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Thread: Respec System

GenericTSS
Thu Apr 21, 2005 5:09 pm
#27

Guess I'm screwed...

I want MBH/Mcommando


and I have MCommando/MBrawler/Pikes 3xx4


Am I screwed? Guess I'll wait and see =P Maybe the grinding for BH will be good experience under the new system... though I'm pretty grinded out =P




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Knightcrest
Thu Apr 21, 2005 5:34 pm
#28


Well I can give it two more days for a response before I am cutting it too close to not having enough time to drop Commando for the first time in almost 2 years on my oldest account in order to give in to the melee stackers and grab a couple elite profs or triple master to be able to respec to my original prof and not be set behind.


*Edit* Heh... man that was one heck of a run on sentence that I do not care to fix

Message Edited by Knightcrest on 04-21-2005 07:43 PM



Colonel Valdan Nightwind
Captain of the Wrath of Night
Elder Smuggler/Master Pilot
Kylin Nightwind - Jedi/Alliance Ace & Tyrin Nightwind - TnT Engineering 3781, 4123 outside Doaba Guerfel, Corellia
Knightcrest
Thu Apr 21, 2005 5:53 pm
#29

Easiest way to make folks happy would be to weight the skill points of hybrids and elites that required a novice mastery a little heavier on their hybrid/elite sp in order to keep people from mastering the novice profs quickly to get a leg up and do away with the damage muliplier per level.



Colonel Valdan Nightwind
Captain of the Wrath of Night
Elder Smuggler/Master Pilot
Kylin Nightwind - Jedi/Alliance Ace & Tyrin Nightwind - TnT Engineering 3781, 4123 outside Doaba Guerfel, Corellia
Raptor2k1
Thu Apr 21, 2005 6:10 pm
#30

Geeze, I'm not sure how this flew under the radar, but starship conversion is really screwed up. My once, perfectly-balanced X-Wing is now a worthless scrap-heap since I can'teven load my two adv blasters back in it (somehow, the rest of the mass ended up jumping so that adding the second one overloads it; it's fine on live.)


Not to mention that I actually had to scavenge the second blaster off my A-Wing, since the conversion ate the second one on my X-Wing (first got shoved in the cargo hold slot for some reason). There's some serious space bugs that are either part of ROTW or the CU that need to be worked out in regards to space before anything goes live.


Don't think I've encountered anything in-game yet that infuriated me as much as this.



Kyeran Halkyon

Master Gunfighter and Demolitionist of the Old Republic Navy
SWG Commando Forum


Knightcrest
Thu Apr 21, 2005 6:16 pm
#31






Raptor2k1 wrote:

Geeze, I'm not sure how this flew under the radar, but starship conversion is really screwed up. My once, perfectly-balanced X-Wing is now a worthless scrap-heap since I can'teven load my two adv blasters back in it (somehow, the rest of the mass ended up jumping so that adding the second one overloads it; it's fine on live.)


Not to mention that I actually had to scavenge the second blaster off my A-Wing, since the conversion ate the second one on my X-Wing (first got shoved in the cargo hold slot for some reason). There's some serious space bugs that are either part of ROTW or the CU that need to be worked out in regards to space before anything goes live.


Don't think I've encountered anything in-game yet that infuriated me as much as this.






lol Great... I thought some of my parts looked odd in my inventory, but didn't pay much attention to it. Too bad bloodfin is already down for me to check on that toon, maybe shadowfire will have a shot.



Colonel Valdan Nightwind
Captain of the Wrath of Night
Elder Smuggler/Master Pilot
Kylin Nightwind - Jedi/Alliance Ace & Tyrin Nightwind - TnT Engineering 3781, 4123 outside Doaba Guerfel, Corellia
StarNick
Fri Apr 22, 2005 12:10 am
#32

As it stands on TC...its a one time gig =/



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SimonVeers
Fri Apr 22, 2005 12:32 am
#33






StarNick wrote:
As it stands on TC...its a one time gig =/





Ouch I wanted just a couple hours to craft the new space mining things with shipwright before dropping it to go back to a full time combatant... I wonder how much it would take to bribe a dev to give me those incy-bitsy hours... /slides Tiggs, Thunderheart, and Garva some Starbucks Coffee


Oh and thanks for all the information StarNick. My alt is a commando and I find your posts very informative. Keep up the good work mate



Gerald Von-Kel
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Pahaddino
Fri Apr 22, 2005 4:43 am
#34






StarNick wrote:
As it stands on TC...its a one time gig =/






Well, the system has way too much flaw too allow more than one time respec.


(Jedi for example with 400K xp in bank could gain 160 SP worth to be respec just by learning novice over and over again, a new toon could go master marksman, master medic, master scout by just taking the novice prof and respecting the 15SP lol...)


Azzoi
Fri Apr 22, 2005 5:32 am
#35

What's happening if you have FS skill pionts how's those skill piont going to be respected?


For example I have 2 full trees of FS skills and I would like to convert them to lets saypistols 0/4/0/4, will we be able to?



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StarNick
Fri Apr 22, 2005 6:26 am
#36

FS won't be a part of it. Soooo...those of you that went with the melee speed, well, you just got screwed as not only can you not respec that (currently), I hear range speed FS now works!

Sorry folks



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Azzoi
Fri Apr 22, 2005 6:37 am
#37

Looks like I am getting ride of my FS pionts and going to get 2 tree in pistoleer...back to Dant I go....



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VegitoX
Fri Apr 22, 2005 11:32 am
#38


StarNick, a question for you...


Im sure I read this earlier in the post; that you could use Elite points to obtain Novice boxes


So


Having maxed out Skill points in three Elite Professions: Master Fencer Master Smuggler, 2-2-4-4 Pistoleer hypothetically under the current system, would I be able to use the Pistoleer Box for Novice scout, and use those Skill points for Explore IV?


or


Should I drop those lines and pick up the novice box of Scout?

Message Edited by VegitoX on 04-22-2005 02:34 PM



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Knightcrest
Fri Apr 22, 2005 1:34 pm
#39







VegitoX wrote:


StarNick, a question for you...


Im sure I read this earlier in the post; that you could use Elite points to obtain Novice boxes


So


Having maxed out Skill points in three Elite Professions: Master Fencer Master Smuggler, 2-2-4-4 Pistoleer hypothetically under the current system, would I be able to use the Pistoleer Box for Novice scout, and use those Skill points for Explore IV?


or


Should I drop those lines and pick up the novice box of Scout?

Message Edited by VegitoX on 04-22-2005 02:34 PM






Yes you can grab novice boxes with elite skill points. Basically it splits your sp into a couple different categories to include Jedi, Elite, and Standard (Why the hellthere is no Hybrid to fix our problem, I have no idea and yes I am pissed there is no response). You have an option to revoke all skills or you can drop them one by one. As you surrender these skills your total at the bottom increases to the respective category in sp. I.E. I drop explore IV I get 5 novice sp, I drop Flame IV I get 2 elite sp. You spend your elite sp as you select elite skills, you spend your standard sp as you select novice skills. If for example you spend all of your elite sp first on elite skills, it will begin to to deduct from your standard skills for more elite skills at a value of .5 elite. Flame IV would cost you 4 standard sp. I can't remeber if it works in reverse, but it would make sense that it does in the way that Hybrid sp would be weighted heavier than Elite sp... if you catch my drift. In any case though, you will be able to respec those elite in to standard sp (read:novice) required boxes. Whether it is one for one or .5 elite for 1 standard I can't remeber. Hope that helps. Where the hell is the Dev feedback on this issue Stern? Or are they gonna wait until the day before the revamp so we can't grind and will be their test subjects for the live fixes that are inevitable?




*Edit*


I am extremely pissedthat the Dev's are forcing me to grind in their new system which is in test but from my experience is gonna be one MAJOR pain in the arse to level at higher levels because you will have to kill such high end Mobs to get any reward out of it... or else drop a master I have been proud of for two years to FotM myself to get back to the same template capabilities I have had for longer than half of this Dev team has been on board!

Message Edited by Knightcrest on 04-22-2005 03:40 PM



Colonel Valdan Nightwind
Captain of the Wrath of Night
Elder Smuggler/Master Pilot
Kylin Nightwind - Jedi/Alliance Ace & Tyrin Nightwind - TnT Engineering 3781, 4123 outside Doaba Guerfel, Corellia
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