Combat Medic Archive
Thread: CMS IMBALANCED YES OR NO? vote here
/NO
I don't think we are imbalanced or overpowered. I think we are slightly off balance due to the fact that we do PvP style damage in PvE. There are som bugs that should be removed as well. And maybe there should be a re-hash of the way Area Poison and Area Disease is working.
But, through the use of proper preparation and proper tactics it's not impossible to beat combat medics. The inclusion of even one player geared towards destroying combat medics (just as some players include Combat Medics to destroy defense stackers) can keep an entire squad of Combat Medics on the ground with no possibilities to use their poisons.
Even more so if the range bug is fixed.
So, perhaps we are rather underpowered, it is just that the general approach to Combat Medics are faulty. (Whining in the CM forum isn't going to save you on the battlefield)
ya true there ppl out there like this but you compleetly ignorded my post above how about things like that
PinheadDoC wrote:
You choose your stradegy You pick your defense and then you die.... By the hands of the Combat Medic.. Keep up the great work Guys.. You guys bring balance to the I am going to group TEF Kill everyone with my defesive template all day long.. and i am not smart enough to bring a doc to cure me......
Combat Medics rule..
My vote is NO
ZenTripper wrote:
Not my fault your docs aren't smart enough to clear all the poisons. Oh and BTW the CM had to sit there for 4 seconds doing no movement while the animation runs. So if you were paying attention you could have caught them and killed their non-defended arse.
You couldn't possibly PvP with a statement like this!
As for DPS being the lowest, I am wondering if that is fact. This happened to me in PvP just this evening
-----------------------Mind-------Focus-------Willpower
Base----------------+800-------+125--------+450
Moun---------------+500-------+500--------+500
V Brandy(x2)-----+820--------+820--------+820
Ent Buff--------------------------+250--------+450
PowerBoost-------+400-----------------------------
Total------------- +2520 ------ +1695 ---- +2220
I got mind incapped. I was with a team of 9 people. Guess what 70% of them got incapped from. Ya, you guessed it mind poison/disease. I lasted the longest which was probably a full minute 30secbecause of my stacking on the mind.
YOU DO NOT PvP. No way, no how. Your statements are absolute fabrication. I never saw the CM that applied the poison on me nor anyone else. It happened so fast when blaster fire and 20 peeps are running around with AT-ST and pets, there is no way to keep track of the cowardly CM that area poisons and runs.
Not to mention if your lucky you have 30 secs before you incap in PvP cuz you also take fire from everyone else.
People are sick of hearing the DPS whine. You fail to mention its on the ONLY pool that cannot be healed reasonibly and is not subjected to the 75% PvP dmgreduction.Once you are mind poisoned you know your going down. Its that simple.
Imbalanced = YES
I am a master CM/Master Doc and I have no idea what the heck you are actualy saying. I can totaly clear 4 people and myself in the 30 seconds you are talking about. I use the best resources in my cures and that will more than offset even the spider venum poisons every time. I have never failed with a good cure at cureing a poison... Ever. I clear at leaste 20 poisons a night (this is an average that includes nights where I don't cure at all)
Here is what your docs need to do. (and options for if they are CMs as well)
#1 watch for the poisons
#2 Cure self first (poison)
#2.5 Cure self first (disease)
#3 cure strongest PvPers second (poison/disease)
(#4 /healmind the players you cure)
They would have to have a 1000 a tick poison to incap most players before your docs cure the poisons. I have rarely gotten poisoned where I couldn't cure myself before it ticked because I pay attention to this.
So what is so overpowered about a 75 DPS weapon? The fact that it hits all at once instead of spread out? 75 * 8 = 600 a tick (about average for even great comonents) I know you are tired of hearing these numbers and you will come back with ... "Some guy hit me with 1000 a tick poison and i incapped." This was a venum enhanced pack and those packs will be gone soon as they get used up as the drop and spawn rate have been drasticly cut. And the power of the loots was nerfed as well (and a good thing too in my opinion.)
We are stuck in one place and if your PvP group isn't watching to see who is throwing the poisons you need to be trained in tactics a little better. My group singles out the Docs and CMs first and then go after everyone else after they are dead. We rarely incap from poisons+disease because we watch for it. That is the reason to bring the docs with you. We use tactics and do not just zergrush the front line. Back to not being able to move. It takes a disease+poison to incapp someone. So watch to see who trew that poison and start chasing them 8 seconds later they will try to throw again and will be "rooted" for 4 seconds giving you pleanty of time to put them within range and kill them. Or you could hold back and let yourDOCs and CMs fix you up. Point being if you are not smart enough to get healed then I agree with you you are going to be going down fast. But if you let yourself get healed you will fight some more.
Tell your CMs to heal your mind up at times. I know I do, and it saves the battles many times because the other side thinks that the CMs are a trump card if they throw poisons. I can heal 1000+ mind damage with a single /healmind. You know what it is worth the 20 some odd wounds that I take to keep up my fighters. With Muon, Brandy, buffs and milk I can keep up and running even with 500-600 mind wounds.
Why, in all the forums, are the only people in favor of CM's or defending them, also CM's?
Is every other person who doesn't play a CM character in this game a loser, that doesn't learn tactics, and needs to stop whining? Or could there be a valid point...
sk8boarda22 wrote:
Why, in all the forums, are the only people in favor of CM's or defending them, also CM's?
Is every other person who doesn't play a CM character in this game a loser, that doesn't learn tactics, and needs to stop whining? Or could there be a valid point...
People run scared from CMs because you don't defeat them in the same way you defeat non-cm combat professions. You have to keep more on your toes around CMs but if you catch them they are dead because they are about as hard to his as a Nuna (maybe easier.) Other Combat Profesions you just spam 2-3 specials of choice at them till they are dead or you kite them. CMs you have to work on some timeing to kill. This is hard especialy over slower connections but I hunt CMs with my alt (fencer/swordsman who burstruns up to them and kills them shortly after they hit me with their disese most of the time. assuming the typical poison run disease run aproach) Burst run up to the CM to keep them in range of ranged combat professions and run up to them (They will be rooted for 8 full seconds once they throw the first poison (first root 4 seconds + secont root 4 seconds))
To answer your question, usualy those complaining about CMs either don't know the facts or are just trolls running around. They tend to float from forum to forum to attack certain profesions and then at some point they go Nerf herding at other places.
Then stop pushing it. Refuse to group with CM's. Practice what you preach.
CaanonWeathers wrote:
Yes. For PvP CM is the "I win button" and I wish to see it stop being pushed.
Rchuno wrote:
sk8boarda22 wrote:
Why, in all the forums, are the only people in favor of CM's or defending them, also CM's?
Is every other person who doesn't play a CM character in this game a loser, that doesn't learn tactics, and needs to stop whining? Or could there be a valid point...
People run scared from CMs because you don't defeat them in the same way you defeat non-cm combat professions. You have to keep more on your toes around CMs but if you catch them they are dead because they are about as hard to his as a Nuna (maybe easier.) Other Combat Profesions you just spam 2-3 specials of choice at them till they are dead or you kite them. CMs you have to work on some timeing to kill. This is hard especialy over slower connections but I hunt CMs with my alt (fencer/swordsman who burstruns up to them and kills them shortly after they hit me with their disese most of the time. assuming the typical poison run disease run aproach) Burst run up to the CM to keep them in range of ranged combat professions and run up to them (They will be rooted for 8 full seconds once they throw the first poison (first root 4 seconds + secont root 4 seconds))
To answer your question, usualy those complaining about CMs either don't know the facts or are just trolls running around. They tend to float from forum to forum to attack certain profesions and then at some point they go Nerf herding at other places.
lol, I didn't actually expect someone to bite... "They are all trolls with no knowledge of tactics, they have to learn to play the game"... so you're calling out every single person who's not a CM basically. The power has gone to your head ![]()
And when you say "They", going from forum to forum... I know several of my friends, who have never posted on these forums before, that have registered just to voice their opinions on how unbalanced the Combat Medic profession is, lol. But I really didn't expect someone to actually believe, that every single other person on these forums, "don't know tactics", and "can't learn to play the game"... *sigh*
sk8boarda22 wrote:
Rchuno wrote:
sk8boarda22 wrote:
Why, in all the forums, are the only people in favor of CM's or defending them, also CM's?
Is every other person who doesn't play a CM character in this game a loser, that doesn't learn tactics, and needs to stop whining? Or could there be a valid point...
People run scared from CMs because you don't defeat them in the same way you defeat non-cm combat professions. You have to keep more on your toes around CMs but if you catch them they are dead because they are about as hard to his as a Nuna (maybe easier.) Other Combat Profesions you just spam 2-3 specials of choice at them till they are dead or you kite them. CMs you have to work on some timeing to kill. This is hard especialy over slower connections but I hunt CMs with my alt (fencer/swordsman who burstruns up to them and kills them shortly after they hit me with their disese most of the time. assuming the typical poison run disease run aproach) Burst run up to the CM to keep them in range of ranged combat professions and run up to them (They will be rooted for 8 full seconds once they throw the first poison (first root 4 seconds + secont root 4 seconds))
To answer your question, usualy those complaining about CMs either don't know the facts or are just trolls running around. They tend to float from forum to forum to attack certain profesions and then at some point they go Nerf herding at other places.
lol, I didn't actually expect someone to bite... "They are all trolls with no knowledge of tactics, they have to learn to play the game"... so you're calling out every single person who's not a CM basically. The power has gone to your head
And when you say "They", going from forum to forum... I know several of my friends, who have never posted on these forums before, that have registered just to voice their opinions on how unbalanced the Combat Medic profession is, lol. But I really didn't expect someone to actually believe, that every single other person on these forums, "don't know tactics", and "can't learn to play the game"... *sigh*
Wispxrush wrote:
Yes or NO? Please vote!
YES. We need a boost to PvE damage.
My vote isNO they are not overpowerd or unbalanced.
For you guys screaming that the ticks are 800 or more then I am saying that is either some kick arse poison or your not taking into account that there might either be more than one CM stacking poisons on you and your groups, or they can stack singles with areas. this will make for a good effect. especially if the entire poison/disease aresenal is unleashed and all your stats, including subs are gone, but you have to take into account that that is our only attack. so yes we may hit hard with a few things but every other profession can hit twice as hard when you factor in time and how often you guys can attack. Once our stuff is on you we can't stack it anymore - thats it that all we can do isa few things then wait for it to take effect.
If you guys wanna scream nerf or imbalance my vote goes to TKA. those freaks have too much defense and specials. Get this I heard a TKA talking about soloing a Krayt dragon. If any profession can do that it should be automatic nerf. How you say, well he did admit it was tuff getting close enough, but if you could get in just spam KD/Dizzy and beat him to death. Plus those guys can just destroy anyone, and if I as CM poison/disease them they just mediate it away. Why them and no other profession? Its not right to let them buff themselves when no other profession can do anything like that. I scream NERF NERF NERF!!!
Leave the CM's alone. If anything I would say prevent stacking of singles and areas, but that would be it.