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Thread: OK so where are the docs?

garvin
Tue Sep 14, 2004 10:05 pm
#27

Just noticed a very interesting post over in the Bounty Hunter forum...maybe some Commandos should compare notes on what they think they've pieced together...



Garvin Lansdowne
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Ilanan
Tue Sep 14, 2004 10:11 pm
#28

/wave


Just passing...

Why did they put the combat Revamp on hold?



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Ilanan
Tue Sep 14, 2004 10:19 pm
#29

Hey Weiss...

Lil off topic...

Was reading your sig....

You know how to do that...

Do you know how to do colored Sigs?


(Eek I'm a forum noob!)



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garvin
Tue Sep 14, 2004 10:19 pm
#30






Ilanan wrote:

/wave


Just passing...

Why did they put the combat Revamp on hold?





They haven't put anything on hold...that is just a rumor...


The Revamp has always been scheduled to hit live after JTL with no date set...


Testing for the Revamp may or may not start before JTL...


And the Doc release timeline is still being discussed apparently...not really sure here...So honestly, nothing has been "postponed", "put on hold" or "cancelled"...don't give into the doomsayers...


Whether or not there is an issue with the Docs I don't know at this point (it is weird that haven't been released yet) but my guess is we'll be seeing some type of post over the next couple of days as to their status if not seeing actual CR info trickle out...TH said he'd try and let us (possibly publically) know what the deal is with the docs...


But like I said...the Revamp has not been postponed...and I'm still holding out hope that testing will start sometime in October (JTL is supposedly coming out around the end of October or early November)...Again, that's my hopes...the Devs have not stated an actual date or even an approximation...


I just wish they'd some if not all the info...if you knew what I knew, you'd understand why it's not going to happen quickly...it is a very intensive change to gameplay that will effect ALL Professions especially Combat professions...like I said in the beginning, after the Revamp, this game will feel new for many of us Veterans.





Garvin Lansdowne
Retired Commando Correspondent - Current Blue Glowie

Master Commando / TKM || Architect / Shipwright / Master Droidsmith

ShadowStyrkeGuild.com: A WoW Guild Website

WeissHengst
Tue Sep 14, 2004 10:22 pm
#31

Oh the html post? Sorry don't know how to do color html... barely can do html. Put that in my sig so i can remember.



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Ilanan
Tue Sep 14, 2004 10:28 pm
#32

Hmmm... smart move...

Rofl at least I'm not the only person who doesn't know...

You may all go back to your Regular Programming.



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WeissHengst
Tue Sep 14, 2004 10:29 pm
#33

lol



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nbd9k
Tue Sep 14, 2004 10:57 pm
#34

Well, it makes me feel that much better knowing now that they never intended to push the revamp or the docs. that way, the lack of information is no longer a let down, but rather a necessary wait before they give us what they owe.


mucho domos garvin.


-harv.
garvin
Tue Sep 14, 2004 11:29 pm
#35






nbd9k wrote:

Well, it makes me feel that much better knowing now that they never intended to push the revamp or the docs. that way, the lack of information is no longer a let down, but rather a necessary wait before they give us what they owe.


mucho domos garvin.


-harv.





And that's they type of comment/attitude that is the reason the devs no longer give us dates and timelines...they use to but everytime something got delayed or cancelled, they got flamed into hiding...so they went with a policy of not sharing their timelines...only approximations...


Did I say they "never" intended to push the revamp or the docs? NOPE!!! I said they never promised to have them out last week, or yesterday, or today, or tomorrow, or next week, etc...


Folks have a right to be bitter, but don't let it turn you juvenille in behavior...The Devs do plan on making the Revamp happen, it's just a matter of when...They know that it might hurt their business to wait, but they would have to be IDIOTS to rush it out...I'd rather they take the time to get it right rather then put it out have assed...


One of the #1 complaints about SWG is that it was rushed out of Beta to fast without fixing a lot of the bugs...So now people are crying over the Revamp not being rushed out...or the Docs not being rushed out...believe it or not, but we Correspondents are on YOUR SIDE...so when we tell you that it's worth the wait, guess what, IT IS!!!!


Did you know that most Correspondents started out as their forums most active ranters? And everyone of them pretty much at one point or another, after getting the Correspondent Position, realized something crazy...The Devs and Programmers actually want to accomplish our requests...I know, I can't believe it myself...


Here is something else you may not realize...did you know that everything that goes into the game, and I mean EVERYTHING, must get LucasArts clearance...even the Devs making big game related posts must get legal clearance...That's the price Sony pays for creating a licensed game...And that's a reason why the Revamp has taken so long (including the docs)...Everybit of new contentthat we pretty much see probably took weeks for getting legal clearance before even hitting the test server...Even the things that NPC's say has to be cleared...


So basically what I'm trying to say is "STOP BEING SO PESIMISTIC"...I will never lie to any of you...if I see or hear of something bad, I'll tell you...and if I say good things are coming, they are...We've waited this long for good things to happen, we can wait a bit longer and YES, it will happen...In the meantime, ask yourself why you started playing this game...get back to that...and JTL is coming (whether you are boycotting it or not) and it looks freaking awesome...Once JTL is done, guess what the Devs have planned to work on next? NOTHING CURRENTLY...WHY? because they'll already be neck deep in getting the Revamp done and out to the live servers...work on the revamp has already started...that is a given fact and the Docs back that up...





Garvin Lansdowne
Retired Commando Correspondent - Current Blue Glowie

Master Commando / TKM || Architect / Shipwright / Master Droidsmith

ShadowStyrkeGuild.com: A WoW Guild Website

Imador
Wed Sep 15, 2004 12:49 am
#36






garvin wrote:


Ok...ready for another hint (ask the right questions I'll try and provide some good hints)...Our skill sets, including the ones we get before becoming Commando will be further enhanced within the Commando profession...And, as hinted before, thereis more then oneroute to improve your Commando skill sets outside of the Commando profession...


Ok...that sounds confusing, but if you've been following the hints and the speculation closely, it should make some sense...






I'm getting the impression that there may be a set of skill boxes that are not tied to a particular profession but rather particular weapons. Am I getting warm or are they tying professions together more?


I would really rather just see a topic in the dev tracker that says "Getting to know your revamp documents"


garvin
Wed Sep 15, 2004 12:52 am
#37






Imador wrote:





garvin wrote:


Ok...ready for another hint (ask the right questions I'll try and provide some good hints)...Our skill sets, including the ones we get before becoming Commando will be further enhanced within the Commando profession...And, as hinted before, thereis more then oneroute to improve your Commando skill sets outside of the Commando profession...


Ok...that sounds confusing, but if you've been following the hints and the speculation closely, it should make some sense...






I'm getting the impression that there may be a set of skill boxes that are not tied to a particular profession but rather particular weapons. Am I getting warm or are they tying professions together more?


I would really rather just see a topic in the dev tracker that says "Getting to know your revamp documents"







sorry...cold...with the revamp there will be no new professions or extra skill boxes...current plan is keeping the same number of professions with the same number of skill boxes in each...


I can't tell you what specifically is in there, but on occasion, I don't see any problem telling you want IS NOT in there...





Garvin Lansdowne
Retired Commando Correspondent - Current Blue Glowie

Master Commando / TKM || Architect / Shipwright / Master Droidsmith

ShadowStyrkeGuild.com: A WoW Guild Website

Nerj
Wed Sep 15, 2004 4:25 am
#38

New Worries Now, From the Carbineer Forum:






novamarine wrote:

To all...


I have decided I no longer wish to play SWG. There are many reasons for this but for constructive purposes, I'll keep them to myself. I wish you all the best in future and hope the developers can actually implement a working combat system some time in the near future.


Once a Carbineer, always a Carbineer. A fond farewell my friends...






Why is this a worry? BECAUSE HE HAS SEEN THE DOCS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and IS STILL LEAVING THE GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not just waiting for the Revamp, but QUITING THE GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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blacke
Wed Sep 15, 2004 4:34 am
#39



Nerj wrote:
New Worries Now, From the Carbineer Forum:


novamarine wrote:
To all...
I have decided I no longer wish to play SWG. There are many reasons for this but for constructive purposes, I'll keep them to myself. I wish you all the best in future and hope the developers can actually implement a working combat system some time in the near future.
Once a Carbineer, always a Carbineer. A fond farewell my friends...


Why is this a worry? BECAUSE HE HAS SEEN THE DOCS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and IS STILL LEAVING THE GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not just waiting for the Revamp, but QUITING THE GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




Ehm, you don't think his RL has anything to do with this? Althou he says that he nolonger wish to play, it may be due to facts outside the game entirely.
I am not that worried about the revamp becouse I know the future of SWG is with it. If it's bad then SWG will fall and I don't think SOE will just try and milk more money of it with the promise of the CR untill it's doom.






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