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Thread: 81 Skill points and you Still Cry For Defences :|
FYI you might want to avoid this in the future... it hurts peoples eyes, causes them to think your insane/on drugs, and generally makes people ignore whatever point you were trying to get across because they are so appalled by the manor in which the message was communicated. 
Commando is the most combat-oriented class in the game, this should be reflected in adequatedefenses given our close-combatspecialty(or such crazy offense that it compensates for our lack of defenses, but I think the devs don't want any class to have such over the top combat offensive powers... aside from CM anyways. 
(sorry, had to get that one in!) ) There is a reason that Commandos and Bounty Hunters have been clamoring for more defenses since day 1... they are sorely needed.
On another note, you can edit posts once a veteran by going up to the options tab on your already posted message and clicking the edit option.
100% agree im master commando/tkm/ smuggler. When your buffed and in pve, food and spices dont require skill points to use for healing. also if need be i always got my combat medic buddy following me around too. As for pvp well im jsut not that good at it so it doesnt matter.
Derp-on-Flurry wrote:
Skill Points Broken Down
- MasterMarks= 77
- Unarmed 4(brawler) = 29
- Master Commando = 63
Last Time I checked, I had 81 skill points left after master commando & found with the 64 it took to master Teras Kasithedefences are almost the best you can have with out Melee stacking.And I had enough for novice medic.
WHATS THE PROBLEM?
YOU CAN'T TAKE A GROUP OF 5 LIKE IN THE OLD DAYS, CMON GROW UP & STOP PVPing or GO FENCER PERIOD...
I've personally met to many people who are concerned with doing other things with their commando (example:a guy who told me he was picking up novice musician to heal his own wounds.) and all I can say is you have to make a choice, Combat or Non-Com its that simple.
Starnik wrote : I think you missed the point.
No, I think you missed the point, It was my thread how could I miss the point., My point is with 81 skill points you have the ablility to build the proper defence.
Sorry if You took the rest as a person insult, It wasnt directed @ you, I dont even know you.
*Ahem*, First spell my name correctly. Second you miss the point again...how so, you ask? My reply was a counter-example to how you are WRONG in your entire arguement...saying that as commandos we gotta shut up and use the last 81 SP we got at Master (Meanwhile, to get an even more powerful template AND more SP...we can just simply ditch commando). I didn't take your post as an insult to me, but as our entire profession, and quite frankly...im glad I dont even know you either.
As garvin said more precisely...having 169 SP and being FAR less powerful than someone with an equal SP template is just plain unbalanced...as that player can become FAR more powerful while the Commando (and BH to a degree) can be left in the dust....that is how you missed the point.
"I Know where you're coming from, its not where I am coming from. Im just looking at it from where I stand.
Some of my original post is very bias & refects only my opinion& Iwas a little obtuceshould be taken very lightly.
In bullet form these are my only points, I love commando & unless I stop playing this game will allways be a commando. Iencourage every one to go commado (even when they laugh, and believe me I usally convince) because I truely feel we're the cream of the crop.
- 1.2 flamethrower -I have no Issues with Speed & that with out playing for the past year and some I wouldnt have anything I do today. But I see that as Fair, why should someone who started two weeks ago have equipment like us?
- I feel that DPS only counts for PVP & low HAM mobs, I've never been out damaged on any mob with over 300k HAM since they allowed DOTs to count towards loot rights. I do have Issues with things like the Aklay, which I am frequently out done by swordsman.
- Range is an Issue * I AGREE* please pushfor betterrange on Specials.
- I didnt compare commando with other professions & am not trying to, I just wanted to say that 81 skill points youare very able to builda good Defences.
- Accuracy could be better but @ 110 + aim 25 = 135 + any attachments you have will cut through the 125 ranged defence cap. (did you see the thead asking about the dodge nerf, I figure it's because Jedi were dodging other states & they were still sticking)
- I love to Solo Elders all night long & they have 100% to heat & with a 1800 buff & two brandies its a walk in the park granted you have something for defences like TKM.
- We could use more Dodge, Counter-Attack & Block, I agree here, but like I was saying with TKM you have almost the best Defences in the game.
- Finaly, I've been a commando since day one & like I've stated in other Posts
"COMMANDO IS BY FAR THE SECOND BEST PROFESSION IN THE GAME SECOND ONLY THE JEDI WHICH RECENTLY TOOK ITS RIGHTFUL PLACE ON TOP."
Im not here to cause trouble & I would really like to be "friends"
I did not mean to in anyway disrespect you Or the Professionwe feel so strongly about. But I am not waiting for a Fix, Im doing the best with what I have & am in the "fold" allready.
I've been told I am very bitter, I forget to take this into accountwhen posting in a public forum.
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Son, your original post would count to many as a flame post to the Commando's for feeling strongly about our current status/problems. I recommend you re-read your original post and then try and find the "points" that you are mentioning in this current post. You now have a bit to prove to the "community" as pertaining to your ability to complete a "mature" thought.
/applaud Garvin
/applaud StarNick
"This is my BOOM STICK, and I am PROUD OF IT!"
Derp-on-Flurry wrote:
Skill Points Broken Down
- MasterMarks= 77
- Unarmed 4(brawler) = 29
- Master Commando = 63
WHATS THE PROBLEM?
YOU CAN'T TAKE A GROUP OF 5 LIKE IN THE OLD DAYS, CMON GROW UP & STOP PVPing or GO FENCER PERIOD...
I've personally met to many people who are concerned with doing other things with their commando (example:a guy who told me he was picking up novice musician to heal his own wounds.) and all I can say is you have to make a choice, Combat or Non-Com its that simple.
dude, I hate to break it to ya, but you're either really messed up in the head, like inciting people to want to be lynch mobs, or you are just a jerk.
Derp-on-Flurry wrote:
Skill Points Broken Down
- MasterMarks= 77
- Unarmed 4(brawler) = 29
- Master Commando = 63
WHATS THE PROBLEM?
YOU CAN'T TAKE A GROUP OF 5 LIKE IN THE OLD DAYS, CMON GROW UP & STOP PVPing or GO FENCER PERIOD...
I've personally met to many people who are concerned with doing other things with their commando (example:a guy who told me he was picking up novice musician to heal his own wounds.) and all I can say is you have to make a choice, Combat or Non-Com its that simple.
A response like "grow up & stop PVPing or GO FENCER PERIOD" is not exactly addressing what we are complaining about. This would give us defences as a FENCER. Commandos are, and have been asking for defences with their COMMANDO weapons...so please go crawl back under the bridge where you trolls live.
*sprays forum troll with cheeze wiz*
garvin wrote:
Look at professions like Pistoleer, Rifleman, Swordsman, TKA, etc...all have higher defenses...Rifleman and TKA can even out damage a Commando when it comes to DPS...yet all 3 have less pre-reqs then a Commando...
Its so true... I do 300 damage in pvp but in pve I can do 11k
you mean you do 300dmg when you actually hit your target in pvp
mojen wrote:
garvin wrote:
Look at professions like Pistoleer, Rifleman, Swordsman, TKA, etc...all have higher defenses...Rifleman and TKA can even out damage a Commando when it comes to DPS...yet all 3 have less pre-reqs then a Commando...
Its so true... I do 300 damage in pvp but in pve I can do 11k