Commando Archive

Thread: Here ya go Hard Evidence that we are not PvP gods

spooooks
Sat Feb 14, 2004 9:04 am
#209
in seconds? 4 people? I have yet to see this....ever!
AxelJacobs
Wed Feb 18, 2004 6:32 pm
#210

The question is not WHAT is the best prof? But rather. What is the best combo of Profs?


Really, I think that there are too many factors. Armor/buffs/macros/power of weapons/speed of weapons. All that stuff.


I am working on master commando and I have master Brawler and I am getting "dirty fighting" line of Smugler and pistoleer 0/1/0/0. That will take all my skills and I will have some of the best attacks in the game. Warcry2 as well as Intimidate 2 do not TEF in PvP, not sure if they are going to fix it in a patch. But you can delay your opponent in PvP and then Flame them, switch to a krayt launcher pistol and lowblow and then Blead with HealthShot2 and use Chestshot2 intil Incap. You can also solo Krayts with this combo. Feign death comes in great handy. What other profession can u solo krayts? I was master BH and I could not solo Krayts. I personally think that this is the best combo.




EVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVIL
EVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVIL
EVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVIL' Zoidburg
EVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVIL -Elder Jedi-
EVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVIL aTempesta
EVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVIL <NooB>
EVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVIL I stole this sig
EVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVIL I'm sexy...
Lifylos
Wed Feb 18, 2004 10:52 pm
#211




spooooks wrote:
in seconds? 4 people? I have yet to see this....ever!





Its called four master swordsman with blast hammer. It takes about 30-45 seconds for a master Swordsman to solo an At-St, I imagine having 3x the damage output would speed things up a bit.



Seishenoru Verin...gone on Febuary 22, Cyas guys...

Dont mind me, just trolling on my last day...
LokkyWarlord
Thu Feb 19, 2004 7:57 am
#212
AND ????????


You ppl are happy now ??

WE GOT NERFED !!!!!!

no we dont just got nerfed we SUCK now our fire does no damage anymore im a 1000 medic and heal fire up hahahaha

yea lets do so on nerf kd dizzynerf eye shotnerf stopshotnerf the whole combat medic proffnerf THE FUCCKING GAME until we all quiet it !


sorry ppl really i WAS commando and i sucked in pvp before nerf cause every proff has something to counter attack but now we are just useless AT STs are as good as immun against fire and bigger mobs just laugh about our flamesingle


If we do it the way we do it now we will destroy this game !
AxelJacobs
Thu Feb 19, 2004 10:23 am
#213
I have to disargree.. Even with the NERF, we still do a lot of damage. They made our DOT weaker but they made the Initial shot damage more. I've noticed that I have been doing a lot more damage on the initial Flame Single 2 attack. Even so, it still kicks ass when U can Flame a Krayt, switch to a Launcher and do Health Shot2/Low blow/ Body Shot 2.. the feign death and let the DOT wear out to do it all again. Soloing Krayts is madness.



EVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVIL
EVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVIL
EVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVIL' Zoidburg
EVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVIL -Elder Jedi-
EVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVIL aTempesta
EVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVIL <NooB>
EVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVIL I stole this sig
EVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVILEVIL I'm sexy...
LokkyWarlord
Thu Feb 19, 2004 12:09 pm
#214

hahahahahahahahahaha


sorry axel what was last time you tryed a krayt lol my last one was 2 hours ago lol 500 damage DoT and cause of his 70% heat defense not even a ..... of damage please dont tell me commando is still good at pve i cant even solo rancors anymore (yea 100% heat i know still with bleed you can kill him too why not with fire anymore) !


btw good thing you do what you said for 15 min get him 40% down than there comes a group and ks you rofl please dont i allready saw so much bs happen with our proffesion !


and ..... Axel


1. we talk about commandos not grenadeers with TK Smugglerand what ever elselol
2. we really like our flamer but we want some other weapons too (that are not useless) heavy weapons not heavy weapon
3. we still do a lot of DoT did you pvp since patch ?? i can heal fire with 1000 medic now lol never got a burn over 500 and i have a krayt flamer


Reydon
Sat Feb 21, 2004 6:33 am
#215

Then you are seeing some drugged and buffed to hell people. I have never seen anyone able to kill an AT-ST. And the Imp who said about Fencer and such killing an AT-ST. They could probably kill it in that 30-60 seconds, the prob is they wont live that long.



But I dont care to much anymore, because they are just more flame resistant, not invincible to it.






Cyrus' Ludarin
Proud Mercenary Commando of 731 Days of 12/21/05
"SoE has murdered my hopes for a good game and a fun time by destroying what defines a commando. How about you?."
Lifylos
Sat Feb 21, 2004 9:22 am
#216




Reydon wrote:

Then you are seeing some drugged and buffed to hell people. I have never seen anyone able to kill an AT-ST. And the Imp who said about Fencer and such killing an AT-ST. They could probably kill it in that 30-60 seconds, the prob is they wont live that long.



But I dont care to much anymore, because they are just more flame resistant, not invincible to it.








Actually It was swordsman not fencer, and if you get Full buffs, and a suit of 85% energy resist armor, and a PSG with any energy resists at all, At-St=pea shooter. The massive thouadn damage a shot they do, Ive seen reduced to zero with good armor and a PSG. And Swordsmans actually have block that works quite well dont they? Not to mention the terrible firing speed on the At-St....



And yes Im an imp on one server, but a rebel on another...and I have taken down many many At-St's in my time....




Seishenoru Verin...gone on Febuary 22, Cyas guys...

Dont mind me, just trolling on my last day...
italyg88
Tue Feb 24, 2004 5:09 pm
#217
The point is we weren't made to be pvp gods. Read our skill description, "Adept at taking out armored vehicles, and heavy targets" If u want to kill every 2 legged idiot u see go BH\Pistoleer or TK. I personally enjoy being able to kill AT-ST's and Krayt Dragons, but maybe its just me. Now if ur all done whining why don't u go use commando for what it was designed, GO KILL SOMETHING BIG!
Denen
Thu Feb 26, 2004 5:31 pm
#218
I think the whining is valid here though... I think the badassness of a character should be in relation to a couple of things

1. How hard it is to get that profession.(how many trees do I have to do to get this) 2. What other things can that profession do? (how does it make money, what other usefulthings can it do besides kill?)


Commando was supposed to be focused on War, combat. That is really all that profession does, dish out dammage. Thats it. That is why it WAS badass.


Right now, in my opinion, the twotoughest professions in pvp are CM and Rifleman. I have been many things including Master Commando and Master TK (at the same time) (I have mastered 8 professions or so, including CM- I know many of you have done more). But, the reason I think CM and Rifleman are the hardest to beat in pvp is for two reasons: 1. They both are good at attacking mind. CM has mind poison and mind disease that if you are master can damage atabout 700a tick. That means you have about 30 seconds to kill this guy and even if you do, likely you will be incap anyway. Rifleman has mindshot. The reason why this is so critical is because both professions bypass armor. It doesnt matter what armor you are wearing you are going to go down just as fast with these two (assuming the rifleman is using a T21 armor piercing). In addition, Rifleman is almost impossible to hit. I was a Master Commando and Master TK with a Krayt Flame thrower, great armor (80% kenetic, 86% everything else) and I could not even hit a Rifleman with my flame thrower (and I was +110 accuracy with my flame thrower). In addition mind damage is the toughest damage because you cant heal it, at least not while fighting.


How difficult are these professions to get? and what else can they do?


I will argue that although I think it is easier to be CM (I was able to grind CM in 2 days) than Commando, the same amount of trees and skill points are taken up. However, I will say that CM can do much more than kill (they are great at helping parties heal, they can also place hospitals, and make medical supplies/poisons/diseasesto make money). So I think the commando profession is getting the shaft there.


Rifleman is VERY easy to get incontrastto commando and requires much less skill points (so you can go off and do other things). So this profession is very strong in my opinion (for the amount of effort it takes to become one). Granted, all Riflemen can do is kill, but that is the same for all the marksmen tree, as well as the brawler tree, and everyone of those suffers armor, except rifleman. Also, Rifleman gets more defenses than the rest. Seems unfair.


Now, if you have taken trouble to read all of this understand that I thought about this from a logical point of view, trying to leave out my passion for the commando profession (I do like it and it is fun). Commandos are still good at many things (like killing NPCs), but I do believe Commandos should be one of the toughest PVP. It is all they do and it is one of the more difficult professions to get (BH being the hardest to get in my opinion. But BH can do much more than kill too and BH are very good at PVP - and rightly so).
dreambreaker
Wed Mar 03, 2004 11:10 am
#219
Yes it is true that we are now PvP gods. I am i commando myself and i get killed most of the time in duels. We are very good on PvE but thats about it. We have to be close to a person to use a special and its like 8 sec. between shots.



Doctor/Swordsman
Tepic_Sand
Thu Mar 04, 2004 5:47 am
#220



italyg88 wrote:


The point is we weren't made to be pvp gods. Read our skill description, "Adept at taking out armored vehicles, and heavy targets" If u want to kill every 2 legged idiot u see go BH\Pistoleer or TK. I personally enjoy being able to kill AT-ST's and Krayt Dragons, but maybe its just me. Now if ur all done whining why don't u go use commando for what it was designed, GO KILL SOMETHING BIG!




congratulations my man italyg88 is completely correct, the commando was never designed to be good in pvp, thats why all of the descriptions mention taking out big, heavy targets. Id love to beat the hell out of people in pvp, just as much as everyone else, but as long as im a commando i know it not going to happen. Go BH or rifleman if you want to be good at that. People can whine all they want but the situation wont change, instead we need to focus our arguments on hitting armoured targets. Getting our consumable weapons improved for taking out at-st's and turrets, specials for the Lag...i mean Launcher Pistol, a HAR that actually damages armour like the description says.....these are all things we can hope to see changed.


Hoping to be a commando pvp god is like hoping for snow in jamaica





@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ COLONEL TEPIC
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ OE
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ MASTER WEAPONSMITH
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ SMUGGLER'S ALLIANCE PILOT
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ REBEL SOLDIER
camode
Thu Mar 04, 2004 5:36 pm
#221
so said...master commando can pretty much kill anyone with 2 shots, even if they are buffed.

oh...what did the subject say again?



Colonel Kiazer Arragon
"Arragon Steel"
----------------------------------------
FINEATOPIA
Located on Dantoone (Imp Outpost)
Page 17 of 19
Previous Next