Combat Medic Archive

Thread: So how long till you guys get nerfed?

TsunamiKata
Tue Feb 17, 2004 9:29 am
#27






MCPrimetime wrote:

I dont know about you, but i find it hard to fight effectively when i lost 3800 mind and can't even get off a special, nor can the 20 other people next to me. Then comes the triple incapp becase you stacked disease and posein on me. Tick Tock, The Nerf Bat is Coming.






Jesus MCPrimtetime,you done trolling on the Bloodfin board and now you have to come and troll on my forum too? Get the **edit** off my forum.







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MCPrimetime
Tue Feb 17, 2004 9:34 am
#28






TsunamiKata wrote:





MCPrimetime wrote:

I dont know about you, but i find it hard to fight effectively when i lost 3800 mind and can't even get off a special, nor can the 20 other people next to me. Then comes the triple incapp becase you stacked disease and posein on me. Tick Tock, The Nerf Bat is Coming.






Jesus MCPrimtetime,you done trolling on the Bloodfin board and now you have to come and troll on my forum too? Get the **edit** off my forum.








well if there werent so many damn good Cm's on bloodfin i wouldn't have to cry

Message Edited by MCPrimetime on 02-17-2004 11:55 AM



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MCPrimetime
Tue Feb 17, 2004 10:00 am
#29






TsunamiKata wrote:








MCPrimetime wrote:


well if there werent so many damn good Cm's on bloodfin i would have to cry





Be a doctor and stop whining.


You don't even need to master, just get 4/0/4/0 and you'll be happy.









bah no skill pts. It's not so much guys like you Tsu (mr. 96m), it's the clone zergers in tight areas.




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TsunamiKata
Tue Feb 17, 2004 10:29 am
#30







MCPrimetime wrote:

bah no skill pts. It's not so much guys like you Tsu (mr. 96m), it's the clone zergers in tight areas.




Be a TKM/MD, take 2 dose of brandy and two glazed glucose, carry plenty of cure poison and disease packs have a macro that continuosly looping with cure poison and disease.


KD/Dizzy the CM and then go UA3 on him/her/it. You won't loose a single mind for your TKA spam because of high focus.



Problem solved.



If you want to counter CM. Be a doctor.


If you want to counter defense stacker, be a CM.



Paper > Rock >Sissor


Message Edited by TsunamiKata on 02-17-2004 09:30 AM



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MCPrimetime
Tue Feb 17, 2004 10:38 am
#31






TsunamiKata wrote:







MCPrimetime wrote:

bah no skill pts. It's not so much guys like you Tsu (mr. 96m), it's the clone zergers in tight areas.




Be a TKM/MD, take 2 dose of brandy and two glazed glucose, carry plenty of cure poison and disease packs have a macro that continuosly looping with cure poison and disease.


KD/Dizzy the CM and then go UA3 on him/her/it. You won't loose a single mind for your TKA spam because of high focus.



Problem solved.



If you want to counter CM. Be a doctor.


If you want to counter defense stacker, be a CM.



Paper > Rock >Sissor



Message Edited by TsunamiKata on 02-17-2004 09:30 AM





I like brandy...mmmm saved my ass a few times this week.



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BigZak
Tue Feb 17, 2004 10:52 am
#32

It's not called a nerf with it is the bugs that are gonna be fixed. 84m toss is a pre-patch poison. I lucky to get 60m toss. I tried to take out a lesser swarming dewback lair and could not do it alone, they would regenerate and repair the lair faster than I could kill them. I dont call that over powered, I had a COMMANDO friend come and kill them all in one shot.....ONE SHOT. I worked on that darn lair for 20 minutes. Not over powered at all.
And I have yet to use poison or disease in PvP cause we usually agree with opposing team not to, I heal only in those fights. Besides my best only does 350 a tic (area C's), so how much damage do you do a tic. More than 350 I think.

Nerf not coming, bug fix coming.

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xXCircusXx
Tue Feb 17, 2004 3:33 pm
#33

LOL, why is commando even being mentioned in here??? Commando's are a joke now thanks to you whiners......whaaa whaaa, I let someone get within 16m of me and I got burned.....now i have wounds whaaaaa whaaaaaa whaaaaaa.....its not my fault for letting him get close enough to use a special that misses 50% of the time, its the stupid commandos fault for using his only working weapon....NERF NERF NERF



I also like it how combat medics use the excuse "we are the only ones thatcan counter defense stackers" yeah that is true, but are you agreeing once defense stacking is nerfed you need nerfed as well since you won't have to counter them anymore???? That seems to be your main excuse for being overpowered so only makes sense....





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Anti-Thug
Tue Feb 17, 2004 5:41 pm
#34






MCPrimetime wrote:





Anti-Thug wrote:





MCPrimetime wrote:





DoctorGriggs wrote:

So CM's should be the ONLY class to take a hit for the game? I think not.

You see, unlike we omnipotent CM's, there are many classes that get 1 hit wins and dont have to spend alot of skill points to get em. Their called "Knockdowns", and you might be surprised to find out that the Overpowered combat medic class doesn't have one.

In fact, we're so powerful we need others to fight with us if we're to have any chance at all, or take up a combat class like Rifleman. And here's the kicker...even if you're poisoned, you can still fight 100% effectively. Try doing that while lying on your back because you got hit by some defense stacker's I Win warcry+kd macro.


This post gets 5 stars for telling it exactly how it is. I never even thought of that in my argument, but the fact is someone COULD still be 100% combat effective when poisoned.






I dont know about you, but i find it hard to fight effectively when i lost 3800 mind and can't even get off a special, nor can the 20 other people next to me. Then comes the triple incapp becase you stacked disease and posein on me. Tick Tock, The Nerf Bat is Coming.







you can't kill a cm in 20 seconds?.....all jokes aside...you suck!!!




When you get hit from 96m and they burst run before you even realize you've been hit or can target them, you tell me? 1 on 1 they are a joke, but try targeting them in a20 on20 battle. You obviously don't PvP very much.






I am in a guild with 10 factional bases...I PvP all of the time...90% actually and I have only been killed once by a cm without killing him...here is some free PvP advice..


/follow


/burstrun


this will put you in range very quick...also if you get killed make sure you kill him next time....


It's all about strategy....just because you suck at PvP doesn't mean CM needs to be nerfed. Not to mention I have never seen a 95m range area poison...just people complaining about it......I have mediocre resources and can't throw anything longer then 25m...but whatever....nerf will never come...fix might.....when you raid...bring a doc...you'll be healed before the second tick





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MCPrimetime
Tue Feb 17, 2004 8:42 pm
#35






Anti-Thug wrote:






I am in a guild with 10 factional bases...I PvP all of the time...90% actually and I have only been killed once by a cm without killing him...here is some free PvP advice..


/follow


/burstrun


this will put you in range very quick...also if you get killed make sure you kill him next time....


It's all about strategy....just because you suck at PvP doesn't mean CM needs to be nerfed. Not to mention I have never seen a 95m range area poison...just people complaining about it......I have mediocre resources and can't throw anything longer then 25m...but whatever....nerf will never come...fix might.....when you raid...bring a doc...you'll be healed before the second tick








First off, I am not here to bash you guys, I am simply here to find out why you think the system is fair the way it is. (I knew my post would incent some constructive arguments).

I don't suck at PvP. Just because I am calling for a nerf doesnt mean I die every 2 minutes from a CM. I am complaining at a macro level, large scale battles as well as solo PvP. I can take down multitudes of people with my defense stacking, bla bla bla. I know I will be nerfed, fine, but what about for all of us after the nerf? Will that change anything? In fact, defense stacking is irelevant is this argument. This applies to anyone in battle, because the only defense is a doc, and I feel that is wrong. TKA meditation is a pretty weak argument as a defense...cause you are either being shot at constantly or you have to run 500m away to heal. Not everyone is in 100+ people guilds that can grab 4 docs on their way out to a largescale battle. Many people either try and solo small cities, or use small groups.

As I said earlier, consider solo PvP...96m poisen plus instant burst run=you will not catch the CM under any circumstances. Even if I see him instantly, I will be 96+ meters away until I either run the other way to heal or until I have 0 mind. In the first instance, that is a waste of everyones time. In the second instance...I most likely have to avoid EVERY shot after 30 seconds to avoid an incapp. Sure, if I catch him dueling 1 on 1 20 m away, he is dead. But how likely is that?

Now a large group situation...if you disease 20 people at once..how many will the doc make it to in 30 seconds? Not all 20, which means you have a certain amount of people ready to be one shot killed. That is not fair to them, that IS an "I win" button. This is without even getting in to clone zerging.When things get hot and battles get big, you have 1-5 people shooting at you at once. YOU TELL ME how you are supposed to see the CM, target him, run after him and kill him. I am lucky if I even see the system message of who applied the poisen/disease, as is everyone else.

Here's a tip for YOU. If you haven't seen 96m poisen, then your server is way behind the times, and you have not been exposed to the highest level of PvP there is yet. Guys on my server like TsunamiKata spend the time and money to get great resources, and obviously have stock of pre-nerf stuff.I get hit from 80+ meters all the time, and have to make it through multitudes of master head shots and advance strafes just to get close to the CM in a large battle.

Third,if you have only died once to a CM, then you are fighting noob CM's. Any smart one will stack disease and poisen...even if you kill them in 30 seconds, you only have a slim chance of meditating off one of them to avoid a triple incapp. If they dont get the stack, they are either running already or pulling out a rifle for head shots. YES group doctors can save you...but what about the multitudes of people that PvP solo or in small groups without doc's? Should they be forced to not PvP? A Doc OR a CM shouldn't be a requirment for PvP, only an added bonus like other professions (let's not get into other professions that are over/underpowered).

I am not asking for you guys to be nerfed to oblivion....the stacking bug needs to be fixed now, that is a for sure.The ticks are too quick IMO as well. I don't know, maybe the area poisen cone is too big. All I do know for sure is that something needs to change.

PvP isNOT 1 on 1 duels. Everyone knows that fighting a CM 1 on 1 is a likely win with most combat professions. Maybe you guys should get added strength in defenses so that you are more effective 1 on 1...I know you use a lot of skillpoints. But you shouldn't be able to hit 20 people with 800 tick mind poisen at one time. No other profession can do group damage like that, especially with that accuracy.


Flame away, I dont care.






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Rudoku
Tue Feb 17, 2004 10:28 pm
#36






TsunamiKata wrote:

If you're a doctor, you wouldn't be coming on here, moaning and groaning about it now, would you?










Nope, I wouldn't. Unless I forgot to make Disease Packs.
DarkNexus1014
Tue Feb 17, 2004 11:11 pm
#37






Rudoku wrote:





TsunamiKata wrote:

If you're a doctor, you wouldn't be coming on here, moaning and groaning about it now, would you?










Nope, I wouldn't. Unless I forgot to make Disease Packs.






That was great


As to the people complaining about CM, I won't say one way or the other. But I will say this: you are mainly complaining about exploits, not the overall power of the Combat Medic. They exploit to get huge range on their poisons. Ok, so don't bring the whole class down over a few people. Complain about them! Please! If they nerf CM, it will only be a matter of time before the exploiters find another profession to use. I await the day I see "Nerf teh pikemen! I got killded cuz one got me while I was AFK!"




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Anti-Thug
Wed Feb 18, 2004 1:12 am
#38






MCPrimetime wrote:





DoctorGriggs wrote:

So CM's should be the ONLY class to take a hit for the game? I think not.

You see, unlike we omnipotent CM's, there are many classes that get 1 hit wins and dont have to spend alot of skill points to get em. Their called "Knockdowns", and you might be surprised to find out that the Overpowered combat medic class doesn't have one.

In fact, we're so powerful we need others to fight with us if we're to have any chance at all, or take up a combat class like Rifleman. And here's the kicker...even if you're poisoned, you can still fight 100% effectively. Try doing that while lying on your back because you got hit by some defense stacker's I Win warcry+kd macro.


This post gets 5 stars for telling it exactly how it is. I never even thought of that in my argument, but the fact is someone COULD still be 100% combat effective when poisoned.






I dont know about you, but i find it hard to fight effectively when i lost 3800 mind and can't even get off a special, nor can the 20 other people next to me. Then comes the triple incapp becase you stacked disease and posein on me. Tick Tock, The Nerf Bat is Coming.







you can't kill a cm in 20 seconds?.....all jokes aside...you suck!!!



____Jaylando_________________________________________
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Pimpin' In Space, Yo! -- I am Evil....I am.....Sith!
Changed my mind...the NGE Sucks AND SOE threw the VETS Under the bus....CANCELLED!
MCPrimetime
Wed Feb 18, 2004 1:47 am
#39






Anti-Thug wrote:





MCPrimetime wrote:





DoctorGriggs wrote:

So CM's should be the ONLY class to take a hit for the game? I think not.

You see, unlike we omnipotent CM's, there are many classes that get 1 hit wins and dont have to spend alot of skill points to get em. Their called "Knockdowns", and you might be surprised to find out that the Overpowered combat medic class doesn't have one.

In fact, we're so powerful we need others to fight with us if we're to have any chance at all, or take up a combat class like Rifleman. And here's the kicker...even if you're poisoned, you can still fight 100% effectively. Try doing that while lying on your back because you got hit by some defense stacker's I Win warcry+kd macro.


This post gets 5 stars for telling it exactly how it is. I never even thought of that in my argument, but the fact is someone COULD still be 100% combat effective when poisoned.






I dont know about you, but i find it hard to fight effectively when i lost 3800 mind and can't even get off a special, nor can the 20 other people next to me. Then comes the triple incapp becase you stacked disease and posein on me. Tick Tock, The Nerf Bat is Coming.







you can't kill a cm in 20 seconds?.....all jokes aside...you suck!!!




When you get hit from 96m and they burst run before you even realize you've been hit or can target them, you tell me? 1 on 1 they are a joke, but try targeting them in a20 on20 battle. You obviously don't PvP very much.




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