Commando Archive

Message Edited by DayWalkerRori on 04-24-2004 02:59 PM

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RazerWolf wrote:
Okay, Swordsman has Blast too. But RANGED blast is the Commando niche. TH told us specifically that no other class would get a ranged Blast attack, and now it seems that the devs were outright lying to us, if these droids are indeed blast. And ya know what? We're pissed off.

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Nice one Garvin

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Daker-Naritus wrote:

You know garvin this REALLY pisses me off...

Bounty hunters spend 217 skill points and get:

Bleeding Shot (Bleed)
Confusion Shot (Stun/Dizzy)
Eye Shot (Blind)
Fast Blast
Fire Knockdown (Knockdown)
Lightning Cone 1 and 2
Lightning Single 1 and 2
Spray Shot (Stun/Dizzy/Blind)
Torso Shot (On Fire)
Underhand Shot (Knockdown)

Scatter Pistol

Lightening Rifle

Smugglers spend 126 skill points and get:

Feign Death (This is HUGE)
Last Ditch
Low Blow (Knockdown)
Panic Shot (Delay)

Ok so BHs and Smugglers have the best pvp moves in the game, theyOWN in pvp, and now they need MORE combat power in the form of 10000 damage droid that blow up and cause MORE damage than even our rocket launchers can? What the hell! Those classes have combat power that we can only dream of...

We spend 169 skill points (20% less than BH and 20% more than smuggler), we are 10 TIMES as broken as those classes, and and get nothing more than:

Acid Cone 1 and 2 (Broken Weapon)
Acid Single 1 and 2 (Broken Weapon)
Flame Cone 1 and 2 (Dot)
Flame Single 1 and 2 (Dot)

Grenades (Broken and worthless)

Rocket Launchers (Broken, inaccurate,and too expensive to use)

Not to mention the fact that these new 10000 damage droids just became the new "heavy weapons experts" of the game. Why would anyone need a commando (who will miss 90% of the time and has to be in turret range to attack) when you could send in a droid to kill the turret.

I am freaking APPAULED at how wrong this is. I don't know what kind of poop slinging monkeys are running this damn thing, but they are dumb as rocks and couldn't identify balance if it punched them in the nose. Sheesh!

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The only thing I will say on this is that Bounty Hunters need love just as much as we do...Yes...they can own us in PvP, but that doesn't make them perfect...they cost more skill points then us and we shouldn't invalidate their issues if we expect them to respect ours...

My posting these results was not to call for a nerf of the BH community in anyway, but to say that a weapon is coming into the game that is unbalanced and exploitable...

BH's need love, but giving them an exploitable weapon will lead to flames against the BH community (an example of what's to come can be seen right here)...We should support other communities, not tear them down...but at the same time, we must call a duck a duck and point out when something coming into the game in unbalanced...

We never asked for this...We would have had FIXES rather than Costly toys but, The fact is they gave it to us

Now, look..There not even live yet and OMG the BHs will be overpowered..Im sure the Smugglers will feel the blunt to this too but, not in the degree that BHs will...We hunt Jedi and this is a fight waiting to happen

Fact is BHs Live/Play Pissed Off and where used to all the Crap that goes with NEthing we get...Fact is Nething we get Everyone wants/gets or well just complain till its so bad who the **Edit** would want it....We pushed for Commandos to get a Cert too...It didnt happen and where sry but, thats all we are....At the state our profession is in well take NE damn thing we can get and all that comes with it..Where used to crying and Bitching

As far as what youll think of Tanks....I would expect him to be standing up for us in NE matter he sees fit.....For you to start Nerf Crys before it ever hit live and some of the Numb Nuts posting in this has left me no pitty on the Commando Profession...My 1st Profession was Commando (It was a Hell of alot worse off than it is now BTW) So, dont come crying Oh Commando this Commando that...I had respect for Commando till the past 2 days and they acted like some of the other Kids that post on these forums **Cough** Jedi **Cough**

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garvin wrote:

The only thing I will say on this is that Bounty Hunters need love just as much as we do...Yes...they can own us in PvP, but that doesn't make them perfect...they cost more skill points then us and we shouldn't invalidate their issues if we expect them to respect ours...

My posting these results was not to call for a nerf of the BH community in anyway, but to say that a weapon is coming into the game that is unbalanced and exploitable...

BH's need love, but giving them an exploitable weapon will lead to flames against the BH community (an example of what's to come can be seen right here)...We should support other communities, not tear them down...but at the same time, we must call a duck a duck and point out when something coming into the game in unbalanced...

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Oh I agree about the love...every class, including BH, needs love in one way or another.I havesaid nothing (intentionally) to imply differently. I had 3 points:

(1) Looking that the number of special abilities (including varied status effects)and damage types that BHs and Smugglers have at their disposal, and the very few that we have (including only a heat DOT, a blast pistol with no mods or specials, andand a bunch of broken grenades and rocket launchers that are essentially worthless), we need weapon type love before BHs do. Why has EVERY combat class in the game gotten a new weapon in the last 2 patches before our existing (and numerous according to the devs)weapons are even fixed?

(2) That giving BHs and Smugglers blast damage is not the "love" they need. What do these classes have to do with destroying turrets and AT-STs?

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(3) That giving BHs and Smugglers blast damage is a HUGE nerf to us, because our only purpose will now be chare with two classes that can do 7000 to 10000 damage with cheap droids, thereby doing more blast damage and cheaper blast damage than commandos, the "blast/demolition experts."

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Daker-Naritus wrote:

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garvin wrote:

The only thing I will say on this is that Bounty Hunters need love just as much as we do...Yes...they can own us in PvP, but that doesn't make them perfect...they cost more skill points then us and we shouldn't invalidate their issues if we expect them to respect ours...

My posting these results was not to call for a nerf of the BH community in anyway, but to say that a weapon is coming into the game that is unbalanced and exploitable...

BH's need love, but giving them an exploitable weapon will lead to flames against the BH community (an example of what's to come can be seen right here)...We should support other communities, not tear them down...but at the same time, we must call a duck a duck and point out when something coming into the game in unbalanced...

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Oh I agree about the love...every class, including BH, needs love in one way or another.I havesaid nothing (intentionally) to imply differently. I had 3 points:

(1) Looking that the number of special abilities (including varied status effects)and damage types that BHs and Smugglers have at their disposal, and the very few that we have (including only a heat DOT, a blast pistol with no mods or specials, andand a bunch of broken grenades and rocket launchers that are essentially worthless), we need weapon type love before BHs do. Why has EVERY combat class in the game gotten a new weapon in the last 2 patches before our existing (and numerous according to the devs)weapons are even fixed?

(2) That giving BHs and Smugglers blast damage is not the "love" they need. What do these classes have to do with destroying turrets and AT-STs?

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(3) That giving BHs and Smugglers blast damage is a HUGE nerf to us, because our only purpose will now be chare with two classes that can do 7000 to 10000 damage with cheap droids, thereby doing more blast damage and cheaper blast damage than commandos, the "blast/demolition experts."

I wasn't saying that BH was underpowered or needed to be nerfed. However, I was saying that these droid bombs are not the "fix" that BHs and smugglers need, and are a huge nerf to the commandos. That is the duck...and that duck sucks.

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If it wasnt Blast it would be something elese......

You looking for Logic?? whats more logical a Driod blowing up (Blast Dmg) or someone walking around with a Hammer doing it??

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DayWalkerRori wrote:

So, dont come crying Oh Commando this Commando that...

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Come where? You are in the Commando forums, big boy... You don't like it, go back to the BH forums and flaunt your "NEthing" "OMG" "sry" leet dood crap there.

Fact is, this change is a huge, detrimental blow to the commando profession, and we are going to work to get it fixed in one way or another, regardless of how much you troll and post negative things about us here and in the BH forums (and yes...I did see your little mockerythreadin the BH forumsyou 6-year old imbecile).

Either propose constructive compromises, or go bother your mother about how unreasonable the commandos are being. I'm sure she will listen to you well before I will...