Combat Medic Archive

Thread: Make up your mind Elenora

Elenora
Wed Aug 20, 2003 10:35 am
#14

screams from nerf KD have been around since day 1...


nerfs for BH since the first BH whipped out underhand shot and then eyeshot...


as for us...flame me all u want for saying that we need to fix our class....but id rather have a balanced game than a overpowered class...


there are tons of things that need to be fixed...but i dont have a knockdown, I dont have eyeshot...all i have is dots and i know what they can do...and hence im not gonna go out and say that KD needs to be totally nerfed cuz I dont know the costs of using it...all I can say is what i know about my dots...


but i do think that spamming anything (includingmind dots)is a bad idea and that immunity timerseven for dotsare needed...so if a doctor cures a poison, make it so we can just reapply it the next instant





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Elenora Kaadara Naboo Ahazi
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-Myrick-
Wed Aug 20, 2003 10:58 am
#15

Well rifle just got the shaft today so you can count them out.


What's the point for doing about 300 damage MAYBE in PvP and then doing 160-200 to yourself.




Myrick

Elenora
Wed Aug 20, 2003 11:01 am
#16

yeah the t21 nerfs were pretty harsh...


dont for the life of me understand why SOE keeps beating down a hurting class...




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Elenora Kaadara Naboo Ahazi
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Stimaddict
Wed Aug 20, 2003 11:20 am
#17

probably becausea lot of ignorant people( hint-hint) keep whining about mind damage.



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Elenora
Wed Aug 20, 2003 11:25 am
#18

lol yeah but i have been complaining about mind damge from us and BHs not rifleman...


i think SOE doesnt realize that when people scream mind damage they arent even talking about rifleman...


it just seems like SOE thinks that somewhere inthe dev they removed all mind damage by anyone but mind damage...


reading the devs posts to the rifleman really show this




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Elenora Kaadara Naboo Ahazi
Master Combat Medic/Master Surgeon/Master Chemist
Elenora's Drugs - Better lives through better medicines
Stimaddict
Wed Aug 20, 2003 11:33 am
#19

i can honesly say i dont think mind damage is that much of an issue, neither is us not being able to heal mind. The only thing I think is overpowered is the rate eyeshot can be spammed at, BH speed on eyeshot is what needs fixing. not a total nerf but fireing at a rate 1eyeshot pr second sucks.I agree on leaving riflemen alone, but i dont see why BHs and CMs shouldent be allowed to do mind damage.


mind can be healed by NPC drop stims or you can buff it with spice, wear a helmet or migrate stats. if you insist on doing neither then yes, mind damage will kill you. But thats your own **edit** fault.




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-Myrick-
Wed Aug 20, 2003 11:34 am
#20

Yea the new T21's look like crap compared to a laser rifle.... a tier 2 marksman weapon. I guess its time to go with the tide and jump on the pistol bandwagon. At least I can heal my special drains.



Myrick

Elenora
Wed Aug 20, 2003 11:40 am
#21

helmets dont stop mind poison...


thing about rifles is there are are huge drawbacks to using one...


but the benefit, attacking an unhealable pool, was supposed to totally outweigh its drawbacks...


but unfortunately this idea fell apart when the decidedto give CM and Bhs the ability to target mind pool without having to deal with all the drawbacks...


hence the problems with the mind damge issue arose....


right now i think its really unfair that a CM or BH can do more mind damage and faster then rifleman....all rifleman have is mind damage....


stat migration and spice buffs help but they wont really stop the mind damage that we can inflict on others and in aoe forms...giving only 3 classes the ability to attack a unhealable pool wont lead to stat migration by others it will lead to class migration out of other professions into the 3 mind damaging ones....




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Elenora Kaadara Naboo Ahazi
Master Combat Medic/Master Surgeon/Master Chemist
Elenora's Drugs - Better lives through better medicines
MichaelF77
Wed Aug 20, 2003 11:41 am
#22

Fastgun: I completly agree with your points, BUT - the "put up fire" will happen for classes that devs deem overpowered, so instead of devs "put up fire" and nerf us into oblivion we want to present them issues / bugs (which is what Ele was doing) and have them fix it the least damaging way.
If you keep denying the fact (that CM is overpowered) then devs are going to do it their way and instead of fixing bugs will nerf.



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vvornth
Wed Aug 20, 2003 1:43 pm
#23

sorry to burst your bubble, but ask for a nerf and you WILL get it.


Problem is that it won't be based on your suggestion most likely, it's going to be what the designers think is good.


Whatever you ask, they're going to nerf it 50% more. Don't think you're saving your class by asking for nerfs, you're just shooting yourself in the foot and every other CM's foot at the same time.


They tend to overcompensate on both ways and you should know that by now.

Elenora
Wed Aug 20, 2003 1:44 pm
#24






Stimaddict wrote:
not much different from a game where 1 in 3 is BH.



and why do u think BHs are overpopulated?!



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Elenora Kaadara Naboo Ahazi
Master Combat Medic/Master Surgeon/Master Chemist
Elenora's Drugs - Better lives through better medicines
Elenora
Wed Aug 20, 2003 1:45 pm
#25






vvornth wrote:

sorry to burst your bubble, but ask for a nerf and you WILL get it.


Problem is that it won't be based on your suggestion most likely, it's going to be what the designers think is good.


Whatever you ask, they're going to nerf it 50% more. Don't think you're saving your class by asking for nerfs, you're just shooting yourself in the foot and every other CM's foot at the same time.


They tend to overcompensate on both ways and you should know that by now.






You probably right....but somewhere in me is an idealist that thinks maybe SOE gives a squat about what people are posting and other ideas to their own



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Elenora Kaadara Naboo Ahazi
Master Combat Medic/Master Surgeon/Master Chemist
Elenora's Drugs - Better lives through better medicines
Fastgun
Wed Aug 20, 2003 1:50 pm
#26

Forget what you want to happen, look at what does happen. Then ask yourself if your doing this community a favor. Once they take somthing away, it requires a massive amount of campaigning to get it back or get it fixed. This community simply isn't large enough (yet?) to be a blip on the Devs radar.



Fastgun

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