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Thread: VOTE: your favorite idea for a new weapon

DarkHelmet-TIO
Mon Jun 21, 2004 1:55 am
#27

You nailed it
RazerWolf
Mon Jun 21, 2004 2:08 am
#28

Either that would work, or using the Rifleman mods but with unique specials. It's kind of the mark of the Hybrid profession thast they learn a different way of using a Marksman weapon, like with BH Pistols and Carbines. There's no reason why you couldn't put enough Accuracy and Speed mods in the Commando "Rifle" line to be comparable with Rifleman, but you could also Dabble like the Pistoleer/BHs to specialise more in that specific weapon. After all, the skill point system is supposed to be set up for dabbling.



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RazerWolf
Mon Jun 21, 2004 3:52 am
#29



DarkHelmet-TIO wrote:
No
Commando weapons should be equal and use nothing but heavy weapon mods. We will undoubtedly have many more weapons than other professions and it seems stupid to have to specialise in only one to be effective.





How would having one tree of Rifles and 3 trees of Heavy Weapons and grenades similar as now be specialising in only one? The idea is that all three would be effective, as with each of the BH lines, just that you have the option to further enhance the rifle skills. If you make the Commando Rifles have a high Accuracy and Speed straight off the weapon, you can easily hit the speed cap with high accuracy within the Commando profession, so if you chose to master Rifleman, you'd only be able to benefit from half of the skill mods. Likewise, a Riflemen could get the extra benefits of the Commando profession, but at the cost of at least an extra 83 skill points to get to Novice.



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DarkHelmet-TIO
Mon Jun 21, 2004 4:31 am
#30

That would still make the other weapons inferior to the one you choose to specialise in.
RazerWolf
Mon Jun 21, 2004 5:02 am
#31

You're not looking at it situationally. A Repeater Commando would be destroyed by a Meleer whether they take up Rifleman or not, as they still have a terrible short ranged accuracy, and no defence. In that situation, a Flame/HAR Commando would come out far on top due to their melee moves, extra melee toughness which applies only with those weapons, and their high short-ranged accuracy. Likewise, a Repeater Commando would mince the Flame Commando in a ranged shoot-out. A Repeater Commando/Master Rifleman would be an awesome power in a large group battle, and so they should be for 189 skill points spent entirely specialising in that one weapon. But they've not got enough skill left over to get enough melee to go one-on-one with any melee profession. Their only option to fight well in a melee situation would be to take up the rest of Commando.



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DarkHelmet-TIO
Mon Jun 21, 2004 6:01 am
#32

Hmm im talking about Master Commando, they should be equally awesome with all heavy weapons.
RazerWolf
Mon Jun 21, 2004 6:08 am
#33

Yes, I agree completely there. A Master Commando should be equally good at using all his weapons, given the situtaion, and thus be the ultimate versatile profession. But in the same way that a Master Commando/Master TK is better off using TK abilities against some targets when within 5m than the other commano abilities, a Master Commando/Master Rifleman would be perfectly suited as a long distance group support. Yes, they would be more powerful with that one weapon than just a straight Master Commando, but they sacrifice the ability to evolve in melee or in another field like medicine, and thus also lose a lot of soloing ability.



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plasmakills
Mon Jun 21, 2004 6:44 am
#34

Assault Carbine would definetly be a nice addition.



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bennybob204
Mon Jun 21, 2004 11:32 pm
#35

Assault (lets just say weapon) is the winner in a landslide


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Android21
Mon Jun 21, 2004 11:47 pm
#36

I think we need the Dark Trooper cannon from Dark Forces. It's a shoulder mounted heavy weapon, and it shoots blue plasma. (Not enough weapons shoot blue!) Kyle Katarn was a Commando, so we should be able to use his weapons.



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RazerWolf
Tue Jun 22, 2004 9:37 am
#37

I think that'd class as the Heavy Assault Weapon we want



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Ster
Tue Jun 22, 2004 9:39 am
#38






Android21 wrote:

I think we need the Dark Trooper cannon from Dark Forces. It's a shoulder mounted heavy weapon, and it shoots blue plasma. (Not enough weapons shoot blue!) Kyle Katarn was a Commando, so we should be able to use his weapons.






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Tue Jun 22, 2004 10:35 am
#39

I dont need to be great in pvp as a solo profession What i need is to be great with 4 other commandos in pvp.. Give us the weapons that we need to acomplish what we do .. TAKE out heavy targets Bases turrets Assault riffle ect .. Then give us what we need to do pvp in a group....No body should be able to take us out if we have 5 highly trained commandos in a group.. But a group only...GOd i love cross fire ) Make us fast movers sneaky...We hit Blow everything up then run and let the others mop up .. My 2 cr..



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