Commando Archive
Thread: Here ya go Hard Evidence that we are not PvP gods
skindancer
Thu Jan 29, 2004 11:21 pm
#196
SOE will never fix any of this. their programers are so freaking lame. their ideas suck.
i love being a commando cuz i can take just about anything. true we dont dominate in pvp, but we dont suck as bad as you make it out to be.
im a master commando wookie (i get ZERO armor)
i have dueled just about every profession there is that is to include pc jedis and hybrids (bounty hunter/pistoleer) buffed and unbuffed and done many raids with pcs defending it.
if you spam your flame shots at the beging of a duel and hit, they are dead.
if they are buffed, stack flames and RUN AROUND!
if you cant find or just arnt buffed at the time, start carrying food, drinks and drugs DUH!
riflemen(STAY CLOSE TO THEM!)
pistoleer(pray)
carbineer(they suck anyway)
tkm(hope hes not buffed and flameshot2, stick a fork in him cuz hes done)
so on and so on.
what the devs need to do is REVAMP COMMANDO SO WE GOT WEAPONS OTHER THAN THE FLAMETHROWER!
i love being a commando cuz i can take just about anything. true we dont dominate in pvp, but we dont suck as bad as you make it out to be.
im a master commando wookie (i get ZERO armor)
i have dueled just about every profession there is that is to include pc jedis and hybrids (bounty hunter/pistoleer) buffed and unbuffed and done many raids with pcs defending it.
if you spam your flame shots at the beging of a duel and hit, they are dead.
if they are buffed, stack flames and RUN AROUND!
if you cant find or just arnt buffed at the time, start carrying food, drinks and drugs DUH!
riflemen(STAY CLOSE TO THEM!)
pistoleer(pray)
carbineer(they suck anyway)
tkm(hope hes not buffed and flameshot2, stick a fork in him cuz hes done)
so on and so on.
what the devs need to do is REVAMP COMMANDO SO WE GOT WEAPONS OTHER THAN THE FLAMETHROWER!
Raptor2k1
Fri Jan 30, 2004 7:07 pm
#197
I suppose if you want to go through flamethrowers like consumable weapons you could do that. That begs the question though, why is a novice marksman attack more effective for damagethan one we get at master?
Reydon
Fri Jan 30, 2004 9:39 pm
#198
Ivoni. THANK YOU. Finally someone shows people that we are not as strong as we seem. Commando's are strictly PvE fighters. TKA rule in PvP, not commando's.
I just have to thank you for making such a great point and taking the time to get all that together. You deserve some reward for that.
Reydon
Fri Jan 30, 2004 10:02 pm
#199
One more thing... Nerfing commando is probably the stupidest thing I have ever heard of SoE doing. Its even worse then EQ's 12 hours or horror. 6 hour patch, afterwards, if you zoned, you crashed. 6 hours to fix that.
Commando should NOT be nerfed
1- It is the ONLY thing that can kill an AT-ST
2- If they make it so you cant light AT-St's on fire, Imps will be invincibile (read more down imps, I explain)
3- Commandos, even as master, miss a CRAP load at a slow speed.
Okay, for the Imps. Think through the eyes of a rebel for a second... which to about 3 imps I have met, would be too much to ask.
You are on a fun pvp raid after Commando's cant light AT-ST's on fire.
You get all fire on your AT-ST. Remember this is a raid of say... 30 people.
I am not sure the attack speed of an AT-ST, but I guess is is 2.0 like other things.
The AT-ST can kill the most armored rebel in 2 hits. That is 4 seconds a rebel
30 rebels at 4 seconds each. That is 120 seconds. 2 minutes for a single AT-ST to kill that raid.
Now look at it this way. If you cant light it on fire. You need to get enough damage to penatrate it's armor and resists in those 2 minutes to kill the AT-ST. And that is impossible.
AT-ST's are unkillable without Commando flame. Plus, rebels dont have those types of pets, so it makes everything unfair there. Commando fire is all we have, LEAVE IT ALONE!!!
And now they want to nerf Commando? Why? Because we like commando's? Probably. Through my experiences in these MMORPGs, including EQ, and DAoC, I have noticed that whatever is fair and fun, that people love, is nerfed. Not the bugs of the game (and this game certainly leaves no shortage of bugs), but the things we enjoy are "fixxed". They need to leave commando alone and fix all these bugs. Ill even list some
1- People dissapear from yer screen
2- Missions appear inside homes and are destroyed. Sure ya get reward, but if SoE hasnt noticed.. most people do missions mainly for xp or lots of faction.
3-When ya lag somewhat your battle will stop. You can still get messages and move yer mouse and such. But your battle comes to a complete halt. Then in one second when it fixes, all the battle in that time is made up. Now if you are low hp, this means certain death.
Shall I go on? SoE has gota fix these bugs before they nerf crap. People LIKE commando, we HATE bugs. That is why they nerf commando... because we like it.
Ciyrus, Ahazi Server
Commando by choice
Bounty Hunter - Investigator
Master Marksman
Master Scout
skindancer
Sun Feb 01, 2004 6:01 am
#200
one your right commandos should not get nerfed. its stupid how many bugs i can point out just standing in one place.
i dont think anyone here really gets the point of being a rebel. you guys are the underdogs. if you dont know what that means, it means, ITS NOT SPOSTA BE FAIR YOU FREAK. stop crying about it.
i guess you forgot who runs the galaxy. IMPS!!! we are the government, so we get the kool stuff. rebels should get nothing more than the sticks they find on the ground. go toss a rock at some one and be happy.
i dont think anyone here really gets the point of being a rebel. you guys are the underdogs. if you dont know what that means, it means, ITS NOT SPOSTA BE FAIR YOU FREAK. stop crying about it.
i guess you forgot who runs the galaxy. IMPS!!! we are the government, so we get the kool stuff. rebels should get nothing more than the sticks they find on the ground. go toss a rock at some one and be happy.
Reydon
Sun Feb 01, 2004 10:22 am
#201
Okay Moron, Heres how I see it
1- Just because we are underdog's doesnt mean we shouldn't be able to have an advantage
2- Burning AT-ST's is our ONLY defence to these giants that are cheap as **edit** to buy.
3- I understand we shouldnt have any big equiptment, we are small people with low funds and **edit**, but that by NO REASON means we should have NO defence to AT-STs. They are too strong and quick to kills for it to be killed. They either need to nerf AT-ST's down to 10k hp and 300 damage a hit, or they need to leave flaming AT-ST's alone.
MagicalHAt
Sun Feb 01, 2004 11:55 am
#202
i went on a raid to banir last night and i got so many kills it wasnt even funny.....
**edit** are you talking bout we suck in pvp we are one of the best classes for it imho bh suck upclose tka hehe just use burst run and let em burn...
TRICK TO USEING FLAME THROWER
GET CLOSE do strafing runs!!!!!
Reydon
Sun Feb 01, 2004 12:40 pm
#203
And to that moron up thereabout rebels should have it WAY to unfair, think of this. And I am writing this as I get my storm armor
1- IT IS A DAMNED GAME
2- Not everything with the game has to be the same with the movies and books. If it was like the movies and books, this games PvP would NOT be fun for anyone. It would be too easy for imps and too hard for rebels.
LokkyWarlord
Mon Feb 02, 2004 7:26 pm
#204
hmmmmmm
thats no rebs vs imps thread btw......
good work again ivoni really
thx for your work
DraenorBH
Thu Feb 05, 2004 9:14 pm
#205
i have a solution for the people who dont like commandos in PvP, dont get within 18 meters and your golden, unless you happen to get hit with a rocket launcher(keep moving)
-former master commando
Aulogue
Mon Feb 09, 2004 8:45 am
#206
I personally am going the Master Commando/Master Fencer route. I'm gonna pwn in PvP.
Lifylos
Fri Feb 13, 2004 5:34 am
#207
To all of you who are upset about the loss of commandos to counter the At-st, well its a concern,but you have other, faster,and better methods to dispose of them.
A solo TKM, with buffs, energy armor, and a set of Vk's. in about a minute and ahalf, he can kill an At-st. Generally less.
A solo sworsdman, same buffs,and same armor, can toast one of these in 45 seconds tops. So long as he has a power hammer.
a TKM and a Master Rifleman, can kill oen of those in about 30 seconds, TKM KD, plus mindhit, and Rifleman with his mind shots and such.
By losing the commando Flame you didnt lose taht much.
*sigh* Sad I am to see the nerf though.
DraenorBH
Fri Feb 13, 2004 7:13 pm
#208
Reydon you are completely wrong about your post regarding at st's being unkillable, i have seen a group of maybe 4 non commandos kill an at st in seconds