Combat Medic Archive
Thread: You guys have to admit it,mcm is overpowered at the moment.
So your saying you prefer that healers can just keep healing / rez'ing people non stop so a battle/war never ends? If this is the case PvP'ing is going into the crapper fast.... If someone takes me out, then fine I have to clone, its the way it suppose to be. Give the person there victory, as it is now i kill someone, and 2 seconds later he's standing up again.. Tell me where the fun is in this?
Might as well just give everyone god mode and be done with it...
One solution instead of chaing the cool down timer on rez' is reduce the time someone can get a rez from 30 mins down to 5 mins...
Is a MCM supposed to be as good as a full jedi? Maybe jedis need buffing more I dunno........
No im not a jedi btw but thats just my take on it.
Message Edited by kingofpop on 07-20-200502:20 PM
Message Edited by kingofpop on 07-20-2005 02:20 PM
Geelo wrote:
Well jedi are supposed to be hard to kill and 50% kill rate on the best class in the game is too easy imo. And note that I dont know any other combo without MCM that can take down full templates that "easy". Also note that she only loses by making a mistake. I dont think jedis should be at the same level as an other class - I mean why go through all the hard work and time to get a full jedi if your not much if at all as powerful as you should be?
No im not a jedi btw but thats just my take on it.
You are full of it Geelo, the MBH MCM was a better pvp'er... there is some strategy involved in pvp not an "I Win" button. Most MCM have to fight for long periods to get anything done, its not instant. PvP is all about strategy and when a class is stronger than you (i.e. BH vs Jedi) the stronger class tends to not evolve or learn as fast as the weaker class... I am a MBH MCM and I am all through the forums looking info on Jedi templates, weaknesses, strengths, etc. and I look for methods to make me better. A lot of other BHs are the same, but I don't think many Jedi do even half the work some of us BHs do because you guys think that you are the strongest in the galaxy. Just look at the many great countries of the world who tried to take over smaller countries and got their a$$ whooped because they didnt study their enemy.
IF YOU WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH YOU JEDI NEED TO GET UP AND START TO USE YOUR BRAIN WHEN YOU FIGHT OR ELSE IF THEY EVER DO MAKE YOU GUYS MORE COMPETITIVE WITH BOUNTY HUNTERS (i.e more 1v1) YOU GUYS WONT KNOW WHAT TO DO BECAUSE ALL YOU SUCKY JEDI DO IS GRIND GRIND GRIND AND DON'T KNOW HOW TO PvP BUT EXPECT TO WIN ALWAYS!
P.S. And I am not a MCM because I think its so LEET, I really think its more fun then running around with my gun trying to shoot as fast and hardas I can!
Message Edited by mmaness on 07-20-2005 09:35 AM
/agree tbh
mmaness wrote:
Geelo wrote:
Well jedi are supposed to be hard to kill and 50% kill rate on the best class in the game is too easy imo. And note that I dont know any other combo without MCM that can take down full templates that "easy". Also note that she only loses by making a mistake. I dont think jedis should be at the same level as an other class - I mean why go through all the hard work and time to get a full jedi if your not much if at all as powerful as you should be?
No im not a jedi btw but thats just my take on it.
You are full of it Geelo, the MBH MCM was a better pvp'er... there is some strategy involved in pvp not an "I Win" button. Most MCM have to fight for long periods to get anything done, its not instant. PvP is all about strategy and when a class is stronger than you (i.e. BH vs Jedi) the stronger class tends to not evolve or learn as fast as the weaker class... I am a MBH MCM and I am all through the forums looking info on Jedi templates, weaknesses, strengths, etc. and I look for methods to make me better. A lot of other BHs are the same, but I don't think many Jedi do even half the work some of us BHs do because you guys think that you are the strongest in the galaxy. Just look at the many great countries of the world who tried to take over smaller countries and got their a$$ whooped because they didnt study their enemy.
IF YOU WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH YOU JEDI NEED TO GET UP AND START TO USE YOUR BRAIN WHEN YOU FIGHT OR ELSE IF THEY EVER DO MAKE YOU GUYS MORE COMPETITIVE WITH BOUNTY HUNTERS (i.e more 1v1) YOU GUYS WONT KNOW WHAT TO DO BECAUSE ALL YOU SUCKY JEDI DO IS GRIND GRIND GRIND AND DON'T KNOW HOW TO PvP BUT EXPECT TO WIN ALWAYS!
P.S. And I am not a MCM because I think its so LEET, I really think its more fun then running around with my gun trying to shoot as fast and hardas I can!
Message Edited by mmaness on 07-20-2005 09:35 AM
Brainplay wrote:
Leanardo wrote:
mdoc cant heal paralize, thyroid ruputure, and all the other debuffs, just the dots. And um ever tried draining a mcm with mind buff, and 3 foods specifically designed to increase mind regain? These foods are cheap too, 50k for a supply thatll last you a month if you use 3 a day.A jedi will run out of force before he even can think about destroying the mind with these buffs and foods. HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA....no wait seriously...hahaha
I always thought jedi would be something special in pvp, guess that /respec and double xp made so many of them there worthless. If you really truly believe this you ought to either practice more or just delete your jedi now. You have no clue how much better a single jedi is vs. a CM.
I guess ill jsut make my alt mdoc/mrifles and pwn again, i used to enjoy the cm duels, they though they could takeme, then they were on the ground crying. Oh well, maby cm isnt overpowered, maby jedi is underpowered
Leo
Thyroid rupture: -40% speed Adrenaline boost: +40% speed
Traumatize: -20% mind regen Serotonin injection: +20% mind regen
Hemmorage: -20% action regen Endorphine injection: +20% action regen
They are call DE-BUFFS for a reason! They put anyone who has doctor buffs back on level but not negative in numbers.
Jedi heals with just a single line from the healing tree are better than MCM heals. The only thing they lack is an area effect heal yet they get an infusion like doctors They use up less MIND points per heal and in retrospect have more healing capability than a MCM/MDoctor. The only way to beat a Jedi in a fight is to debuff his mind and attempt tocausethem to heal more than you do.
Frankly I'm insulted. Its like a slap in the face than any templateonly has to take 4/0/0/0 tobeat myhealing abilities (and thats withthe extra efficiency from 2/2/0/0 doc included)
You talk about foods that are sooo cheap and easy to use *notesarcasmand yet you act like Jedi aren't allowed to use those same foods.
Thyroid rupture: -40% speed Adrenaline boost: +40% speed
Traumatize: -40-50% mind regen Serotonin injection: +10% mind regen
Hemmorage: -40% action regen Endorphine injection: +10% action regen
But thats pointless anyway. A jedi can prevent a huge chunk of damage from CMs if he just eats the anti poison and anti flame foods. Specifically designed for people to fight CMs with.
Message Edited by BuhamutLotde on 07-20-2005 07:29 AM
Message Edited by BuhamutLotde on 07-20-2005 07:29 AM
BuhamutLotde wrote:
Brainplay wrote:
Leanardo wrote:
mdoc cant heal paralize, thyroid ruputure, and all the other debuffs, just the dots. And um ever tried draining a mcm with mind buff, and 3 foods specifically designed to increase mind regain? These foods are cheap too, 50k for a supply thatll last you a month if you use 3 a day.A jedi will run out of force before he even can think about destroying the mind with these buffs and foods. HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA....no wait seriously...hahaha
I always thought jedi would be something special in pvp, guess that /respec and double xp made so many of them there worthless. If you really truly believe this you ought to either practice more or just delete your jedi now. You have no clue how much better a single jedi is vs. a CM.
I guess ill jsut make my alt mdoc/mrifles and pwn again, i used to enjoy the cm duels, they though they could takeme, then they were on the ground crying. Oh well, maby cm isnt overpowered, maby jedi is underpowered
Leo
Thyroid rupture: -40% speed Adrenaline boost: +40% speed
Traumatize: -20% mind regen Serotonin injection: +20% mind regen
Hemmorage: -20% action regen Endorphine injection: +20% action regen
They are call DE-BUFFS for a reason! They put anyone who has doctor buffs back on level but not negative in numbers.
Jedi heals with just a single line from the healing tree are better than MCM heals. The only thing they lack is an area effect heal yet they get an infusion like doctors They use up less MIND points per heal and in retrospect have more healing capability than a MCM/MDoctor. The only way to beat a Jedi in a fight is to debuff his mind and attempt tocausethem to heal more than you do.
Frankly I'm insulted. Its like a slap in the face than any templateonly has to take 4/0/0/0 tobeat myhealing abilities (and thats withthe extra efficiency from 2/2/0/0 doc included)
You talk about foods that are sooo cheap and easy to use *notesarcasmand yet you act like Jedi aren't allowed to use those same foods.
I have docs and CMs and if i remember correct its-
Thyroid rupture: -40% speed Adrenaline boost: +40% speed
Traumatize: -40-50% mind regen Serotonin injection: +10% mind regen
Hemmorage: -40% action regen Endorphine injection: +10% action regen
Message Edited by mmaness on 07-20-2005 10:32 AM
Geelo wrote:
A BH in our guild is MBH MCM with some pistols and regularly takes down full template jedis. She has about a 50% success rate I would say but you have to admit that MCM is the only profession that can regularly take down full templates even if they know you are coming. The 50% she loses are caused by lag or a miss timed application of a debuff etc.
Is a MCM supposed to be as good as a full jedi? Maybe jedis need buffing more I dunno........
You're going to have to be more specific on those take down.How many of those take downs are low level grinders? How many of those have 0 healing in their template? How many of those have little or no defender (hence defenses) in their templates.
Grinders= easy take down for just about anyone
No healing= only option is ruby biel and stims and some really nice crystals. Against other Jedi with healing they are cannon fodder.
Little or no defender= These guys take bigtime damage which makes them have to continously heal heal heal. A traumatize will help but it only keeps down their MIND regen (which is slow for everyone already). Unless they dont have MLS or just some crappy crystals they can still out dps you which will make for a close fight.
Statements like you're making are too ambiguous to view the details that count.
Wow, dude! I never knew that one. I'll have to keep it tucked away in my "CM hurt jedi and therefore need to be nerfed all" defenses. Is that a skilltape or do I have to grind something for it?
mmaness wrote:
Why dont we add force sap which does what -30% or so to both action and mind..... come on our debuff last far shorter than doc buffs so we expend a lot more mind to keep up with our debuffs, im not flaming you buhamut but just before any docs come in and talk about this, premepetive defense i guess you could say
Message Edited by mmaness on 07-20-2005 10:32 AM
Brainplay wrote:
Wow, dude! I never knew that one. I'll have to keep it tucked away in my "CM hurt jedi and therefore need to be nerfed all" defenses. Is that a skilltape or do I have to grind something for it?
mmaness wrote:
Why dont we add force sap which does what -30% or so to both action and mind..... come on our debuff last far shorter than doc buffs so we expend a lot more mind to keep up with our debuffs, im not flaming you buhamut but just before any docs come in and talk about this, premepetive defense i guess you could say
Message Edited by mmaness on 07-20-2005 10:32 AM
Force Sap is a Force Healing ability that reduces action regeneration by 35% and mind regeneration by 30%. It only has a mind cost of 8% while using traumatize and hemmorhage require 20% (10% each)
Message Edited by mmaness on 07-20-2005 11:19 AM
Geelo wrote:
A BH in our guild is MBH MCM with some pistols and regularly takes down full template jedis. She has about a 50% success rate I would say but you have to admit that MCM is the only profession that can regularly take down full templates even if they know you are coming. The 50% she loses are caused by lag or a miss timed application of a debuff etc.
Is a MCM supposed to be as good as a full jedi? Maybe jedis need buffing more I dunno........
Is a MBH suppossed to take down a full jedi? From what I read this person is a double master, so 50% success rate...well depends on who she hunts
Tunturi wrote:
Healing needs to take a bigger hit on the Mind Bar so fights dont last freaking forever...
If us normal professions (in this case Pistoleer/BH) can not spam there skills, why should healers (docs, CM and Jedi) be able to spam theres? And healing non stop is spamming... Takes forever to kill aHealer in combat because he heals faster then the damage I can dish out....
To my knowledge I have never been able to spam heal 'forever'. So now combat medic is not a 'normal' profession?
Sounds like the gist of the complaining is that they cannot kill us CM's fast enough. I'll keep that in mind in the future, that I should just die quicker so you will all be happy, I'm really sorry ifI make your fights last 10 minutes. Actually now that I think of it, your right, our fights do take too long, it takes us waaaayy too long to kill everyone else, I think our DOTS should be increased, that way our fights won't take so bloody long!
If you want a4 minute fight, go kill a Krayt. /sarcasm off
A pre-emeptivestatement to Tunturi, you actually just summed up most of the complaints rather well, that's why you got quoted.