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Thread: Here ya go Hard Evidence that we are not PvP gods

maddogs
Sun Nov 09, 2003 4:06 am
#118

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I've also dueled him three timeswith just my LP and he beat metwice and then I beat him once, barely. Keep in mind that I don't have any pistoleer skills.


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tihs is what made me say that this is bull


like i sed he suckes or you lie (and foryou to use warcry he has to be within 23m i belive wich agen indacates ithere hes a verey bad pvp or .... you lie{i rather say hesa haribel pvper }becous a good pvp never get that clouse to a commandounles kded)


ya warcry is sweet


so is panick shot it gose 64 m hehethen kd then swich to carben and dizzy then burn





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Daniel' Judson-Leonheart

Altairrr
Sun Nov 09, 2003 10:51 am
#119

My current LP has 524 damage and 1.0 speed. The only reason I beat him, and I did say barely, was because he was running out of mind (I managed to shoot that pool a few times) and he couldn't heal his action to shoot more specials. My HAM was LOW at this point. He even said he would have won if that didn't happen and I don't doubt that. He also wasn't spamming knockdown, as it was a "friendly" duel.



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Altair [NoMaD]
M.Pistoleer, 0040 Smuggler, 0020 BH, 1000 Medic

maddogs
Sun Nov 09, 2003 12:35 pm
#120

o ok he wasint using thos 64m one hit kills lol i dint cech the part were u sed friendly


nice LP by the way




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Daniel' Judson-Leonheart

KeonMeowMeow
Sun Nov 09, 2003 2:58 pm
#121

Ok I didn't bother reading all this but I had to vent. I ran across a pistoleer, doctor, Creature handler. I hit with 4 flame cones and he would just heal himself while his gurreck reams me. And he spams stopping shot. He then goes to spam about how I suck and he is 1337. I told him the outcome would be diffrent without his poke mon help.

And his responce was, "Well you're a commando"........

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWRUHWSVJKASGVFJHAVSFJHAVF.

Wow just wow. PvP gods? Not always.



"I'm cured, my brothers."
maddogs
Sun Nov 09, 2003 6:03 pm
#122

dued lets put it like this no one likes loosing in pvp and when they kill there happy but when there killed they cry nerf or explot or your over powerd u one hit pony


so thos typ off pplyou thro on the ignor list then creem tham as many time as you can lol




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Daniel' Judson-Leonheart

MissionCommand
Thu Nov 13, 2003 7:21 am
#123

Well...
First i have skipped 3 pages of this threat i m not a commando yet 30k carabiner and 85k rifle to go.
I dont know that much of the game mechanics as some of u guys as it seems.
Tiered to hear that ur overpowered? Look bout two posts up a commando whining 'CHs are so overpowered this is poke wars'
/yawn
I have a CH on another server and woops he is a doc too so a real 'unfair' combination like ppl dont stop telling me and writing in the forums. His last meeting with a commando was like this:
Standing overt infront of the recruter and training his new troopers. Yes i m stupid i dont take care of my radar and i m not buffed. An explosion 3 dead troopers, 2 poisened and going incap pets and poisened myself. In less than 1 sec coz of my stupidity. The commando ran aeay and tracked my down later to kill me (guess he was a Ranger too but not sure) while i was healing the wounds i got from his 1st attack.
Uhh well never seen any other proffesion killed my group (yes u fight a group when attacking a factioned CH) that fast.
so the BH/pistoleer do 3 or whatever k damage in whatever seconds to a single unarmed /armored target a commando can hit multiple targets doing a lot of dmg which is armorpiercing if the commando is clever (yes a BH can do that too but only with electro dmg)

What is the point of this threat?

I m a MASTER COMMANDO and somebody can do something i cant i aint uber anymore plz nerf somebody to make me a PvP god again? Come on yes pistols are fast and can do more dps as a commando can. So lvl up pistoleer and fight an ATST than come back and whine again.

However the game is unbalanced in many ways and nobody like to loose but as long as there is no cheating plz stop explaining why u lost a PvP 'i had no chance u r a commando is as nerfing as put ur pets away we dont play poke wars or if u would not have used KD or Last Ditch i had killed u. Nobody wants to hear that and i can tell u that commandos are big whiners as i can say as a CH.

uff my english is very poor sry and i have no structure in this post sry for that too.
maddogs
Thu Nov 13, 2003 8:43 am
#124

hum i will not blasted you to kingdom come but i would like to say a few things that you sed are rong


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missioncommand sed


An explosion 3 dead troopers, 2 poisened and going incap pets and poisened myself. In less than 1 sec coz of my stupidity. The commando ran aeay and tracked my down later to kill me (guess he was a Ranger too but not sure) while i was healing the wounds i got from his 1st attack.
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3 dead troopers um sorry there ant nothing that we got that could kill1 troopers in one shot much less 3 in one shot ( i can kd flame singel 2 a stoormtrooper and kill if im extreeemly lucky!!! but thats a 2 hit kill)


poisened um sorry commandos can not poisen only commbat medics!! can



The commando ran aeay and tracked my down later to kill me (guess he was a Ranger too but not sure) while i was healing the wounds i got from his 1st attack.


man from the sounds of it you got creemd by 3-4 ppl and you dint even know it lol one a master commbat medic one a bh and a 2 or 3 commandos


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missioncommand sed


so the BH/pistoleer do 3 or whatever k damage in whatever seconds to a single unarmed /armored target a commando can hit multiple targets doing a lot of dmg which is armorpiercing if the commando is clever (yes a BH can do that too but only with electro dmg).


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3 or whatever k i say usly around 1.5k every sec to the mind (to a unarmord person)


commando can hit multiple targets doing a lot of dmg which is armorpiercing if the commando is clever um not really ya we have a pbc that has 6m radis (thats energy dam some thing evry thing gurds agenst almost)


and a RL that cost a tone to make for only 30 shots and both thees weps have haribel ac maby 2/5 hit and both of thees weps cost mony to use proply more mony then you go threw in a week fro evry shot we pay derly


all we have left is the flamer wich has no armor percing and takes 8.5 sec(during this time we cant heal cant speek cant do any thing but run around like a chicken with his hed cut off) to shoot agen and we have to be within 16m to shoot and it haes haribel ac maby 4/10 hit (if we miss were almost instently ded!!!)



(yes a BH can do that too but only with electro dmg) not to bust on bhs but a bh can pumb out 5-8k dam evry 2 secs with ap1 and elc dam is a thing thats hardly ever gurded agenst!!!.


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missioncommand sed


Come on yes pistols are fast and can do more dps as a commando can. So lvl up pistoleer and fight an ATST than come back and whine again.


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lol man you know nothing a pistoler with a LP( i use lasdich with theLP and i do more dam then aRL) can do 50x more dam to a atsts then a commando with a RL


and it cost him nothing why it cost the commando any were rom 1-3k evry time he shoots


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missioncommand sed


commandos are big whiners as i can say as a CH.


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man you now are starting to urk me with your lack of knowleg commandos are not whiners


we simply sed that were not pvp gods like evry one keeps saying


and next time read the pages befor you post if you dont have time to then you dont have the right to




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Daniel' Judson-Leonheart

Jasynn
Fri Nov 14, 2003 5:32 pm
#125

Why is CH being 'balanced' so hard? There are other professions much more outa whack. Thunderheart said that a CH with pets shouldn't be stronger than two regular players. Then elplain to me why at this very monet there is a rebel rain on Dantooine Imperial outpost on Bria that left 14 dead imperials a buch of burnt AT's and dead pets. Now this was no big raid...just a couple of rebels with FLAMETHROWERS! How two guys with flamethrowers can take out so many other playes AND EVEN AT's is totally beyond any logic I can summon.
maddogs
Fri Nov 14, 2003 7:02 pm
#126

omg jasynn you stuige read post you doof dont go spaming you idaels just becous a commando kick you butt becous you dont know any thing about pvp



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Daniel' Judson-Leonheart

InquisitorPayne
Wed Nov 19, 2003 2:29 pm
#127

SWG_bobo:



well, in the same amount of time i need to incap-slay him with my Flamer i get killed bout 12 times.


The commando IS the single most underpowered PvP Profession of all!.




  • As a Swordsman i was able to take out an AT-ST in 12 seconds. As a Commando i need at least 30.

  • In direct PvP a Carbineer dabbling into BH or a Pistoleer dabbling into BH outdamage me at least by factor 4. (not counting Dizzy KNockdowns and other nasty stuff.

  • A smugglwer using panic shot and last ditch can kill me without ever giving me the chance to do anything but running.

  • A rifleman surpasses my damage by factor 3 to 4 (depending on weapon)

How van you DARE calling Commandos PvP gods? You statement clearly shows your lack of knowledge about PvP and PvE. You have no clue about the damage dealing abilities of the other professions.



If you have no clue about what you are talking, you should not participate in any discussion realting to the given topic.



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Spec-Ops
Wed Nov 19, 2003 3:22 pm
#128

Thanks for proving that Ivoni... i got to hurry up on that shrine in the woods....



DoltanReibisch
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Billiz
Thu Nov 20, 2003 9:45 am
#129

SWG_bobo you dont know what you are talking about.... yeah sure commando is realy good vs noobs with no clue about pvp.. but in high end pvp a master commando gets his ass kicked by alot of classes..




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ZabrackDimo
Sat Nov 22, 2003 5:14 am
#130

here's a pretty pathetic situation:


PvP fight going on in town, 2 overt imps and 1 covert siting on the recruiter (pretty lame there so he can jump whoever goes overt to fight back, not relavent anyway)


One is master teras, master fencer so ok, I get close to flame single 2 him, 5m away, I miss. Like that's really gonna happen with a flamethrower, but hey, gotta give them some chance right? He doesn't even move, knockdown, dizzy, dead in under 4 seconds. Now I have really good armor, but apparently that means nothing. First round goes to unarmed.


Round 2: Flame single 2 from 10m. Missed again. Knockdown, dizzy, dead under 4 seconds. Second round goes to unarmed.


Round 3: Ok, I'm getting annoyed here, rocket from 65m. Hits, someone else knocks me down with ranged attack, first person (not incapped, how I don't know since this rocketmax is well over 3k and pixie can only raise your stats just so much) runs up and hits me with knockdown just as I stand up. Anyone else noticing a pattern here?


Round 4: flame single 2 from 10 m. Missed. Knockdown while the person is still 10m away. Lag perhaps? 66 ping so not likely. Anyway, dizzy, BUT, i manage to stand up only to be knocked down again. Once again, dead in under 4 seconds.


Round 5: Rocket from 50m, miss. Run. Hmm, I have been knocked down. From 50mm to under 5m in the time it takes me to run 4m. Oh wait,when I select fire heavy weapon there's a delay between the time I go aggressive to my target and the time the weapon actually fires. Don't know why but can't move until weapon fires, would guess I should be able to but suffer to hit penalty. So naturally, the target sees me go red, is not being shot at yet, and runs up to me so my max range modifier is now reduced to my min range penalty before the rocket even fires. Point blank so naturally, the rocket misses. Knockdown, dizzy, dead.



Round 6: I leave town, the imp starts the usually imps rule, rebs are cowards line. I point out that since I am missing on 80% of my attacks and he has not missed once, why would I waste more time with a pointless endeavor. He starts in on how clearly I am a n00b cuz tka/master fencer is unbeatable and I don't hang out and die another 10 times or so. Fine, let's hear him out. blah blah blah 7 knockdown attack options to my 0. Melee defense up the wazoo to my way limited and obviously useless melee defense. Ranged attack defense that would make a god envious so "theres no way I can hit him", etc. etc. My attack speed is so slow I get one shot off and if he's not incappped I'm dead. Now, the flamethrower I have is sliced 3.2 speed. The rocket launcher has 5-6s timer on it. So,unless Iincap the target in 1 shot (which is what most people think happens even though it clearly did not happen even once here), I still have a multi-second delay before I can shoot again.TKA/fencer, has 7 knockdown attacks to choose from andattacks with special about about 1 time a second. One misses and another one from different skill follows so I get knocked down without ever getting that second shot off. So tell me, which one of us is overpowered in PvP? I would say maybe commando is IF I hit every time I shoot, and IF I can shoot every second.


OK, I go out hunting with a mid level tka all the time, sure, I live more times than she does when things go bad cuz I am farther away from the targets, BUT, her unarmed hit 2 does just as much damage to a target that my flame single 2 does and she gets in about 4 hits for each shot I get in.

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