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Thread: 2 bothersom things from tonight's HOC chat

Novock
Wed Apr 13, 2005 7:08 pm
#40






StarNick wrote:
"The new weapon certification system should also help alleviate this problem. Once you have leveled to a certain point with a given profession you will be able to use a comparably leveled weapon from another profession. You would not be nearly as powerful as the same level player from that profession but it will help greatly in earning experience for the new profession."

Well one thing to note...Kel's fairly vague. Notice comparably leveled weapon, doesn't mean ALL weapons...but some weapons. Dev's are usually vague and need some prodding and multiple answers to get the entire story out (but hey, they're human...take this thread for example, it always takes multiple responses to get a grasp of the full scope of things)

Patch notes should be coming up soon



I'm downloading no its 19 mins on my DSL connection. Its a fairly good size download.




Novock
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StarNick
Wed Apr 13, 2005 7:09 pm
#41

Uber...downloading it now as well. Won't be on for long though...but...Lock n Load commandos!



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riotcontrol
Wed Apr 13, 2005 7:11 pm
#42


StarNick wrote:
"The new weapon certification system should also help alleviate this problem. Once you have leveled to a certain point with a given profession you will be able to use a comparably leveled weapon from another profession. You would not be nearly as powerful as the same level player from that profession but it will help greatly in earning experience for the new profession."

Well one thing to note...Kel's fairly vague. Notice comparably leveled weapon, doesn't mean ALL weapons...but some weapons. Dev's are usually vague and need some prodding and multiple answers to get the entire story out (but hey, they're human...take this thread for example, it always takes multiple responses to get a grasp of the full scope of things)

Patch notes should be coming up soon




So, if I got it right, it's to eliminate the 'We can't level BH because we have no carbine certs at Novice' and similar problems by letting you use, for example, a Novice Carbineer carbine instead of the CDEF?

(Oh my, how I hate this 'level' talk... )



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Novock
Wed Apr 13, 2005 7:35 pm
#43

Well i'm logged on and there are no weapon certs in the skillboxes.



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Knightcrest
Wed Apr 13, 2005 7:39 pm
#44

Well just thought about something... with the CL based weapon certs to help speeding up grinding. This still doesn't solve the problem of if a new player with say Rifles IV and just starting on Unarmed I getting crap xp since there are no certs that low in the tree... They will still get crap xp if they don't know to do unarmed first and then just used the advanced rifles.



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Figu
Wed Apr 13, 2005 7:41 pm
#45


wow, the new weapons cert. system totally screwed newbs over. i havent ever been this outraged by a change. no i well not get use to this, THIS PISSES ME OFF gah the path to commando has become a longer one for me -_-



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Knightcrest
Wed Apr 13, 2005 7:47 pm
#46






Figu wrote:


wow, the new weapons cert. system totally screwed newbs over. i havent ever been this outraged by a change. no i well not get use to this, THIS PISSES ME OFF gah the path to commando has become a longer one for me -_-






Well if this is the case though, it is actually better for new players as if they get UA IV first, they can then use a E11 to grind to Carbines IV for example... much better dps so won't be quite as painful as having to start with a CDEF with a higher combat level. Just sucks to be someone who did UA last in the commando/smuggler grind.



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Elder Smuggler/Master Pilot
Kylin Nightwind - Jedi/Alliance Ace & Tyrin Nightwind - TnT Engineering 3781, 4123 outside Doaba Guerfel, Corellia
Figu
Wed Apr 13, 2005 7:52 pm
#47

so you are telling me to quit rifle tree and head up the carbine tree? gah yes sir!



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Knightcrest
Wed Apr 13, 2005 7:56 pm
#48






Figu wrote:

so you are telling me to quit rifle tree and head up the carbine tree? gah yes sir!






Nah, what I meantwas, if you had of done UA IV before Rifles, you could have used the Rifles IV rifle to grind rifles I-IV to make it easier with your higher combat level. Either way now if you are grinding UA IV, it will be a little rougher if you are solo. Best advice is to grab a group



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Captain of the Wrath of Night
Elder Smuggler/Master Pilot
Kylin Nightwind - Jedi/Alliance Ace & Tyrin Nightwind - TnT Engineering 3781, 4123 outside Doaba Guerfel, Corellia
Figu
Wed Apr 13, 2005 8:01 pm
#49


gah thats why i picked commando in the first place dependence

Message Edited by Figu on 04-13-2005 10:02 PM



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Novock
Wed Apr 13, 2005 8:04 pm
#50

Well I gave this a try and waited I'm standing now at the frog and here we go.


A DE-10 requires master Pistoleer however a plasma FT requires combat level 54 and nothing else.


Proton grenades lvel 54 no cert


All commando weapons are no certs including the proton rifle which is lvl 54 no certs. So you can use evry weapon from the LP to a proton grenade and not have single commando box. So much for the wonderful Cu I was priasing and defending it until tonight. This official makes commando a utility and not a true proffession. All the waiting and hard work to get no weapon certs and no specials.



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Figu
Wed Apr 13, 2005 8:06 pm
#51

yeah, i know what you mean. so much for being a respectable Primary Profession



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Oback
Wed Apr 13, 2005 8:07 pm
#52

yea that is a lot of BS.



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