Commando Archive

Thread: Ok im seriously angery

KJFett
Tue Apr 05, 2005 9:30 am
#14






Palad wrote:





Smoki wrote:
I think you guys need to accept the fact that

A NPC COMMANDO IS NOT A PLAYER COMMANDO...

That being said, If you were a npc commando, you would be much smarter then all the NPC commandos and it wouldnt take long before they promoted you, and gave you some assault armor?

I'm a rebel and personally have never seen the armor im about to be issued in any starwars movie/cartoon but im not complaining cause I can't wear a yellow/red spec-ops duster like my npc equivalent

If you realy want scout trooper armor go rifleman... mabey the armor can be turned black in the crafting process as an extention of the customization. But either way, I've never seen a commando npc pull a commando weapon... mabey we should change the name of the profession to Heavy Weapon Specialist.

Would that please you?

-Smo'ki



No, this isnt about the npcs in game having scout trooper armor. That is authentic from the EU also. They are called the black scouts because of the trademark black scout armor that hides detection from sensors. They become the most feared unit in the empire because of how stealthy, tactical, and fearsome they are. The rebellion grew to respect the commandos greatly and when they saw a black scout in his trademark armor they knew a real fight was comming. It is the style and attitude and reputation that comes with the black scout armor. Its a trademark of imperial commandos and needs to be upheld.





And thus why you are wrong. You are not a commando is this elite unit. The commandos of that unit get black recon armor. You don't because you are not apart of the unit. We are commandos, thatin no way means we are acommando in an elite organization. The black recon armor is what identifies that one unit. Only those in that unit would have it. Everyone else would be issued a suit that meet the needs of the planet they are stationed. Some could be in snowtrooper armor. After all, the invasion of Hoth had commandos, and they were not wearing black recon armor. The enviroment demanded a different suit.


Its like getting mad that a flight game doesnt put tiger teeth on all American fighters in the world war 2 era. Only one squadron was renowned for that. Others copied it. Didnt make them Flying Tigers tho, and the ones without tiger teeth were no less of a pilot.


Shoot, the fact that the NPCs have black recon should be what you are mad about. Like the members of a crack commando team of the Empire is going to be assigned to follow around some guy on his quest to kill 2000 bols and the occasional rebel NPC that is passed.



Anika Mon'Sulu
Taurril
Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:44 am
#15






Wolfmann31 wrote:

What upsets me, is that the devs, blatantly disregard everything known about the Stormtroopers.


Stormtroopers, are the heavy armored assault unit of the empire. they didnt have any "assault trooper" wearing a bulky darktrooper miniature armor.


Heavy trooper in the Empire = Stormtrooper

Medium trooper in the Empire = Scout trooper

Light trooper in the Empire = Army/Navy Comabt trooper.


But, since the devs have forgotten how to make open faced helmets, they have forgotten that armors don't need to cover every inch of your body, they create a abomination of an armor, based on the looks of the Darktrooper armor. an armor, no trooper would want to go near.


If you were a cop, and someone made a Robocop to take over your job, but the whole project failed, so they then told you that you had to dress up like that robocop. Would you go "wheee! I get to dress up as that thing that tried to take my job!"



And for the record, Black Scout armor, should be the Imperial commandos trademark. As a specforce armor for the Rebel Commandos should have been. (If the devs have figured out how to make open face helmets, and actually read Star Wars books)


Saying that we "aint them" is like saying, we dont need stormtrooper armor because we aint stormtroopers, we dont need ubese armor because we're not of the ubese specie, we dont need marine armor, because we aint rebel marines. We don't need the Empire or the Rebellion, because we aint part of it really.





That's not what he was saying. He said that we were not part of the specific unit that was granted the black Scout Trooper armor, he did not say that we weren't allowed to wear that armor for the reasons that you listed.


Example:Storm Squadron pilots don't get torun the same missions as Imperial Inquisition pilots,simply because they aren't members of that specific squadron.


That's not necessarily true, but that's what I'mgetting at, and that's what he was saying earlier.




TK-132
Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:57 am
#16

Palad don't think of yourself as a Storm Commando. Cause honestly no player can be a Stormtrooper. It's always been clear that players are the exceptional, not your everyday fresh from the academy troopers.

You are an Imperial Commando. That means you could look entirely different. Some tough guy officer who runs around with a Rocket Launcher. Storm Commandos aren't Heavy Weapons Troopers. A Commando (Player) is a Heavy Weapons Trooper or some such thing. Maybe you'll be lucky and there will be a color choice for black and you can just pick up rifleman or something.

Imperial Players are like Officers more or less so they can wear the armor they need. As for the Devs incarnation of Assualt Armor I dunno. I think it's ugly. Is it really going to be so that we can only wear bulk armor as Commandos (Not that I don't like bulk armors). So I have to get other professions to wear other types of armor? What if I don't have the right template does that mean no more of my normal ST armor or what?



Major Bluko Oll
Imperial High Command
Master Commando
Black Epsilon Ace

"Many things are said, but few are true."
Enix_Dayspring
Tue Apr 05, 2005 1:08 pm
#17








Palad wrote:


No, this isnt about the npcs in game having scout trooper armor. That is authentic from the EU also. They are called the black scouts because of the trademark black scout armor that hides detection from sensors. They become the most feared unit in the empire because of how stealthy, tactical, and fearsome they are. The rebellion grew to respect the commandos greatly and when they saw a black scout in his trademark armor they knew a real fight was comming. It is the style and attitude and reputation that comes with the black scout armor. Its a trademark of imperial commandos and needs to be upheld.







Just pretend that the Empire did not consider you qualified for this elite group because all you do is WHINE AND COMPLAIN.


Just because you say you're a storm commando doesn't make you one.



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JohboBocal
Tue Apr 05, 2005 1:16 pm
#18






Enix_Dayspring wrote:




Just pretend that the Empire did not consider you qualified for this elite group because all you do is WHINE AND COMPLAIN.


Just because you say you're a storm commando doesn't make you one.





Here is a link to what I believe the Devs would respond to many of us . . .


http://www.greetingsandsuckme.org/


Enjoy.






Jobo & Jobi

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Mos Nova, Tatooine
Taurril
Tue Apr 05, 2005 2:58 pm
#19






JohboBocal wrote:





Enix_Dayspring wrote:




Just pretend that the Empire did not consider you qualified for this elite group because all you do is WHINE AND COMPLAIN.


Just because you say you're a storm commando doesn't make you one.





Here is a link to what I believe the Devs would respond to many of us . . .


http://www.greetingsandsuckme.org/


Enjoy.








"Greetings and suck me.org"


Hahahah! Pretty funny (I'm not going to the link, I no longer go to links given at forums- bad expierences...)...
Masal
Tue Apr 05, 2005 3:25 pm
#20

I am in favor of the black commando armor as well. As far as I know its mostly from the RPG stuff. But I think it looks very cool. And looks are part of the game for some. Its Role playing. The look can set a tone. Plus everyone would know your a commando if only we can get the black colored stuff.


Maybe it can be a loot item, or better yet a quest for master commandos. That way you see guy in the all black armor and you know not only is he a commando he is a master commando. Like RIS was before the mad spawns. You knew that that person was either hideously rich, had too much time on his hands, or what I did to get mine way back... was the best at his craft ( with help from many friends :smileyhappy.


So, yes I want Storm Commando armor. Make it have all the stats of the Assault armor I dont care, I just want the look.


Caleban once and futrue Master Commando / Master Smuggler ... should never have deleted the wookie of doom!
Palad
Tue Apr 05, 2005 3:32 pm
#21


http://www.starwars.com/databank/organization/stormcommandos/eu.html


This is the OFFICAL star wars site, with information on the storm commandos, their armor, the look, their traits, and trainer crix madine. This shows and says storm commandos WEAR BLACK SCOUT TROOPER ARMOR


http://www.starwars.com/databank/updates/news20030522.html


P.S. A full list of all troopers serving in the empire at the time of palpatine from the EU. The big clunky assult trooper armor would have existed, but commandos wore the black scout trooper armor that refracted light and sensors away from the trooper, in affect turning him camoflodged in some cases.

Message Edited by Palad on 04-05-2005 03:43 PM



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Enix_Dayspring
Tue Apr 05, 2005 5:20 pm
#22






Palad wrote:


http://www.starwars.com/databank/organization/stormcommandos/eu.html


This is the OFFICAL star wars site, with information on the storm commandos, their armor, the look, their traits, and trainer crix madine. This shows and says storm commandos WEAR BLACK SCOUT TROOPER ARMOR


http://www.starwars.com/databank/updates/news20030522.html


P.S. A full list of all troopers serving in the empire at the time of palpatine from the EU. The big clunky assult trooper armor would have existed, but commandos wore the black scout trooper armor that refracted light and sensors away from the trooper, in affect turning him camoflodged in some cases.

Message Edited by Palad on 04-05-2005 03:43 PM






Yes but just because you're in the commando profession doesn't make you one of the elite Storm Commandos.


Just like not every commando in the U.S. military is part of Delta Force.




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Pyrrhus
Sunrunner

Palad
Tue Apr 05, 2005 5:35 pm
#23






Enix_Dayspring wrote:





Palad wrote:


http://www.starwars.com/databank/organization/stormcommandos/eu.html


This is the OFFICAL star wars site, with information on the storm commandos, their armor, the look, their traits, and trainer crix madine. This shows and says storm commandos WEAR BLACK SCOUT TROOPER ARMOR


http://www.starwars.com/databank/updates/news20030522.html


P.S. A full list of all troopers serving in the empire at the time of palpatine from the EU. The big clunky assult trooper armor would have existed, but commandos wore the black scout trooper armor that refracted light and sensors away from the trooper, in affect turning him camoflodged in some cases.

Message Edited by Palad on 04-05-2005 03:43 PM






Yes but just because you're in the commando profession doesn't make you one of the elite Storm Commandos.


Just like not every commando in the U.S. military is part of Delta Force.







Huray! lets say more dumb things, like just cause you use the force, run around with a light saber, and have the title jedi doesnt MEAN your a jedi, it just means the title and stuff is on loan!



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Whirr
Tue Apr 05, 2005 5:58 pm
#24

Is Shock Trooper armor already in game? Any screenshots of what it looks like?
Enix_Dayspring
Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:04 pm
#25






Palad wrote:





Enix_Dayspring wrote:





Palad wrote:


http://www.starwars.com/databank/organization/stormcommandos/eu.html


This is the OFFICAL star wars site, with information on the storm commandos, their armor, the look, their traits, and trainer crix madine. This shows and says storm commandos WEAR BLACK SCOUT TROOPER ARMOR


http://www.starwars.com/databank/updates/news20030522.html


P.S. A full list of all troopers serving in the empire at the time of palpatine from the EU. The big clunky assult trooper armor would have existed, but commandos wore the black scout trooper armor that refracted light and sensors away from the trooper, in affect turning him camoflodged in some cases.

Message Edited by Palad on 04-05-2005 03:43 PM






Yes but just because you're in the commando profession doesn't make you one of the elite Storm Commandos.


Just like not every commando in the U.S. military is part of Delta Force.







Huray! lets say more dumb things, like just cause you use the force, run around with a light saber, and have the title jedi doesnt MEAN your a jedi, it just means the title and stuff is on loan!






You can pretend to be whatever you want to in the game. It's called role playing. But that doesn't mean that the developers have to cater to your personal wishes.


The breakdown of it is, they had limited time and resources to make new armor types. They wanted commandos to get assault armor. Several other professions are also getting assault armor.


If they had made assault armor the black commando armor youre complaining we didnt get, but bounty hunters and squad leaders got it, you'd be complaining that since they aren't commandos, they shouldnt have it.




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Pyrrhus
Sunrunner

Palad
Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:22 pm
#26






Enix_Dayspring wrote:





Palad wrote:





Enix_Dayspring wrote:





Palad wrote:


http://www.starwars.com/databank/organization/stormcommandos/eu.html


This is the OFFICAL star wars site, with information on the storm commandos, their armor, the look, their traits, and trainer crix madine. This shows and says storm commandos WEAR BLACK SCOUT TROOPER ARMOR


http://www.starwars.com/databank/updates/news20030522.html


P.S. A full list of all troopers serving in the empire at the time of palpatine from the EU. The big clunky assult trooper armor would have existed, but commandos wore the black scout trooper armor that refracted light and sensors away from the trooper, in affect turning him camoflodged in some cases.

Message Edited by Palad on 04-05-2005 03:43 PM






Yes but just because you're in the commando profession doesn't make you one of the elite Storm Commandos.


Just like not every commando in the U.S. military is part of Delta Force.







Huray! lets say more dumb things, like just cause you use the force, run around with a light saber, and have the title jedi doesnt MEAN your a jedi, it just means the title and stuff is on loan!






You can pretend to be whatever you want to in the game. It's called role playing. But that doesn't mean that the developers have to cater to your personal wishes.


The breakdown of it is, they had limited time and resources to make new armor types. They wanted commandos to get assault armor. Several other professions are also getting assault armor.


If they had made assault armor the black commando armor youre complaining we didnt get, but bounty hunters and squad leaders got it, you'd be complaining that since they aren't commandos, they shouldnt have it.








Yeah, since all my posts indicate that I want to have both assult trooper and scout trooper armor...No wait no they dont


And what extra work? you are acting like they have to completely code the armor from scratch. Guess what, that color and type of armor is ALLREADY IN GAME! its as simple as changing a bit of code and replacing assult armor with black scout armor as commando armor.




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