Commando Archive

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StarNick wrote:

Heh that'd be cool, a whole line of commando's with E-Webbs. All ready, and pissed at the year and a half of frustration...and ready to show their opponents just how much they feel about it...

THAT be fun to watch...

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I can see it now:

Commando 1: Hey, with the CURB finally out, we can go test some things.

Commando 2: Like?

Commando 1: Well, I got this Weaponsmith to make me like 10 E-Webs.

Commando 2: Let's go dominate the galaxy.

here is a novel idea to kinda help balance it.
If you use an area attack with the e-web, it doesn't discriminate targets. I.E. Friendly Fire.
(I always thought this should be the case for AOE attacks, but have found little support for my idea)

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Duragoth wrote:

Cpl_Fisher wrote:

I think it says in the manual that 15 mins is what it takes o set up a M-2.

although any infantry marine will tell you that an m-2 firing position set up in more than two minutes is shameful, and that includes headspace, timing, and aiming stakes.

seriously, though, i love the idea. a crew fired weapon would bring back the Heavy in commando.

it doesnt even need to have a higher damage rate than the average gun. it just needs to shoot further and faster.

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No offence but I was an O331 (MG) in the Marine Corps. and that 15 min. inclueded making a range card (to pre-list possible targets) and even then 15 min. is grossly over rated. it really should be done within 5min at most. I think the E-Web seen in ESB would have been setup in maybe 1min at most, but if time was allowed maybe 5min at max.

Message Edited by Duragoth on 02-07-2005 05:33 PM

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Like ANGLICO?

Instead of gunfire from water based ships, Star Wars orbital bombardments from a Star Destroyer?

/grin

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nbd9k wrote:

thats perfect! although, you would probably want to make it a faction based trait, or make it available based on how much of a presence the empire or rebellion maintains in that system- thus imperial easier on naboo and corillia, rebel easier on tat, lok, yavin etc.

now how would you integrate bracketting into that? i wouldnt want to guarentee 100% acuracy.

wait.. better idea. never mind the naval gunfire. why dont we stay on thread--->

weve been thinking in a manner relevant to small unit tactics and small arms fire. lets stay that way: squad mortar system.

we make it available as a squadleader/commando thingie, like the E-web line, and we employ it in a similar fashion. the mortar squad sets up, possibly a few thousand meters from the battlefield. a forward observer calls back to the fireline, and the squadleader shouts the coords to launch a co-ordinated volley of rounds to that location.

we can keep it real- 3 rounds for bracketing followed by a strike on the targeted area. a 60mm mortar has a 30m casualty radius and a 5m kill radius, all factors the game should be able to handle in a fashion similar to grenades.

Out on the table- whats everyone think?

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Message Edited by Warmaker01 on 02-09-2005 03:56 AM

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Warmaker01 wrote:

Will the player have to make the adjustments? Or will Master Squad Leaders and Master Commandos get an accuracy bonus?

* Also, how about making the rounds a hazard to all in the radius?

* Allowing deviation/less accuracy will be a nice. Master Squad Leaders and Master Commandos get to lessen the deviation of rounds if they act as the forward observers.

* If the mortar/artillery group has LOS (Line of Sight) to the targets and within the standard 64m SWG range, the benefits could be the same as having Master SL/Commandos observing.

* Allow the targetting of points on the player's screen via the forward observer. To call artillery, I don't need ahostile target in sight at all times, just the area.

* Via the world map, artillery can be fired upon an area without an observer. However, rounds will be very, very inaccurate.

Damage types from a mortar type of weapon can be variable, depending on the stack of grenades loaded... similiar to the grenade launcher/rocket launcher revampideas that was floating around here a while back.

How many SWG players will be required to crew the mortar/artillery piece (not counting observer)? Would the crew need a certification in Squad Leader or Commando?

Message Edited by Warmaker01 on 02-09-2005 03:56 AM

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Sounds great. I came up with some stuff, but since I was never a mortarman, I can't give good specifics.

As for the limited 64m range, I was saying it in the case of the crew trying to fire within visual range and with direct LOS to the target/area, sort of like firing as if the crew was a single player with a T21 or somefink. The players can't even really see that far before items appear in the horizon.

But if fired indirectly how far out can we say these things will reach?

Ranged is somwhat gimped generally since a Rifleman can only reach out to 64m. And we can't make these things reach 1/2 way across the gameworlds.

Like firing mortar rounds from Bestine into Anchorhead! Hahahah!

Message Edited by Warmaker01 on 02-09-2005 08:56 AM

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nbd9k wrote:

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Duragoth wrote:

Cpl_Fisher wrote:

I think it says in the manual that 15 mins is what it takes o set up a M-2.

although any infantry marine will tell you that an m-2 firing position set up in more than two minutes is shameful, and that includes headspace, timing, and aiming stakes.

seriously, though, i love the idea. a crew fired weapon would bring back the Heavy in commando.

it doesnt even need to have a higher damage rate than the average gun. it just needs to shoot further and faster.

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No offence but I was an O331 (MG) in the Marine Corps. and that 15 min. inclueded making a range card (to pre-list possible targets) and even then 15 min. is grossly over rated. it really should be done within 5min at most. I think the E-Web seen in ESB would have been setup in maybe 1min at most, but if time was allowed maybe 5min at max.

Message Edited by Duragoth on 02-07-2005 05:33 PM

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you think a guy with the screen name Cpl fisher might have had something to do with the marine corps? there are Marines and former Marines all over the commando server, because we all share that special love of blowing things up. youre inspiring a new thread out of me.

just keep in mind the data we share is qualified by the fact that we do have to inform civilians about it.

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what happened to that thread?

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Warmaker01 wrote:
Sounds great. I came up with some stuff, but since I was never a mortarman, I can't give good specifics.

As for the limited 64m range, I was saying it in the case of the crew trying to fire within visual range and with direct LOS to the target/area, sort of like firing as if the crew was a single player with a T21 or somefink. The players can't even really see that far before items appear in the horizon.

But if fired indirectly how far out can we say these things will reach?

Ranged is somwhat gimped generally since a Rifleman can only reach out to 64m. And we can't make these things reach 1/2 way across the gameworlds.

Like firing mortar rounds from Bestine into Anchorhead! Hahahah!

Message Edited by Warmaker01 on 02-09-2005 08:56 AM

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