Commando Archive
Thread: What the point to Commando anymore ?
StabMastah
Sat May 07, 2005 11:45 pm
#40
" You know I actually "kiled" the same level 20 rebel npc tonight about 10 times? I would hit him with a special, he would fall down, then get right back up as if I couldnt finish him off. this was with a 1k max damage plasma thrower! Now go ahead, say something like "U SUK" or "U DUNT NO HOW 2 PLAY COMNDO" when I know full damn well how to play a commando. Its no different or "special" then marksman. "
lol I like to call this the Zombie Bug. I was playing arround with a FT outside coronet, in one of those heavy Meatlump spawns, using the Carbineer AOE attack. Killed 5 of them in one shot. Like a minute later all five of the " dead " ones stood up and starting coming at me. I was totally freaked out lol.
Stupid bug.. but keeps one on his toes eh ?
Stupmster
Sun May 08, 2005 12:17 am
#41
StabMastah wrote:
Commando was also a serious force in PVP.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! am i the only one who found that absolutely hilarious?!
Palad
Sun May 08, 2005 12:31 am
#42
Reydon wrote:
Also, I say you suck because you say "Oh no! I cant use my flamer around 20 units! What ever will I do?" You use ANOTHER GUN. Jesus christ, it isnt that hard to switch from the flamer. Commando is for fighting mass (or should be, once this aoe bug leaves), not singles in a group.
Use another gun, you mean a non commando gun? Thrus you have to switch to something OUTSIDE of commando? THRUS COMMANDO INDEED SUCKS IF YOU HAVE TO SUPLIMENT SOMETHING ELSE FOR IT!! Being a freaking fanboi of the class does not make it good, or improve its situation. And please explain to me how eveyrone has these ungodly dots and weapons. were they perchased post CU or before it?
Reydon
Sun May 08, 2005 4:06 am
#43
"Ok first, if you honestly attach yourself to a general statment like "Commando is a sucky stand alone profession" and think its a personal insult, its time to go outside and take a break from the game."
"That was the last straw. Good riddance Commando. You have no role in the game. You are outclassed by EVERY ranged profession. Against any melee stacker you will get your ass beat. Commando, you totally suck."
I take that as a personal insult, yes. He says that my prof of 500+ days shouldnt be cared for, has no purpose, is weaker then everything, can get destroyed, and that we all totally Suck. I am a commando. He says Commando, you totally suck. He said, I totally suck. Plain and simple.
Second: Commando has been nerfed for a long time. I remember when, like said above, the bars turned black when you went against a commando. That wasnt the case after our nerf. But now the CU brings a lot more to Commando. It makes us worth something again, and now you all are flaming it. You have no right to continue whining about how much commando sucks, even after we are finally upgraded to something worth something.
"You know I actually "kiled" the same level 20 rebel npc tonight about 10 times? I would hit him with a special, he would fall down, then get right back up as if I couldnt finish him off. this was with a 1k max damage plasma thrower!"
Good. It is good that you can kill someone. I have so far said you suck to the people who are nonstop complaining about weak dots etc. As for the "you suk" and such, point me to one quote of my language that makes you think I would ever write like this : you sux0rs n00bs, @11 u @11 suks. Show me one place where I butchered the english language into computer slang ofthat much an extreme.
My main problem with all this is, we get a boost up, after waiting so long, and you all are still whining. Jesus christ, it is like crying at christmas because you didnt get all you want. Be happy you got something.
Also Knight, I never said you sucked, because you havent been here whining about commando. You think they suck, everyone can say that if they like. But my problem is when people make threads just for the soul purpose of whining.
Message Edited by Reydon on 05-08-2005 07:19 AM
Reydon
Sun May 08, 2005 4:16 am
#44
"lol I like to call this the Zombie Bug. I was playing arround with a FT outside coronet, in one of those heavy Meatlump spawns, using the Carbineer AOE attack. Killed 5 of them in one shot. Like a minute later all five of the " dead " ones stood up and starting coming at me. I was totally freaked out lol."
That is odd isnt it? lol. I've shot the zombies 2 times and they still didnt fall. Wierd.
StarNick
Sun May 08, 2005 8:37 am
#45
Hey guys just a note...we're facing a very very nasty bug at the moment. Our weapons are intended to do nasty AoE up to the point where it'll be a necessity to control our damage rather than it is now (where now, all you're controlling is switching to a weapon that can do better AoE, that of course is a non-HW).
Don't get bent out of shape folks, as Helios is working on it and our HW should be restored to where it should be (aka powerful). Now, once that happens and we find we still get outdamaged by non-Hvy Hitter professions AND/OR our AoE still sucks compared to non-HW weapons + specials, then raise some hell...but at the moment, its NOT intended and although its a very big issue its going to be changed (hopefully) very shortly, so cool your jets till then.
Don't get bent out of shape folks, as Helios is working on it and our HW should be restored to where it should be (aka powerful). Now, once that happens and we find we still get outdamaged by non-Hvy Hitter professions AND/OR our AoE still sucks compared to non-HW weapons + specials, then raise some hell...but at the moment, its NOT intended and although its a very big issue its going to be changed (hopefully) very shortly, so cool your jets till then.
Message Edited by StarNick on 05-08-2005 11:38 AM
Stupmster
Sun May 08, 2005 11:08 am
#46
StabMastah wrote:
" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! am i the only one who found that absolutely hilarious?! "
So you don't remember when Commando could stack FOUR different DOT's at once on a person ? WHen they could turn your Ham bars to BLACK with massive wound damage within seconds ?
did youplay AT ALL post DoT nerf?! because i did, and the only people i could ever beat in PvP with commando weapons were other commandos.... i could run around in mass PvPs kickingarse and taking names with a scythe or geo blaster or whatever my best PvP weaponwas at the time, but with my flamethrower equipped i dropped quite quickly... granted, i'm not the greatest PvPer every by any means but if you had two players of equal skill facing eachother and one was a commando and the other was any melee prof or a rifleman (or even a pistoleer) than there's no way the commando could win pre CU...
Reydon
Sun May 08, 2005 1:22 pm
#47
did youplay AT ALL post DoT nerf?! because i did, and the only people i could ever beat in PvP with commando weapons were other commandos.... i could run around in mass PvPs kickingarse and taking names with a scythe or geo blaster or whatever my best PvP weaponwas at the time, but with my flamethrower equipped i dropped quite quickly... granted, i'm not the greatest PvPer every by any means but if you had two players of equal skill facing eachother and one was a commando and the other was any melee prof or a rifleman (or even a pistoleer) than there's no way the commando could win pre CU...
He is talking pre-dot nerf man. We were a force not to be taken lightly.
Stupmster
Sun May 08, 2005 4:52 pm
#48
Reydon wrote:
He is talking pre-dot nerf man. We were a force not to be taken lightly.
but why? what purpose does comparing pre DoT nerf commando to CU commando serve? the DoT nerf was so long ago there doesn't seem to be much point... saying that we aren't as powerful in the CU as we were pre DoT nerf is just dumb, since the CU was designed to fix the problems we were having RIGHT before the CU hit, not months before when we were a highly unbalanced FotM class...
Reydon
Sun May 08, 2005 5:15 pm
#49
I would give up my favorite flamethrower for our pre-nerf DOT to come back. I wouldnt care either way if we had the old system or this one. I honestly miss being able to turn someones health black. To me, I saw that as their body turning to char, which is just freakin awesome when you have a flamer, lol. I loved the pre-nerf dot, I wish I had it back so much.
SpunkyKuma
Sun May 08, 2005 5:23 pm
#50
"What's going to happen when they fix our AOE damage and we knock off that Last Ditch shot at a crowd of Reb scum?"
I can only wait for that day, I'm loving the mix of damage & crowd control of smuggler combined with commando.
I can only wait for that day, I'm loving the mix of damage & crowd control of smuggler combined with commando.
Vicci A'Tivo - Elder "in your face" Bounty Hunter
Wolfmann31
Sun May 08, 2005 7:27 pm
#51
as a:
Master Commando/Master Smuggler/Carbs 2024.
My elite carbine outdamage all my commando weapons so far...
My FWG5 outdamages my commando weapons so far...
My plasmaflamer comes after that.
They said they baked our specials into the weapons, but where did the damage go? Cuz it as sure wasnt added to the weapons..
Reydon
Mon May 09, 2005 1:12 pm
#52
They said they baked our specials into the weapons, but where did the damage go? Cuz it as sure wasnt added to the weapons..
Agreed. I dont like the CU because it balances the weapons too much. Flamers are no longer the slow but strong weapon. Pistols are no longer the fast but weak weapon. They are all basicly the same now.