Commando Archive
Thread: Ok im seriously angery
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Palad
Mon Apr 04, 2005 6:18 pm
#1
Ok I just read about the dumb armor certifications on professions. So storm trooper armor is for carbine specialist, scout trooper armor is for rifleman, assult trooper is for ? What do commandos get? if you say we are not getting the factional armor at all im going to give this game up for good, and mean it this time.
Knightcrest
Mon Apr 04, 2005 6:24 pm
#2
AssaultArmor is certified for Commando, but what ever else you dabble in may have something different so you will be able to use that armor for it's pros and cons.
Message Edited by Knightcrest on 04-04-2005 08:25 PM
Palad
Mon Apr 04, 2005 6:25 pm
#3
Nevermind, I just looked at it. We get assult armor. I guess the idea of following the EU in the slightest and making our armor blackscout trooper armor was out of the question, I dont even think this should be called starwars anymore.
KJFett
Mon Apr 04, 2005 6:57 pm
#4
Palad wrote:
Nevermind, I just looked at it. We get assult armor. I guess the idea of following the EU in the slightest and making our armor blackscout trooper armor was out of the question, I dont even think this should be called starwars anymore.
Why would you gripe about that?! Commando gets some really sharp looking assault armor and you are mad that they arent getting a black clone of what Pistoleers and Riflemen are getting?
Is it so far out of reach that commandos in the Imperial Navy/Army would not all wear black scout armor? Is it that hard to buy that they may have heavy armor? In a navy with Millions of personnel, a navy that occupies thousands of systems...you want to say that the armor doesnt follow EU? Please.
Palad
Mon Apr 04, 2005 7:18 pm
#5
KJFett wrote:
Palad wrote:
Nevermind, I just looked at it. We get assult armor. I guess the idea of following the EU in the slightest and making our armor blackscout trooper armor was out of the question, I dont even think this should be called starwars anymore.
Why would you gripe about that?! Commando gets some really sharp looking assault armor and you are mad that they arent getting a black clone of what Pistoleers and Riflemen are getting?
Is it so far out of reach that commandos in the Imperial Navy/Army would not all wear black scout armor? Is it that hard to buy that they may have heavy armor? In a navy with Millions of personnel, a navy that occupies thousands of systems...you want to say that the armor doesnt follow EU? Please.
Actually it is far out of reach. the black scout armor is the very trademark of the storm commando's. It would be common sense to add that color/armor type to the commando tree to sort of...resemble what storm commandos look like. Assult trooper armor is cool, but it again IS NOT THE INSIGNIA OF STORM COMMANDO'S. But what should I expect from a game that also decided jedi should be the norm and darth vader should be smackable.
Smoki
Mon Apr 04, 2005 7:25 pm
#6
I think you guys need to accept the fact that
A NPC COMMANDO IS NOT A PLAYER COMMANDO...
That being said, If you were a npc commando, you would be much smarter then all the NPC commandos and it wouldnt take long before they promoted you, and gave you some assault armor?
I'm a rebel and personally have never seen the armor im about to be issued in any starwars movie/cartoon but im not complaining cause I can't wear a yellow/red spec-ops duster like my npc equivalent
If you realy want scout trooper armor go rifleman... mabey the armor can be turned black in the crafting process as an extention of the customization. But either way, I've never seen a commando npc pull a commando weapon... mabey we should change the name of the profession to Heavy Weapon Specialist.
Would that please you?
-Smo'ki
A NPC COMMANDO IS NOT A PLAYER COMMANDO...
That being said, If you were a npc commando, you would be much smarter then all the NPC commandos and it wouldnt take long before they promoted you, and gave you some assault armor?
I'm a rebel and personally have never seen the armor im about to be issued in any starwars movie/cartoon but im not complaining cause I can't wear a yellow/red spec-ops duster like my npc equivalent
If you realy want scout trooper armor go rifleman... mabey the armor can be turned black in the crafting process as an extention of the customization. But either way, I've never seen a commando npc pull a commando weapon... mabey we should change the name of the profession to Heavy Weapon Specialist.
Would that please you?
-Smo'ki
Darknyt13
Mon Apr 04, 2005 7:31 pm
#7
Palad wrote:
Nevermind, I just looked at it. We get assult armor. I guess the idea of following the EU in the slightest and making our armor blackscout trooper armor was out of the question, I dont even think this should be called starwars anymore.
I've been struggling with the same thing as a Carbineer. I've been on TC-5 and gone through most of the threads and tried dozens of tmplate combos on the CU character builders. If you want an "authentic" Storm Commando (similar to the factional pet/ NPC) Here's what u do:
Master Commando
Master Rifleman (Scout armor, Storm Commando Faction pet usually busts out their rifle after tossing a few grenades)
Marksman 4444 (gives both E11 Carbine cert and Scout Blaster Cert)
and you still have enough skill points for 1 full line in either Pistoleer or Carbineer, or Novice Scout + Exploration III
OR
If you're okay with not being a Master Commando
Master Pistoleer
Master Rifleman
Commando 4400
gives +35 general ranged accuracy, +5 general ranged speed, +20 melee defense, +10 ranged defense over the first template, but restricts you to recon armor only and no E11 carbine.
Message Edited by Darknyt13 on 04-04-2005 07:32 PM
Message Edited by Darknyt13 on 04-05-2005 03:03 AM
Palad
Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:07 pm
#8
No, this isnt about the npcs in game having scout trooper armor. That is authentic from the EU also. They are called the black scouts because of the trademark black scout armor that hides detection from sensors. They become the most feared unit in the empire because of how stealthy, tactical, and fearsome they are. The rebellion grew to respect the commandos greatly and when they saw a black scout in his trademark armor they knew a real fight was comming. It is the style and attitude and reputation that comes with the black scout armor. Its a trademark of imperial commandos and needs to be upheld.
Smoki wrote:
I think you guys need to accept the fact that
A NPC COMMANDO IS NOT A PLAYER COMMANDO...
That being said, If you were a npc commando, you would be much smarter then all the NPC commandos and it wouldnt take long before they promoted you, and gave you some assault armor?
I'm a rebel and personally have never seen the armor im about to be issued in any starwars movie/cartoon but im not complaining cause I can't wear a yellow/red spec-ops duster like my npc equivalent
If you realy want scout trooper armor go rifleman... mabey the armor can be turned black in the crafting process as an extention of the customization. But either way, I've never seen a commando npc pull a commando weapon... mabey we should change the name of the profession to Heavy Weapon Specialist.
Would that please you?
-Smo'ki
knighttom
Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:43 pm
#9
ok after playing this game for well since it started i have come to the conclusion that the devs have not read the books on swg i have am i mad no
do i wish they did yes but this is a game
frick i dont think lucas has even read the same books as us
do i wish they did yes but this is a game
frick i dont think lucas has even read the same books as us
Raptor2k1
Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:50 pm
#10
I'll be honest, I've read a good portion of the EU and I can't remember where it mentioned anything about Storm Commandos, let alone their black scout trooper armor - even once. Who's to say that wasn't at a different point in the Star Wars timeline anyways?
It's not that big a deal. If it means that much to you, go rifleman so you can get the light armor. It's not like choosing commando eats up all your skill points; not all commandosare the lightly armored, swift-footed sniper types.
Cougar959
Mon Apr 04, 2005 11:08 pm
#11
Hmm, any chance that when the armor is created it could perhaps be turned to the color black if you would so like.
JagdKatze
Mon Apr 04, 2005 11:23 pm
#12
Actually Cougar from the breakdown of the new armour system that AS's will be working with there is a customizeable' tab where you can put different stuff in. MAYBE (because its just speculation) we can FINALLY get shoulder pauldrons as Stormtroopers, or tint our ST/Scout/Assault armour different shades of black and white (but still colorless). I would hope to God that the devs wouldnt be so retarded as to disallow what ALREADY EXISTS for all the NPCs to be placed on the new stuff, like the full-size trooper backpacks for Sandtroopers, shoulder pauldrons with different colors based on rank and position, and maybe a thigh holster for your E-11 (even if its non-functional). That'd be awesome. Will it ever happen? Prolly not. How hard it is to create a new backpack? Just use the same code as the other ones and tag a Sandtrooper backpack model onto it!
But dont hold your breath. I'd be seriously surprised if this kind of awesome cosmetic stuff EVER gets implemented. >_<
Bonestrand
Mon Apr 04, 2005 11:34 pm
#13
Also please dont forget that every piece of armor has a slot ofr image enhancements, I may be completely wrong but I expect to see alot of changeable features for every type of armor. I expect the scout armor will be able to have altered colors due to the fact that it is a armor suited for many different climates. I expect the heavy armor will have alterable colors and maybe even varying emblem alterations.
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