Commando Archive
Thread: 81 Skill points and you Still Cry For Defences :|
Hadriaan
Fri Jul 16, 2004 1:46 pm
#27
I've only been a master Commando for about a week and a half now, but I think I have a valid point to throw in on this discussion, and it's a very simple point.
A commando should not be required to master another skill simply for defense so he can participate in pvp and still be efficient. That's just wrong.
kolic
Fri Jul 16, 2004 10:36 pm
#28
>hey man i want to be a commando too send a tell to KOLIC SMITH i am in flurry too.
WarNerve5776
Sat Jul 17, 2004 4:23 am
#29
I agree Commando needs some fixes. But I don't think Commando should ever be good in pvp. If they were to make Commando a pvp profession they would have to lower our damage. Commando is meant as a support role. While someone else tanks or draws fire the Commando sits back and deals heavy damage. This is why alot of people think the Particle beam cannons,rocket launchers, etc are useless. They are not using them correctly....they are heavy SUPPORT weapons.
Message Edited by WarNerve5776 on 07-19-2004 04:50 AM
Ster
Sat Jul 17, 2004 7:24 am
#30
WarNerve5776 wrote:
I agree Commando needs some fixes. But I don't think Commando should ever be good in pvp. If they were to make Commando a pvp profession they would have to lower our damage. Commando is meant as a suppor role. While someone else tanks or draws fire the Commando sits back and deals heavy damage. This is why alot of people think the Particle beam cannons,rocket launchers, etc are useless. They are not using them correctly....they are heavy SUPPORT weapons.
Support or no, there are other professions right now that are better at the role. Even if I say back and fired my RLs all day long without getting into the mix of things, a rifleman WILL outdamage with their version of the RL known as the T21.
TaloMox
Sat Jul 17, 2004 4:46 pm
#31
I'm sorry, I don't buy it. I don't use 169 SP to be a SUPPORT character when people can spend far less than that and not be considered a support character.
WarNerve5776 wrote:
I agree Commando needs some fixes. But I don't think Commando should ever be good in pvp. If they were to make Commando a pvp profession they would have to lower our damage. Commando is meant as a suppor role. While someone else tanks or draws fire the Commando sits back and deals heavy damage. This is why alot of people think the Particle beam cannons,rocket launchers, etc are useless. They are not using them correctly....they are heavy SUPPORT weapons.
Raptor2k1
Sat Jul 17, 2004 5:57 pm
#32
They are not using them correctly....they are heavy SUPPORT weapons.
Thank you for pointing that out... Now let me point something out to you.
The Commando Trees are as follows:
- Field Tactics (Grenades) - Grenadier
- Heavy Support Weapons - Demolitionist
- Flamethrower - Shock Trooper
- Heavy Acid Rifle - Heavy Infantry
Do the bolded titles sound like support roles to you? Just because one of our trees pertains to weapons that should function best in supporting roles, it does not mean that Commandos should be some measly support class.
_Dragonius_
Sat Jul 17, 2004 11:02 pm
#33
Tell me something why do people keep saying we are a SUPPORT profession when we have to master marksman and have the unarmed tree as well. Commando is a pure combat profession. CMs are a support profession. Geez, some people just don't realize.
-BihKehHe
lisasdarren
Sun Jul 18, 2004 3:33 am
#34
Here is my problem...
I used to be:
Master Smuggler
Master Pistoleer
0/3/0/4 TKA
1/0/0/0 Medic
0/0/1/0 Scout
I could solo Rancors (Other things to, but this is my example)
They hardly touched me and i could take one down in about 10 seconds
Now I am:
Master Smuggler
Master Commando
0/0/1/0 Scout
Rancors eat me up, it takes me far longer to kill one and they do me loads of damage
I have now spent more SP on combat and yet am worse at it... How does this make sence?
I don't want defences, I want toughness, to work against melee at least twice as well asunarmed toughness and ranged to work at least as well as unarmed currently does.
BaronZemm
Sun Jul 18, 2004 2:56 pm
#35
:-/
I can almost gaurantee that when the prof was originally designed they said "Super high damage, super low def"
If you want higher def, then expect lower damage to balance it out.
MC - Smuggler 0/0/1/0 - Medic 1/2/4/0 - TKA - 4/0/0/4
I can almost gaurantee that when the prof was originally designed they said "Super high damage, super low def"
If you want higher def, then expect lower damage to balance it out.
MC - Smuggler 0/0/1/0 - Medic 1/2/4/0 - TKA - 4/0/0/4
Quevey
Sun Jul 18, 2004 8:39 pm
#36
BaronZemm wrote:
:-/
I can almost gaurantee that when the prof was originally designed they said "Super high damage, super low def"
If you want higher def, then expect lower damage to balance it out.
MC - Smuggler 0/0/1/0 - Medic 1/2/4/0 - TKA - 4/0/0/4
i agree. but the problem is were considered a range prof. lunge2 20m har and ft 16m and we get 2.5 to hit against us.
so we either need proper defenses or some kind of actual range oh yeah isnt the max range on grenades 20m to?
and before the patch a cm could throw for more then 4x this
lisasdarren
Mon Jul 19, 2004 3:45 am
#37
BaronZemm wrote:
:-/
I can almost gaurantee that when the prof was originally designed they said "Super high damage, super low def"
If you want higher def, then expect lower damage to balance it out.
MC - Smuggler 0/0/1/0 - Medic 1/2/4/0 - TKA - 4/0/0/4
Thats fine by me, when we going to get super high damage then?
If i could do more than twice the damage of any other profession then i would happily accept the low defences, as it stands we can be out damaged by several other professions with better defences.
Dracula53
Mon Jul 19, 2004 4:11 am
#38
when i first started out in swg i wanted to go BH but after seeing a commando pvp i knew what i should be 
, and master scout wasnt what i had in mind. So i went commando and thought i would do the whole tkm thing with it except for me i had a time grinding tk..i would be fighting a npc and would think ( dang i can use my FT and get this over with) and not get any UA xp. well after a wile i didnt dop muchb i would pvp get kd and die oh and dont get me started on Cms. I knew that i was better than this and i couldnt understand it... i picked up nov medic big + but still something was missing, and thenm it happend they changed bh and i picked up lightning 4 ( im the heavy wepons man now :stormtrooper...but still im missing something i thought of droping some in commando and picking up cm ah i dunno what to do maby i should just drop bh and get tkm but terain neg is cool and also being the heavy wepons master is kinda cool. i kinda am at a stand stil if any one has any ideas ill do them, dont really wanna drop commando was so fun to get and to be but i dont like dieing eather 
if any one can give me a tip ...your pal Ravoc Raiker (radiant) and yes i am imperial 
, and master scout wasnt what i had in mind. So i went commando and thought i would do the whole tkm thing with it except for me i had a time grinding tk..i would be fighting a npc and would think ( dang i can use my FT and get this over with) and not get any UA xp. well after a wile i didnt dop muchb i would pvp get kd and die oh and dont get me started on Cms. I knew that i was better than this and i couldnt understand it... i picked up nov medic big + but still something was missing, and thenm it happend they changed bh and i picked up lightning 4 ( im the heavy wepons man now :stormtrooper...but still im missing something i thought of droping some in commando and picking up cm ah i dunno what to do maby i should just drop bh and get tkm but terain neg is cool and also being the heavy wepons master is kinda cool. i kinda am at a stand stil if any one has any ideas ill do them, dont really wanna drop commando was so fun to get and to be but i dont like dieing eather if any one can give me a tip ...your pal Ravoc Raiker (radiant) and yes i am imperial
WarNerve5776
Mon Jul 19, 2004 4:53 am
#39
BaronZemm wrote:
:-/
I can almost gaurantee that when the prof was originally designed they said "Super high damage, super low def"
If you want higher def, then expect lower damage to balance it out.
MC - Smuggler 0/0/1/0 - Medic 1/2/4/0 - TKA - 4/0/0/4
Exactley.