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I gues it would all depend on the type of rocket being fired.

Rockets with a HEAP warhead would explode and send out shrpanel in a wide area. Not much damage against armor. The FFARS from the helicopters would be an example.

Rockets and/or Missles with a HEAT warhead would penetrate very well against most armors, doing little area effect. RPG's LAWS etc.

I still think the T-21 would be fine as a AP - 2, it is sci - fi after all, and it could be considered some type of rail gun.. whatever.

It is just this idiot made such a foolish statement in the beginning of this post, then called us all basically idiots for not agreeing with him. That I had to speak up. Not to mention his continuing to tell me I don't understand phsysics.

I've seen what HEAT rounds can do.

Okay. I totally agree that the T21 should have AP3... It totally makes sense... I actually haven't seen a single person NOT wanting it to have ap3... The commandos would like some of their weapons to have AP... NONE of ours do... Which is dumb... And by the way, the only one being whiney is you, Zarlak...

err sorry, the second time i said ap3 i meant ap2

Tank piercing rifles? What tank piercing rifles? Give me the name of a single man-portable anti-tank rifle as evidence of your claim!

Sniper rifles are sub-sonic, and do not penetrate armor. Sniper bullets are designed to do maximum damage, which causes them to fail when they hit armor. (Hollow point bullets do the most damage, but are incapable of penetrating armor because they pancake on it. A direct example of high damage, low AP.) Pick up a Jane's and check it out. E=1/2mv*v. When v drops, energy drops significantly.

THERE ARE NO ANTI-TANK SNIPER RIFLES.

There are recoilless rifles, which are a type of rocket launcher. These can kill tanks.

I'll say it again: When you hit a human with a rocket, apply the confetti effect. If he has armor, apply the confetti effect to the armor too. You're lucky if you find a corpse to return to the family.

When you hit someone with a sniper bullet, put a hole in their head, and any exit wound is larger than entry. If the head had a kevlar helmet, the bullet may not penetrate. Snipers aim at parts of the body that are not armored.

I think the hype is about the Barrett .50 cal rifle Kreistor.

It is possible to take out vehicles with it. Jeeps, trucks, lightly armored personel carriers.

The .50 round would definately pierce anything a human could wear.

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Zarl0k wrote:

.We are the ONLY god **edit** profession, next to maybe squad leader, that hasn't had a single god **edit** actual "fix" since this game went live.

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Zarl0k,

Grow up and quit trolling. Most commandos dont want anyone else nerfed they just want something fixed. And if you want to compare whats been broke with the rifleman vs commando its not even close. And about the ONLY real fix commandos have had was changing the launcher pistoler xp to heavy weapon xp. EVERYTHING else under the commando profession is worthless right now. Answer this: Did you have to wait over a month since you reached Novice Rifleman to even have the ability to earn your first rifle xp? So dont come in here trolling about rifleman issues. We respect those issues and the riflemen profession but not people that come in here like you.

Uhm... don't about 10 other light and medium machine guns (true support/heavy weapons) use the same ammo, with the same results?

Armor piercing bullets are bad against soft targets. The bullets don't tumble or deform, so they do less damage, and don't have stopping power. Yeah, they go through the armor, but without hitting a vital organ, the enemy keeps shooting back.

Zarlok - you truly are a troll. How in the world do you compare a rifle to a Rocket Launcher and say they have the highest armor penetration. Seriously you are retarded for thinking that. That's why the real world makes things like LAW's, SMAW, and the SRAW that are ALL rocket propelled systems desgined specifically for the destruction of tanks, all of which are individual weapons.AllTanksare all heavily armored (comparison to At-st). They make the M82 smiper rifle for the destruction of LIGHT armored vehicles. You honetly think a sniper rifle would even dent a heavy armor tank? moron.

Correct AP is bad against a soft target, correct the .50 cal M2 does already do this.

You really dont need an armor piercing round with a .50 cal round to penetrate a jeep though, or for that matter the body armor a human can currently wear.

It's really a great sniper round.

I am not agreeing with Zardok, at all. Was just pointing out what weapon brought on all this hype.

Well, JVoss, some might disagree there. Since it's a supersonic round, it's loud and gives away the sniper's position. The current trend is to subsonic, heavier rounds that retain the damage potential, sacrifice the AP, and don't give away the shooter's position.

On an active battlefield, yeah, it would be a good sniper rifle, but as a sneaking and also skulking sniper weapon, it would be too loud.

I have no military experience... But I DID read the book black hawk down... hehe.. anyway, in the book there was a part when they were talking about the M4A1s the Delta boys were using.. the had a new ammunition that they used that they found out was not very good against the unarmored targets... The bullet would just go through the person, not stopping them at all, so all the other Delta were jealous of the one guy who had kept his old M16.. It had stopping power so instead of taking 6 or 7 bullets to down someone they'd be gone in 1 hit... Sorry if that doesn't make sense I was pretty much just trying to sound smart

Ah, but the range on the .50 is very, very nice. The ballistic path is greater, flatter, then most other rounds.

The Barrett seems to be the current weapon of choice for some snipers. I have only fired it once, so I do not know how it compensates for the sound, perhaps some sort of suppression.

We used ot set the M2 up to single shot, put a scope on it. You can easily hit a target out to 1k meters. Especially on the tripod mount.

As long as you only fire once though, then it will be very hard for them to identify your location. They will already know you are there, when their officer drops at their feet. Relocate, wait, and then shoot again.

I liked my M14 and the 7.62 round was good enough for me.

What round is heaver then the .50 that is being used ????