Combat Medic Archive
Thread: Spider Venom will either be really good for you guys or end up being really bad.
would you sell that +25 crafting suit? never new you could by CM clothing that would add experimentation!! Wow!!!
jkray8472 wrote:
Bamboozle wrote:
Ehm... There is a max of +25 bonus you can get from any amount of skill tapes in any skill. Don't waste your tapes trying to get +67, it won't work.
jkray8472 wrote:
2 things: 1) They already did nerf Krayt weapons.
2) Griggs, we'll have to get our hands on a few of these and play...see about the max effectiveness, what happens if you max the range out with rancor bile etc.
BTW, I don't know if anyone cares, but I have +67 CM effectiveness tapes and +24 CM use tapes, and I have prepared quantitative tests that will prove conclusive whether:
A) CM use tapes work
B) CM effect tapes work
C) If there really is a +25 cap (i.e. 125 eff at master)
I will post the results, along with my methods onto this forum for the rest of the CMs to peruse.
Kiarda Kismet
Gorath
There is still much debate on the topic. I could easily put together a +25 suit, and test it. Then put another +1 tape in another article of clothing, and test it. Since CM poisons and diseases are easily quantifiable with a willing partner, it should allow me to put this debate to rest.
Pistol speed etc are not quantifiable. You just assume that you get a big bonus.
Since the only dev answer we've gotten was still ambiguous on the surface, the scientist in me is going to prove the answer.
Kiarda Kismet
Gorath
daymeeuhn wrote:
Its not the Acklay that drops them, its the Fire-Breathing Spider.
There is only ONE of them in the entire cave, and he respawns in less than 5 minutes.
On the TC they had all the spawns sped up to test them, when in ANY dungeon have you seen a mob spawn in under 5 minutes? It's not going to be like that when it goes live.
TsunamiKata wrote:
RhenGordon wrote:
TormOrvax wrote:
I'm a leader of the creator of this thread's PA. He is telling the truth, and I don't want to see CM nerfed, but this stuff is simply put, amazing. It is really off the charts. I don't know why someone would want to argue with his pictures. I am a CM in the game myself and this stuff isn't going to be THAT hard to come by. It is most definitely not like Krayt tissue trust me.
I woudl argue with his pictures because anyone with a 9th grade education and a working knowledge of photoshop can create almost any picture they want to display. Anybody remember all the Jedi images that were coming out before there were any jedi slots open?
Daymeeuhn has a history of coming to this board and starting inflammatory posts. That is why I call into question his credibility. If he turns out to be correct on this one, then I will apologize to him about it.
Would it make you feel better that I can confirm the possibility? I have acquired several spider venoms through my network of friends and suppliers that have powers exceeding even the exception Advanced Infection Amplifier that I purchased a while ago.
At 320 power, I can make an Area Mind Poison C to tick totickclose to1000 and Area Mind Disease to tick around 700. Quite frightening isn't it?
When I see it live on the server without an exploit I will believe that this available. As it is right now, I have a feeling that this will be toned down quite a bit.
When it is live and in full production, then I will give Daymeeuhn the proper apology that he deserves. I am already changing my mind about him, he seems to b trying to cool his trollish behavior. I did not get to see the deleted posts though, so one wonders.
vortexala wrote:
Xytroncore wrote:
daymeeuhn wrote:
Its not the Acklay that drops them, its the Fire-Breathing Spider.
There is only ONE of them in the entire cave, and he respawns in less than 5 minutes.
On the TC they had all the spawns sped up to test them, when in ANY dungeon have you seen a mob spawn in under 5 minutes? It's not going to be like that when it goes live.
Exactly. Things on TC aren't always going to hit Live that way.
I somewhat Disagree.
The "quick spawning" was a point one of them made out, as if it was meant to be there to make things "harder."
But we'll see. Because the bossmob being on a 20 minute timer does seem a bit sketchy.
TsunamiKata wrote:
jkray8472 wrote:
A spider in the new Geonesian Labs theme park that hasn't been added to Live.
Well, apparently it IS on live, but non-exploiters do not have access to it yet.Well, that never stopped anyone going there, does it?
By the second comment, I mean it is on the servers, and most people cannot access it. But there is apparently an exploit that will allow knowledge characters to enter the cave whenever they want.
So it does stop some people. But not the exploiters.
Message Edited by jkray8472 on 02-23-2004 12:08 PM
If this drop rate is what is being led on, then that is a bad thing. For a class to be judged on loot enhancements is not right, and that is what will happen if these frequent the live servers. No other combat class will have such great enhancements so readily available over what can be crafted.
As I see it, such easy to find enhancements are bad for CM and are bad for the game.
-Tae
Message Edited by TaeRocko on 02-23-2004 01:41 PM
Makes your job a lot more difficult doesn't it? I feel sorry for you, honestly, I really do.
Welcome to the revolution!!
Message Edited by TsunamiKata on 02-23-2004 12:11 PM
TaeRocko wrote:
If this drop rate is what is being led on, then that is a bad thing. For a class to be judged on loot enhancements is not right, and that is what will happen if these frequent the live servers. No other combat class will have such great enhancements so readily available over what can be crafted.
As I see it, such easy to find enhancements are bad for CM and are bad for the game.
-TaeMessage Edited by TaeRocko on 02-23-2004 01:41 PM
It's not just CM loot drops at the cave. There are several other overpowered weapon components for other profession that drop there as well...
Ehm... There is a max of +25 bonus you can get from any amount of skill tapes in any skill. Don't waste your tapes trying to get +67, it won't work.
jkray8472 wrote:
2 things: 1) They already did nerf Krayt weapons.
2) Griggs, we'll have to get our hands on a few of these and play...see about the max effectiveness, what happens if you max the range out with rancor bile etc.
BTW, I don't know if anyone cares, but I have +67 CM effectiveness tapes and +24 CM use tapes, and I have prepared quantitative tests that will prove conclusive whether:
A) CM use tapes work
B) CM effect tapes work
C) If there really is a +25 cap (i.e. 125 eff at master)
I will post the results, along with my methods onto this forum for the rest of the CMs to peruse.
Kiarda Kismet
Gorath
spider venom: 169 power (although i have heard of 300ish ones, i just don't have any)
modified DM: 20 charges, 25 effective range, 20 area effect
Pappi wrote:
as i posted before, i got some legit loot from the Geo cave from a friends:
