good team. Very good. I simply don't understand why this still hasnt been addressed.
We need more information as to why Commando issues are consistantly on the backburner. As far as I know we're the only class where our specialty titles make no sense.
Why are our special moves on timers when the BH special moves are not?
Fan shot hits multiple targets... why is it not on a timer?
Why do 'so called' heavy weapons do consistantly less damage than the regular ones?
You want to jimy around and muck about with sneaking here and there and assassinating someone? BH.
You want to kill an ATAT and its cadre of supporters? Commando.
Thats the way its always been in the Star Wars Universe.
Anyway.. I'm tired and ranting. Ineed sleep. Ciao
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obsidiandawn sed
Commando still hasnt had enough attention paid to it. And making holocrons so people stop being commandos and wander off to be Image Designers sint really gonna help things.
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i agree with u 100% i had to lave commando all to gather to grap some stupid musician i hate it its not right i always thought that u had to do some many quest and things to get a fs but no u have to do this bah ass gay i tell ya
and yes were gimpd really gimped im waching a carbiner bumb out 3x the dam we do and spam 1 hit kills from 64 m away right now 
i tell u its not fare {it ant so bad becous hes a reb and doing it to the imps but ...}
ya we have a nasty dot but it dont matter much when some ones 64 m away skirting you and u cant hit them at all unless u use a hw wich cost mony and usly dont hit and if it dose wont always incap them so they just heal and laugh at u useing it
InquisitorPayne wrote:
GrandAdmiralF:
Why he uses Flushing volley:
Lower HAM costs than StrafeShot2. AE. Stun effect (delays enemy action). Optimal combination would be FlushigShot2 (stun AE) and StartleShots2 (posture Change AE). Both deal about the same damage and have about the same HAM costs in specials.
If you ever used StrafeShot2 and a T21 you know what i mean by HAM costs. Simply watch your mind drop like clay pigeon.
Dogg
Actually, flushing shot 2, startle shot 2, flurry shot 2 and strafe shot 2 all cost the same amount of HAM, I used all 4 shots just a while ago to make sure and everytime i got a-135 over my head using the same rifle. And yeah HAM cost on T21 is steep