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Thread: Krayt Killing tactics. Please offer some advice.
Yoyort wrote:i solo with no tkm
Good point, depends how you want to do it, personally adding the TKM is great for killing little stuff, the flamer for big stuff.
Tell you what....
If there was a way to put your toon on ahazi, or mine on wanderhome with our respective equipment, I would bet every credit I have (and its quite a bit), and every item in my inventory that:
A) I will outdamage you, EVERY time, thus getting loot rights
B) Standing toe to toe with ANY NPC in the game, I last longer....
C) I will kill it quicker than you
Speedcapped swordsman (like me) with 1000-1200 damage acklay PH's like mine are will eat every professions lunch (except for MLS Jedi) in the damage/loot department. Also, I have used the SAME PH that I have had since I mastered Swordsman. 5 months ago.
As far as the construction worker on your board comment, you are making the mistake of assuming I dont have, or have never had a commando. Commando was the first profession I mastered (besides marksman, of course), and every toon I have has been, or currently IS a Commando. Dont assume things, because you know what that does...
Elders? 100 percent resist to heat/kinetic, 35 percent to blast - no chance there...Your burn wont hold a candle to me hitting for 2500-3500 EVERY second...Your TKA is worthless here. Using a 250 (at best, unless you have prenerf) max LP? Good luck. I'll see you next week by the time you take it down with that.
Giant Canyon Krayts? 75 percent across the board here...You have NO chance
Juvies? You might have a shot here, but...No...You wont.
GDK? 100 percent resist to heat...65 to kinetic and blast...Again, you have NO chance
Flamers have NO AP. PH's are AP2...I hit every second. You hit every 3-4 (the burn every 10 seconds). My PH is probably stronger than your damage sliced flamer.
Add in 4000 doctor: can cure the disease that GDK's like so much. The dizzy that Elders and Krayts seem to have a hard on for. 3 bar bleeds the Elders love to put on you? No sweat. Can cure them on the fly.
For someone that has played this game for nearly as long as I have, you dont know very much about it. Ebay?
Message Edited by RankorCity on 01-29-2005 12:51 AM
You sir, for "playing so long", really have no Idea how strong a flame dot is. It bypasses ALL Armor stats. It doesn't matter if an object is 100% resistant to heat or Vulnerable to Heat. All that dictates is the initial hit - NOT the dot.
When I KD a Night Sister elder, i can hit for 20+K damage - shown here The intial Hit Dictates the Flame Dot - at 20k Damage, the dot is ticking roughly 25% of that, or 5k and lasting for 45 seconds (ticking every 10). Further, our Flame Dots still stack on one another.
While hitting every second with your sword or rather "Hammer", your also hitting the Armor Rating and Resistance of the NPC. A flame thrower bypasses that completely. As far as your powerhammer being more powerful than my flame thrower....... you sir, are mistaken. My flame thrower is a 3.1 speed, 660 - 1220 30% grille master. You wont stand longer up against an NPC even with doctor.
Giant Canyon Krayts - they take me less than 11 minutes to kill solo. I have no chance there aye?!
3 Bleeds huh? Didn't know bleeds stacked anymore..... wait, they dont. You may want to look into that b/c bleeds were nerfed hard there bub.
Healing Disease against a GDK is nothing but a waiste of time - the special they use "Plauge Strike" will give you full wounds in less than 2 seconds at times - pointless to heal wounds, easier to meditate them off after the 4 spawn is dead. Once again, you obviously have never used a Flame Thrower on one - since you are under the impression that something is 100% to heat, a flame thrower is pointless. Ive killed more GDK's on my server than you and your guild has seen - i can promise you that.
While true we take a 2x damage increase while hold a flame thrower, the TKM & Pistol defense modifiers make up for that. I might take some heavy damage, but I am the only person i know on my server that can 1.) Solo a Night Sister Elder 2.) Any Krayt 3.) Gorax ............ Swordsman is a fad - it isn't as powerful as you think. A year ago when you could stack bleeds it was great - the Devs cut that off at the knees. It's good on some NPCs & Creatures, but Commando's Flame Thrower is Good on ALL NPCS & Creatures. Throw tkm in mix and your a walking badass.
Your intial post was to make it good you have to "Obtain" speed tapes - whats this gonna set people back, a Few + Million for tapes?! You can do more damage with a flame thrower and not have to worry about finding tapes. Thats all i have to say - if you dont believe me, make a Toon on Wanderhome and come watch me kill a GDK or anything else.
- Takai
Chabian wrote:
sage Edited by RankorCity on 01-29-2005 12:51 AM
You sir, for "playing so long", really have no Idea how strong a flame dot is. It bypasses ALL Armor stats. It doesn't matter if an object is 100% resistant to heat or Vulnerable to Heat. All that dictates is the initial hit - NOT the dot.
When I KD a Night Sister elder, i can hit for 20+K damage - shown here The intial Hit Dictates the Flame Dot - at 20k Damage, the dot is ticking roughly 25% of that, or 5k and lasting for 45 seconds (ticking every 10). Further, our Flame Dots still stack on one another.
While hitting every second with your sword or rather "Hammer", your also hitting the Armor Rating and Resistance of the NPC. A flame thrower bypasses that completely. As far as your powerhammer being more powerful than my flame thrower....... you sir, are mistaken. My flame thrower is a 3.1 speed, 660 - 1220 30% grille master. You wont stand longer up against an NPC even with doctor.
Giant Canyon Krayts - they take me less than 11 minutes to kill solo. I have no chance there aye?!
3 Bleeds huh? Didn't know bleeds stacked anymore..... wait, they dont. You may want to look into that b/c bleeds were nerfed hard there bub.
Healing Disease against a GDK is nothing but a waiste of time - the special they use "Plauge Strike" will give you full wounds in less than 2 seconds at times - pointless to heal wounds, easier to meditate them off after the 4 spawn is dead. Once again, you obviously have never used a Flame Thrower on one - since you are under the impression that something is 100% to heat, a flame thrower is pointless. Ive killed more GDK's on my server than you and your guild has seen - i can promise you that.
While true we take a 2x damage increase while hold a flame thrower, the TKM & Pistol defense modifiers make up for that. I might take some heavy damage, but I am the only person i know on my server that can 1.) Solo a Night Sister Elder 2.) Any Krayt 3.) Gorax ............ Swordsman is a fad - it isn't as powerful as you think. A year ago when you could stack bleeds it was great - the Devs cut that off at the knees. It's good on some NPCs & Creatures, but Commando's Flame Thrower is Good on ALL NPCS & Creatures. Throw tkm in mix and your a walking badass.
Your intial post was to make it good you have to "Obtain" speed tapes - whats this gonna set people back, a Few + Million for tapes?! You can do more damage with a flame thrower and not have to worry about finding tapes. Thats all i have to say - if you dont believe me, make a Toon on Wanderhome and come watch me kill a GDK or anything else.
- Takai
You COMPLETELY missed the point on bleeds....I have been hit with bleed to Health, Action, AND Mind by Elders and protectors...Not fun stuff. I never said ANYTHING about me stacking bleeds.
Make a toon on Ahazi...I'll give you 5 mil to build your toon up with (more than adequate). I'll get a WS buddy to giveyou a krayted flamer equal to yours on Wanderhome. You should be able to get 0040 Commando, MTKA, 0043 Pistol, and 0040 Medic in a couple days.
We'll see who:
Takes down a krayt faster
Takes down an Elder faster
Takes down a GDK faster
And the most important thing, who gets loot rights.
If Commando was so uber in PvE, everyone would be one. But they arent.For loot hooring, its either Master Rifleman, or Master Swordsman. I have been Master Commando/TKM, Master Commando/Master Pistol, Commando 0040/Pistol 0040/TKM...Just about every variation of.
Message Edited by RankorCity on 01-29-2005 09:40 AM
Message Edited by Ataho on 01-29-2005 02:24 PM
RankorCity wrote:
Using a 250 (at best, unless you have prenerf) max LP?
actually i know you can get a 300+ launcher with no powerup (i know because i own one)
i've also heard of exceptional gorax bones going into one and making a 600+ man damage
Ohetie 770 Max T21, Headshot 3 at speedcap.
Message Edited by RazerWolf on 01-29-2005 09:04 PM
- Takai
You COMPLETELY missed the point on bleeds....I have been hit with bleed to Health, Action, AND Mind by Elders and protectors...Not fun stuff. I never said ANYTHING about me stacking bleeds.
Make a toon on Ahazi...I'll give you 5 mil to build your toon up with (more than adequate). I'll get a WS buddy to give you a krayted flamer equal to yours on Wanderhome. You should be able to get 0040 Commando, MTKA, 0043 Pistol, and 0040 Medic in a couple days.
We'll see who:
Takes down a krayt faster
Takes down an Elder faster
Takes down a GDK faster
And the most important thing, who gets loot rights.
If Commando was so uber in PvE, everyone would be one. But they arent. For loot hooring, its either Master Rifleman, or Master Swordsman. I have been Master Commando/TKM, Master Commando/Master Pistol, Commando 0040/Pistol 0040/TKM...Just about every variation of.
Message Edited by RankorCity on 01-29-2005 09:40 AM
I did misread the bleeds - besides the point, Ive already told you how fast i can take down :
GDK : Less than 4minutes
Krayt: Less than a Power Boost in TKM (11minutes -)
Elder: Roughly 15-20minutes
Instead of you forking over 5mil for the character build, also which i have no time to do, just go out and timestamp screen shots of your kills. This should in essence, do the same thing............. But i can assure you one thing You will never kill something BIG faster than a Commando, NEVER
As far as loot rights go...... you may get the loot rights, but you wont kill something as fast - and if your soloing, it's all about speed.
- Takai
LOL, I was thinking the same thing.
skiix wrote:
Let me get this straight... If i make a statement thatI am better than someone and keep talking about how much better I am, while of course adding screenies and detailed statistics, I will get 5 million credits and a Sliced Krayt Flame Thrower ?
WHERE DO I SIGN UP!?!