Commando Archive
Thread: My Speculations on the state of the Combat Revamp Docs
TK-132 wrote:
This is ridiculous. Will be having the combat revamp soon. We will be posting the combat revamp docs soon. We will be posting information about when the docs come out soon. We will be posting information about the information about when the docs come out soon.....
(Bangs head on wall)
I'm getting real tired of this "soon" garbage. I've just about had enough. If nothing about the docs or wharever comes out soon I'm just gonna figure that the revamp isn't happening until January. It should have happened in August, and the revamp should take place in November. Pardon my French but I'm sick and tired of this crap. All I want is fair fun game.
"Soon" seems to be the new "That will be addressed in the Combat Balance"...The word or phrase we love to hate...
At least I do know that TH is working on some type of "status of the Combat Revamp and it's docs" type post that I'm hoping we'll see today or tomorrow (he hasn't confirmed when it will post, only that he's working on it and it may only address the status of the docs)...
Each day that goes by most of us Correspodents are going nuts wanting to spill the beans...but we all know the effect of that without you seeing the actuall docs...The bigger picture may be missed and negative feelings will develop based off of misiterpretations that will be hard to dispell (once someone convinces themselves it's a bad idea, it's hard to change their minds)...If I had heard only partial info regarding the Combat Revamp I might have been concerned about a few things...but when I had ALL of the details and someone to explain the ultimate gameplan, it all fell into place and made very good sense...
For example, if the Devs went ahead and posted the Commando changes without explaininganything else, some folks would accuse us of becoming too powerful and they'd gear up to get us NERF'd...but when you see the other profession changes, plus the formula changes as well as the HAM and Armor changes, it all starts to make sense...
Anyway...I wish I could provide you all with something more...but unfortunately I can't...but I will leave you with another hint to drive you all even more crazy...
In the Current Revamp Info, kiting will be combatable by ALL when it comes to PvP...We Commandos won't have to worry about being slowly killed by someone who strategically stays outside 16m...
garvin wrote:
TK-132 wrote:
This is ridiculous. Will be having the combat revamp soon. We will be posting the combat revamp docs soon. We will be posting information about when the docs come out soon. We will be posting information about the information about when the docs come out soon.....
(Bangs head on wall)
I'm getting real tired of this "soon" garbage. I've just about had enough. If nothing about the docs or wharever comes out soon I'm just gonna figure that the revamp isn't happening until January. It should have happened in August, and the revamp should take place in November. Pardon my French but I'm sick and tired of this crap. All I want is fair fun game.
"Soon" seems to be the new "That will be addressed in the Combat Balance"...The word or phrase we love to hate...
At least I do know that TH is working on some type of "status of the Combat Revamp and it's docs" type post that I'm hoping we'll see today or tomorrow (he hasn't confirmed when it will post, only that he's working on it and it may only address the status of the docs)...
Each day that goes by most of us Correspodents are going nuts wanting to spill the beans...but we all know the effect of that without you seeing the actuall docs...The bigger picture may be missed and negative feelings will develop based off of misiterpretations that will be hard to dispell (once someone convinces themselves it's a bad idea, it's hard to change their minds)...If I had heard only partial info regarding the Combat Revamp I might have been concerned about a few things...but when I had ALL of the details and someone to explain the ultimate gameplan, it all fell into place and made very good sense...
For example, if the Devs went ahead and posted the Commando changes without explaininganything else, some folks would accuse us of becoming too powerful and they'd gear up to get us NERF'd...but when you see the other profession changes, plus the formula changes as well as the HAM and Armor changes, it all starts to make sense...
Anyway...I wish I could provide you all with something more...but unfortunately I can't...but I will leave you with another hint to drive you all even more crazy...
In the Current Revamp Info, kiting will be combatable by ALL when it comes to PvP...We Commandos won't have to worry about being slowly killed by someone who strategically stays outside 16m...
Yeah, this combat balance (Notice I don't say "rebalance")... should have been the first thing they did. Or atleast one of the first. I've spent exactly $240 for this game, with absolutely nothing new that has come out and applied to me except cutting the f*cking nuts off any profession I get. Yeah I get better service at a damn Wal-mart... and I believe in Unions.
Thats one reason I'm very angry. The idea we have to wait, for a combat balance, which should be done right in the first place, or fixed (they knew this wasa problem and admited it). And I have paid $190 for almost nothing improvement wise. ... please no one can deny thatwe lostthe little gcw we had; the prime purpose of this game. Sure pvp is fun (no i don't whine about ANY certain professions: dots, etc... like some people do)... pvp is great... but really, where's all the stuff from the movies? The actual gcw battles... where they go? ... anyone? Yeah. All we got now is little personal battles.
I will name more problems I have with the game now (reason why as of now I'm not playing and not renewing), but to tellyou the truth I don't really care anymore so I'm not gonna explain myself too much.
1. Waiting. Them not informing us about anything. Not a new complaint.
2. Abusing our gaming additions. How else can you explain telling a gamer, that if he masters all the profesions he'll get Jedi. What did they expect here?
3. Besides few caves... no new content.
4. Nerfs, nerfs, nerfs...
5. Jedi, jed, jedi...
6. Hidden updates not in publish notes... of course stuff we won't like... that's really lovely SOE.
7. "Oh this game will be great, just wait".
8. Non-game hate in game and forums. May sound weird, but someone swearing at you for no reason... or stuff of that sort. Now talking in game cr*p is great, but out of game... I've had boys call women "c*nts, b*tches, wh*res, for absolutely no reason".
9.Unresponsive professsion forums... yes even this one. A fewhelpful people in forums, but other than that players flaming my commando posts, or other posts. And of course, a little dev communication (or some sort of SOE person)... would do wonders. No one has really responded to my original posts.
10. People in game flaming that I have commando.
11. Another thing about cb: supposed to give professions "roles", but I think all of us have roles, we just don't want to do them.
12. No heavy weapons profession... And after cb looks like commando will have less emphasis on heavy.
13. Doctors are being punished. Buffing for hours just so all of us can play- yeah that's really nice SOE.
14.Jtl, I don't want to play that.
I really don't want to waste any of my time writing about this, either I get ignored or flamed. Thanks alot everyone... thanks a bunch...
nbd9k wrote:
Any new developments on this, Garvin?
Yea on Saturday TH posted that they would be out.... soon.... dult soon.... thats what He said before.
Dev response: "no you see that was the old "soon" we have decide to go a different a cooler way so now we are waiting for the new "soon" It will be fun though we can't speak at the moment towards the details of the "soon" But the "soon" will change how you view soon. And then soon you will have forgotten about the old soon and will wonder how you ever got along with the old soon. But after the new soon we are looking at furher enhancing the soon and that will come soon after the new soon that replaced the old soon.
Not really...still hearing rumblings that an announcment is coming on the status of the docs...
nbd9k wrote:
Any new developments on this, Garvin?
garvin wrote:
Novock wrote:
"still hearing rumblings "
rumblings?
Like what.... Ah man u mean we have to work on those things?
Sry just in a super frustrated mood this morning.
Rumblings as in TH stating he is working on some type of announcment...Even SOETyrant confirmed that he is putting something together...but I say rumblings because there has been no confirmation on exactly what it will detail (just that it will be related to the combat revamp docs) and no confirmation of when it will be posted...
I posted this morning to hopefully get some type of update I can share publically...for now it's all speculation...Personally I have my own speculations on what the hold up is, and it does sort of make sense (in a lame sort of way) but I'm holding off on sharing to prevent any further rumors...I will say this...I don't believe the doc delays are in anyway a sign that something is wrong with the revamp or will result in a delay of the sandbox getting up and running...I think it has more of a "business" reason and TH is a victim in this as much as we are...but again...that's just my wild speculation...
Understandable, The JTL release is coming soon and all efforts are concentrated on it. It will be their Christamas season seller and they definatlly don't want any more bad publicity on SWG. By commenting incorrectlly, on the ground game, it may turn some potential buyers off. Therefore, wording on the DOCs must be done very carefully as to NOT cause a panic.