Combat Medic Archive

no, wait, i saw this game... "pong" i think it was called. it was really easy to understand! maybe you could make swg more like pong! think of it! fast paced action! iconic characters! MORE FUN!

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cydonia wrote:

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neutrineaux wrote:

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cydonia wrote:

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Anti-Thug wrote:

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now we only are good for ranged heals.....

i dont think we are quite ready to say this yet there is no proof. have you tested large scale PvP under this new system? please if you have let me know.

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you know the devs are about to change some major things in the game a few that i have heard are

1. accuracy nerfs across the board (guess whatt consider inoculations to be your early accuracy nerf)

2. buff nerfs (making your poisons do higher percent damage overall)

3. ham cost are going to be completely different (if you do secondary poisons then they may have hard times useing specials)

FACT is there is tooomany unknowns and with that all your "the nerf is too strong" arguments are NULL AND VOID without more info. so in the mean time shut up quit yelling at the devs who i and others dont think are stupid and have some patience

Message Edited by cydonia on 08-01-2004 08:15 PM

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i think we have been patient. i felt like i was being patient for the past year.

O i am sorry you have been patiently waiting for the last year kicking the crap out of everyone.

sarcasm? you aren't really sorry are you. *sniff

ok, cm's have been kicking in certain situations for months since venom started dropping, true. we also had a long time there where much of our stuff did not work right. remember the outrageous cmu levels on some items last fall? i think i had one that had a cmu of 481!

not all of us use venom regularly or at all though, and without that, we are already pretty balanced after the havla and range issues were addressed (even range wasa largely venom based issue, i think. i own no venom, so i am basing that on what others have said). and many cm's have called for it to dissapear, me included. without venom, cm is not radically out of balance, might be a bit underpowered based on the sp investment. with venom, a cm can do too much damage compared to other elite professions. most cm's will agree with that, i think.

This must have been really hard on you.I almost feel bad. Take almostany other prof and they have had it much worse than cm.

my personal favorite, misery loves company. is the goal of game changes to make this as unpleasant as possible for as many professions as possible? if so,the changes, not just this, but most of the changes that have been implemented, have been on target. but just because commando is nerfed beyond reason and few go into it is not really a valid argument for destroying another profession.

You have had some hard changes over the months though... like spider venom dropping inproving your poisons and adding mind heal that must have been hard on you.

not only did we not ask for this (venom), many of asked for it to go away. mind heal helps you, the poison victim, and is purely supportive and very costly in most cases, to the provider. it alone remains as a reason to go cm, i fear. oh, i almost forgot dispersal mechanism sales! woot!

90% comp and synthsteak and imp psgs coming out making you (and all other profs) untouchable except for Dots must have been hard on you....

even with these, cm's have such low defense mods we die pretty easily. ok, some of these guys may be more resilient than me, but i die REALLY quick after i throw one or two bombs.

you had to wait patiently for all this to pan out havent you?

actually, i was referring to patiently waiting for the bigger issue of overall game fixes, i.e., the mythical combat balance/redo. that was what i thought you were referring to when you suggested being patient. what were you referring to, anyway?

and yes, i have been patiently paying my subscription each month, hoping pvp will be better, just like many others, maybe even you. i thought that was what you were refering to when you said we should just be patient.

i cant imagine what it must have been like for you and all your pain.

no you don't want to be empathetic, you insensitive toad! you want to hurt me, don't you!?! you have a chip on your shoulder, and you want to vent your hormone driven angst on me!

oh, sorry, it was sarcasm again. i see that now.

now i am doing it, too!

Well its the non CMs turn to see a balance fix

this change is blatantly out of balance, and pretty much everyone agrees to that aspect of it, even those rejoicing that something was done, even if it was stooopud. even you know that this is not balanced. "its the non CMs turn" is a revenge/punishment statement. what you really want is to punish us, you naughy, evil, wicked, sadistic pervert! spank me!

and i dont think you can argue for a nerf to this fix when A. you have not tested it. and

sometimes one can use the available information and extrapolate likely outcomes. if that train hits me, i will likely die. even though i have never been hit by a train, based on reliable info regarding the energy delivered in such a blow, i can predict the likely outcome, even if no one had ever been hit by a train. we have enough information here to realize this is likely to devastate our offensive capability to the point that it is meaningless in combat. combat medic becomes an oxymoron.

that is not a balanced fix, even if you balance other professions in some future publish after jtl. few here would argue with a balanced fix. many here have called for gas masks, poison anitdotes, etc. but this is overkill on the face of it.

we will be forced to try it and see, or bail to another line of work, etc. but a balanced fix is not what we object to. if we had one, oh, some of us would whine a bit, sure (actually, i would not be one of them, thank you very much). deep down, it is human nature to want to win. you only post here because you want to win, and this improves your odds.

but we want to have fun, too. we get shut down by overpowered venom poison, too. many of us want biochemical warfare to be FUN! devastating, yes. completely overwhelming? that is not what we want, either.

B. you dont have ANY clue as to what the combat revamp is going to do and where you will fit after that

true. you obviously do not have a clue, either. none of us can predict. and we certainly cannot rely on what the powers that be have told us, because they do not even know themselves. but at best, that is slated for several months from now, and based on the adherence to the schedule they have previously published in this vein, it may be many months away. it may not ever happen. breaking cm until many months from now is no better than breaking commando for many months, or CH. or pikeman. we all lose when we lose another profession to ridiculous overkill. it becomes increasingly homogeneous and less fun.

and i am curious to know what changes have gone so well that one might conclude that the devs are not stupid?

Ok well if you have ZERO faith in the devs why are you here?

because i love the swu, have been playing sw games for years, my "guild" as we call them here, formed in 1995, and i want to participate in its activities here. i have other perfectly good reasons for being patient and hoping, but not many for having a high level of confidence in the implementation of changes by this group.

If you really think they are stupid why do you play?

*see above

I mean if you go get a hair cut and you are 100% sure your going to get a crappy hair cut do you still go to that place?

i cut my own hair. need i say more?

i hear a lot of people say " devs are stupid" but are they really stupid? most of them have very high levels of education.

high levels of education do not preclude stupidity. *see info under united states government regs, written by very highly educated people for the most part.

Plain and simple this game was put out a year too early and the devs were told to just deal with it.

if so, that was stupid, IMO. but i tend to roll the higher management and "the devs" into one ball that is "in charge of this" and responsible for how it is managed.

they have had a very hard job.

you will get no argument from me here. but you still did not point toone instance that would mitigate the accusation that the "dev's are stupid." was that an oversight, or a lack of an example? i did not say that they were... at least not in this post. i think i did say they are liars once, which i believe to be an accurate staement of fact... i just said i can't prove they aren't stupid, too, based on their actions. but liars can also be stupid.

If you dont like that the game is not currently ready and balanced then quit and come back in a month i dont care.

love it or leave it? lol, lame today as it always has been. if everyone who did not like significant aspects of the game left, it would very likely fold. and we would not be very patient, would we? (see how patient we are, playing, posting to the fora, hoping they will fix things? not leaving just because stuff is getting worse rather than better at the moment?)

and do you believe this will all shake out in a month? please!

how about if we fix things in increments, in an orderly and appropriate fashion so that balance is achieved rather than nerf this and that willie-nillie based on the cries of the angst-ridden adolescent whiners? if you want to balance a teeter-totter, you don't run to the extreme end to do it.

and i DO care if people leave in droves. maybe that is the difference between us. i would that it were fixed in a way that made it more fun for ALL of us, not just cream the commandos! they are too powerful! cream the creature handlers! cream the bounty hunters! cream the combat medics! heck, i even hope guys like you stay.

Me and a lot of other are going to stay.

well, darn it, i already said "i wish you would," so i can't take it back and say "too bad." lol.

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no, wait, i saw this game... "pong" i think it was called. it was really easy to understand! maybe you could make swg more like pong! think of it! fast paced action! iconic characters! MORE FUN!