Commando Archive
Thread: Anyone going to pick up the LLC tree now?
Yoda2397
Wed Jun 30, 2004 8:18 pm
#14
I sure am thinkin about it.... thinkin real hard. I like the LLC, andthink it'd be worth checking out. I'll dabble and keep Master Commando. Love the title, not the profession (yet). 
Raptor2k1
Wed Jun 30, 2004 10:12 pm
#15
With this new change, the bounty hunter profession has become the most dabbler-encouraging profession where anyone can come in to pick and choose as they wish.
Maybe it's just me, but shouldn't it really have been that way from the start? Bounty hunters come in all different shapes and sizes with all sorts of different skills, and until this patch all MBH's had extremely similar templates for the most-part. IMO having the skill-cost it does now on TC, it's ideal, as the BH can choose a weapon skillto specialize in, effectively creatingaround 8 different types ofpotential MBH/Master Combat profession varieties.
garvin
Wed Jun 30, 2004 10:47 pm
#16
Interesting thoughts you bring to mind Hellshot...interesting...
On a side note...the way we see BH now doesn't mean that is the way it will be around the time of the CB...I've heard rumblings (mostly in their forum) that there are changes in the works...
Plus, if they take away pre-reqs, the devs might decide to take something else away for "balance"...so it might be a bit early to make plans...But as is, I do agree that the pistol and the LLC are 2 good ways to go, and as far as I know, the LLC tree uses the same Heavy Weapon XP as our Profession does, so most of us already have enough XP to fly up that tree...
Jazzminn
Thu Jul 01, 2004 12:05 am
#17
LLC will be a good one to pick up. Another damage type with armor piercing is always welcome to our arsenal. And since you get no additional LLC mods at master bounty hunter, all you will need is LLC4 to be at peak efficiency. What I liked better about the LLC is that it didn't have this horrendous downtime between and after specials.
Hellshot
Thu Jul 01, 2004 12:11 am
#18
Jaxin_Riens wrote:
no go bh pistol for lp you get 80 speed and 80 accuracy as oppposed to 74 at master pistol and 95 accuracy, i know the accuracy is lower but the speed is great and you get soem damn good specials. eye shot torso shot and bleed shot.
The trade off though is that you get more defense mods in the pistoleer tree. Thats one thing I am trying to balance out myself, but I think that its better to have higher damage ouput then ranged/melee defense when fighting high level mobs given how frequently they hit anyway.
Ravenspite
Thu Jul 01, 2004 4:31 am
#19
I had mixed feelings when I originally read that the Bounty Hunters were getting this change implemented now.
Although I realise that the BH's out there need some love and in no way resent them this boost to their profession, it seemed grossly unfair that the answer that gets thrown at us commandos for every issue we have is either "wait for the combat rebalance" or "we won't be imlementing any changes to combat profs until at least the CB"... and yet suddenly the BH's out there get this show of support from the devs while we once again are left to rot in the gutter.
Cynicism about that aside... once the CB does finally go live I'd also be very tempted if it transpires that (as has already been suggested) all commando weapons end up working off one skill mod (heavy Weapons) and that the BH's LLC also works off the same mod - that means we could boost the speed and accuracy available at master commando by picking up some BH as well.
Throw in some pistoleer and the BH pistols line and you'd also end up with some very nice uses for our LP, plus the possibility of our own pistol mods maybe being introduced at the CB
Ok, ok, I realise a lot of this is based on speculation and "if this" or "if only that"... but right now Master Commando, Pistoleer 0/0/4/0 and BH 0/0/3/4 is looking like a very versatile template.
Druce Bayne
Warmaker01
Thu Jul 01, 2004 2:14 pm
#20
Ravenspite, the template at the bottom of your post looks good for more offense with the LP. I'll throw in this too: M.Commando/BH 0044/Medic 1000. Gives you a chance to heal yourself a little at least. You however won't be as good with the pistols as your build.
or, to max out on the L.Pistol:
N.Commando/BH 0040/M.Pistoleer/Smuggler 0040. You should get very high pistol mods and access to alot of pistol specials. Pistol Acc. of 155, Pistol Speed 129, Acc. while moving 30, Acc. while standing 15. You get the bonus of Feign Death if things get hairy in the DWB. You will also be certified with practically all the pistols in the game. Geonosian, Scatter, DX-2, Launcher Pistol, etc. And think of the possibilties of lagging your opponent to death! 
"If they can be fooled, they can be killed."
Hellshot
Thu Jul 01, 2004 2:20 pm
#21
Long term I am thinking M.Commando, 0004 BH, novice medic, 4400 combat prowess, 4400 enhanced defenses. That would give me the one the reusable damage type that commandoes are lacking (electricity), terrain negotiation and maskscent, the ability to heal myself, increase my speed and accuracy with my guns, and provide some extra defense.
droidmakerman
Thu Jul 01, 2004 6:25 pm
#22
im trying:
commando 0040, BH 3044, smug 0040, medic 3200,
scout 4000, brawler 4000, master marks
Good electric, flame and blast damage, and feign death with good heals- and decent hunting skills with BH
Dark_Jedi_Knight_11
Thu Jul 01, 2004 10:26 pm
#23
commando /bh does it get any better. the ultimate merc.
TechBoss
Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:43 am
#24
I've been thinking about this:
Master Marksman
Scout 4000
Brawler 4000
Artisian 0034 (until publish 10, I have to make credits some how)
Commando 0040
Pistoleer 0040
Bounty Hunter 0044
This allows me to use all but one pistol in the game, the DE-10, and gives me a long range cone special in fanshot. I will also have 85 speed, which will be very nice. The downside would be the fact that I have no real defenses. I don't know what I am really going to do.
Towim
Fri Jul 02, 2004 12:55 pm
#25
I'm going to keep as many commado skills as I already have for now in hopes commando makes out well in the CB.
Looking at Commando 3440, BH 0044, TKA 4004, with all the pre reqs of course.
May drop the TKA and switch to 4004 pistoleer. that will give me less ranged and a bit less melee defense but I'll still have ranged mitigation 2 and I'll be trading the meditate in on 80 dodge
not sure which will work better but I'm kinda addicted to meditate now that I have it.
-Towim Hode - Lowca
-Lofate - TC
GuntherSlag
Fri Jul 02, 2004 8:39 pm
#26
If you don't mind dropping Master Commando try taking the BH pistol line with the Smuggler pistol line. I'm currently a BH 4040, Novice Commando, Smuggler 0040. I attacked a jedi mark the other day and I guess I lagged him out with the Launcher pistol cause he was kinda spinning around in circles trying to figure out what the hell was happening. Low Blow, spam Last Ditch with Launcher at pistol speed cap. It was a truly awesome site. One continuous explosion.
When the BH prerequisites go live I plan on Commando 0040 and Pistoleer 0441. This should fully max out the Launcher pistol's potential and give me a little flame for touch ups.
When the BH prerequisites go live I plan on Commando 0040 and Pistoleer 0441. This should fully max out the Launcher pistol's potential and give me a little flame for touch ups.