Commando Archive
Thread: To all you wanna be commandos about the 2X damage
aye Gairon, however getting one shot by a greater womp rat who cons red to you when you equip the launcher pistol does make sense if you are holding a flamethower and he now cons blue to you...why? the con does not really identify the mob challenge correctly...
Holo does not have a clue about the Commando class, it was he and q3PO who said we were wroking as intended back when we were broekn then Holocron asked the commando dev and he too said yups..we are working, then a week leter they said ooops...why? our brethren form the riflemen class stepped in and said we were broken..they would not take OUR word on it alone.
It was the combined communities of the riflement and the commandos that got the commandos fixed finally...
2X damage is part of the commando no matter what Holocron says...it is only during melee attacks we take this penalty...and easy way around it is to swap weapons if you are being attacked by a mob or melee person...flameslingle or flamecone fast..then switch to launcher pistol.....really does work
I guess you miss the point...dabblers should not have the same bonuses as the master, or why even bother becomming master.
InnateEnigma wrote:
I grow tired of every profession whining about "dabblers". So what if someone only goes up one tree in certain branches of different professions. They should get all the bonuses that apply to that tree.
I am glad some people spread out their points it makes the game more interesting. I grow tired of Masters of different professions calling someone a wanna be or thinking that since they chose to master the profession they have more right to it and that everyone else should be forced to master it to get any benefits.
Whatever why do you thinkthe top tree of each tree grants a title?
Spreading your skill points adds dynamics and different strategies that make this game more interesting IMO.
I am a master smuggler I suppose to please the whiners I could master TKA as well heh but I think I will continue to dabble in Medic and oh yeah I am coming to do the dabble dance up one tree of commando now as well.
Happy Hunting
Wolve44 wrote:
I guess you miss the point...dabblers should not have the same bonuses as the master, or why even bother becomming master.
Perhaps I did. The point of becoming master is to have all of the skill trees of that profession at your disposal. True you can do that without spending the 1 point to get the master title. I think all master titles need some improvement well most anyway heh. But I think that the mods should be some better specials or new abilities, or even abetter weapon cert. My post was mainly based on the title of yours. Well mainly it was a rant and if I wasnt so lazy I would have typed in a seperate post.
Happy Hunting
Not all up and coming commandos plan on goin to flame iv.... /shake head no my friend, im goin commanod because of the following reasons..
Reason one.. I am currently a pistoleer.. and im gettin real sick of luggin around my little milk jug (aka Dx2 pistol) and i LOVE the fact commandos get a bunch of weapons at there disposal, and i plan on using all of them, including grenades... and to be honest, ill prolly try to master har b4 ft because no one else really has master har 
Reason two.. I cant wait till more rebels have faction bases, i cant wait until the day i can go in there, and blow there turrents to kingdom come with a rocket launcer, i want to be the total bad ass on the battle field
Reason three... I wanna be able to dish out the damage... commando weapons are expesive and all but.. smugglers buy faction with money.. commandos turn there cash into damage
Reason four... Just because i CAN.. i DO plan on mastering...and it should take me a while, and im cool with that.. i want to be a commando, and im proud.. (just need carb and rifle 3 and 4) Thats what makes the game fun lol.. do what you want... its a GAME.. and the MAIN reason im goin commando is becasue it has variety, with all the diffrent weapons... now, the FT ppl... doesnt matter that they wanted the ft skill tree... cuz its gona bite em in the but later with all the penaltys and stuff.. plus, i do like being support, and i understand commando is a lot of support.. so not ALL up and coming commandos are jumpin on the band wagon!
The problem I have with flamethrower being the way it is, is the range of the special. If they extend the range, then fine. Why are we the only class that can't use a special without fear of getting mauled?
You say we are not supposed to be a solo class. According to SoE no one should be. YET lots of people are.(CH anyone?)I play on Corbantis due to friends I have from other games and now. They live on the West Coast, I do not. So you are telling me I have to group with people all the time to be able to do ANYTHING? That's ridiculous.
Master Pistoleer owning a Master Commando? That's the biggest piece of crap I have ever heard. After the points invested in this class I have often stated BH's should kick my ass. And they do regularily.
Complaing about dabblers? Then why not petition to have flamesingle2 moved to the Master Box. Hell, I'll sign. My friends can attest as to how much I HATE dabblers.
I came into this game a month late. I bought the strategy manual when I bought the game. I wanted to be one of two classes from the beginning, a Combat Medic or a Commando. Since I am too darn lazy to craft that much(And frankly don't want the CTS that comes along with it..lol), I went Commando. I fought with the LP. I ran in circles for hours having leviasqualls hunt me down. I think it's ridiculous what they have done to the class.
Instead of being negative and trying to "Shoo!" the dabblers. Be positive. Support the class and support the riflemen getting the 2.5X melee damage penatly removed as well.
I mean, for crying out loud, if I shoot you with a gun and you're running at me with a sword??? I win. Hands down. If I wanted swords and sorcery I would have stuck with UO.
If they get their 2H swords of vanq I want my **edit** flamestrike back.
Instead of being negative and trying to "Shoo!" the dabblers. Be positive. Support the class and support the riflemen getting the 2.5X melee damage penatly removed as well.
My fellow Commandos have my full support (even the dabblers...its hard to blame them for not mastering- most of our stuff is broke)..but the Riflemen are on their own. We tried to help and got backstabbed for our efforts.
Ahh... the good old days when we sucked, there was no nerf calls, commandos were rare, and masters even more rare.
Hate to see everything we've fought for over the past months be torn apart by a single patch.
I would love to be more helpful on this matter, however my computer has been down for over a week and a half so I've not experienced the 2.0/2.5x melee dmg when weilding a flame thrower. Though I did once when I was 4-0-0-0 rifleman and remember how much I hated it ( lack of skill points caused me to drop it, not the melee damage, sniper shot was great ).
I feel that the 2.5x damage modifier is a bit too much. Why should we or the rifleman have to suffer any kind of penalty to damage. Rifleman fire are a much to slow rate and Commando's have a timer on our specials and are only useable withing 16m.
Aren't we already gimped enough. Now in PvE I am killed in one shot by almost anything. I made it to master Commando and will stick with it for a while, but if I do not see any kind of change or bonus to our damage modifier I will be leaving.
Wolve is a Moron, Period!!! he comes in with his high and mighty Speach and yet hes nothing but a bottom Feeder..I know Wolve from Corbantis I watched him fight..and let me tell you this, He Uses EXPLOITS!
He Attacks rebels While someone Else already incaped them, he stands there and uses his flame thrower to Keep knocking them down and wounding them Over and over and over, he kept one poor rebel incaped for over half an hour his wounds were Seriously bad, the poor rebel was getting VERY VERY angry taking screen shots, reporting him Etc..Wolve just laughed at him and kept on Greifing him and incaping him Over and over and over.. I am a Imp and even i thought that was Disgusting to do to another person..and YES i reported Wolve..its NOT Dabblers who give commando's a bad name, its Scum like you Wolve that use exploits and greif like you did in Theed to that Poor rebel next to the Cloning Center..
Who in there Right mind would stand there for 30 mins or more Keeping another person (that he DIDNT initially Kill *incap*) and curse at them and keep them incaped Knowing how much that anoyes someone...that is HARASSMENT Wolve..
the day in Question Wolve saw this rebel on the Floor incaped and as another imp was just about to DB the incaped rebel wolve Said Nooo Dont kill him dont kill him..im gonna make this Rebel Pay for all the times Kok killed me...Now tell me people IS it Right that Wolve Took out his anger on an innosent rebel that he had never even seen before just because someone Else did something bad to him??? Does 2 Wrongs now make a right? Hmm looks like Wolve thought so..
SO Wolve untill you get a back bone, Or learn to kill things on your own like everyone else and Stop Leaching other peoples kills. ( No wonder he dont care about the 2.5 times Melee Mod, he cant even kill his own stuff anyaway) please Shut up and Grow a brain!!
its NOT Dabblers that give commano's a bad name...its Commando's like you, doing Stupid things like you did that day in theed that give Commando's a bad name..
People have a Right to Dabble..Where would a master Crafter be if they couldnt DABBLE in a combat Profession??? they would DIE everytime they got attacked checking there harvesters and factories..
I agree that people that Only went to Flame 4 shouldnt get the Benefits that a master Commando gets. and they DONT. they Dont get the + knockdown Mod, they dont get the +5 (WOW) ranged Defence mod and they dont get the +5 Melee Defence Mod, they aslo dont get all the other Mobs and Skills that go with training in those Skills..but they DO get the Skills that they Deserve..They Worked there asses Off to get to flame 4 in the first place they Deserve the mods and Skills that go with THAT tree and THOSE Skills and weapon..
Lastly No other Ranged class HAD to have 29 Skill points of unarmed (MELEE) training in order to qualify for novice. If commandos are going to get a Melee dammage Penalty then the Melee Training requirement should be removed and the skill points given back..THEN the 2.5 times dammage would be a little more understandable and Probably a little more accepted also..
Thank you for Reading.
PS: i know i am Probably going to get Flamed for what i said about Wolve, BUT you wernt there, you didnt See what Wolve did, and in my Book What Wolve did was Unacceptable, inexcusable and down right WRONG!
The actions of a few people like Wolve that have Doomed an Entire class...
You just want flamesingle2 ( Which takes 6 hrs to get if you arent worthless ) to do horrendous damage, and without any penalty for you ? Pathetic fools....
2.5x is here to stay. If you dont like it, I guess you have to move on to the next flavor of the month.
I can't even express how glad I am that the devs disagree with you.
Seylesh wrote:
I mean, for crying out loud, if I shoot you with a gun and you're running at me with a sword??? I win. Hands down. If I wanted swords and sorcery I would have stuck with UO.
If they get their 2H swords of vanq I want my **edit** flamestrike back.