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Thread: Garva Help! Ranger Revamp = No Forage = No Bait = No Fish!!!

gladiatory2k
Wed Sep 28, 2005 4:32 pm
#27



Shamonue wrote:
I have a fishing related question ............. why can't I fish out of the rivers on Kashyyyk?


As an unfortunate consequence of wookiees bathing in the river, the entire fish population on Kashyyk choked to death on giant hairballs.....poor little fellers



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LastEE
Wed Sep 28, 2005 5:19 pm
#28

Ever read the hitchhihker's guide (or see the movie)? Then you should be familiar with this phrase - "Don't Panic"(tm). This was answered almost immediately that it would be available from lairs. Everyone was so busy reading the revamp document they took no time to read the dev tracker response to this and the question was asked over 30 times in the first thread alone, jeesh.

Also, Jar of foraged bugs has been high-end BH loot for a while, ususally gained off of double-gold chevron level 82 Marks after a half-hour battle. I'm fairly certain I've already gotten them out of lairs before, and there is no doubt the new ranger stealing skill will provide us with many more jars of bugs from pickpocketing tusken warlords and such, and I'm sure I read somewhere that whenever a loot container is opened more than once per server cycle in places like the deathwatch bunker the loot gets replaced with bugs to prevent loot camping *continues dreaming*



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gera
Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:21 pm
#29



OldManDog wrote:

jultam wrote:
Oh great.... many more items to delete when looking for eggs.




QFE!


Was it any different with foraging?




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Bryan1138
Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:03 pm
#30

To be perfectly honest I don't see the harm in leaving it in for those of us who like forage the way it is. Why do you guys go out of your way to aggrevate players over little things like this? There is no upside of removing the skill,but there is downsideof further annoying players who like it.



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SproBeGrga
Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:07 am
#31






Thunderheart wrote:





lekkuboogie wrote:

I'm thrilled for the Rangers that they are getting some new content and function, its about time...

BUT

Forage eliminated because it isnt useful or used? Bad Bad for any of us who love to decorate! I use the foraged foods as table centerpieces and 'bowls of fruit' but most importantly foraged bait is your only way to start-up fishing from scratch! An I usually have an unlucky night and run out of chum bait too, and need to forage again! I make one or two fishtanks for people every single week, everyone loves them, and everyone should be able to get one in the future if they want one!


What about fishmeat for petstims too, I know thats got to be another concern (on another forum), but Please Please don't let us lose out ability to fish!!!


I'm worried the Devs working on Ranger may not even realize that fishing is vital to a petstim maker, but also a VERY desirable addition to our home decorating efforts!!


Help us please!



Have no fear! Fishing isn't lost!


Instead of using the foraging skill, you will be able to find bait by searching lairs!










Thunderheart, reconsider this, please, RECONSIDER! Getting eggs is one of the hardest things in the game (besides milk). Now I just can't imagine that I am getting like 50% bait from every lair I search in the future. Wooaaa!! OMG! I quit BE!



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Ariakas_DFR
Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:07 am
#32


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Number Two: Sea Bass.
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Number Two: They're mutated sea bass.
Dr. TH: Are they ill tempered?
Number Two: Absolutely.
Dr. TH: Oh well, that's a start.
neutrineaux
Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:52 am
#33






Thunderheart wrote:





lekkuboogie wrote:

I'm thrilled for the Rangers that they are getting some new content and function, its about time...

BUT

Forage eliminated because it isnt useful or used? Bad Bad for any of us who love to decorate! I use the foraged foods as table centerpieces and 'bowls of fruit' but most importantly foraged bait is your only way to start-up fishing from scratch! An I usually have an unlucky night and run out of chum bait too, and need to forage again! I make one or two fishtanks for people every single week, everyone loves them, and everyone should be able to get one in the future if they want one!


What about fishmeat for petstims too, I know thats got to be another concern (on another forum), but Please Please don't let us lose out ability to fish!!!


I'm worried the Devs working on Ranger may not even realize that fishing is vital to a petstim maker, but also a VERY desirable addition to our home decorating efforts!!


Help us please!



Have no fear! Fishing isn't lost!


Instead of using the foraging skill, you will be able to find bait by searching lairs!




that does not address the loss of foraged foodstuffs, which are nice for decoration, and also used by some of us post-curb as food.




no, wait, i saw this game... "pong" i think it was called. it was really easy to understand! maybe you could make swg more like pong! think of it! fast paced action! iconic characters! MORE FUN!


DeeSnider
Thu Sep 29, 2005 11:11 am
#34






SproBeGrga wrote:

Thunderheart, reconsider this, please, RECONSIDER! Getting eggs is one of the hardest things in the game (besides milk). Now I just can't imagine that I am getting like 50% bait from every lair I search in the future. Wooaaa!! OMG! I quit BE!





QFE!


TH, please consider changing the tables that generate "lair loot" so that % chance of finding eggs does not go down with this change. It should be easy to just change the "live animal" samples we loot from lairs and replace a % of them with bait. I run a dairy business, and eggs are hands down the hardest resource in the game to come by. Despite being mind-numbingly boring to "harvest", they can't be obtained with 30K resource crates (a good thing in my opinion), so the only option is hand gathering. I'd have to argue that milk is far easier to get then eggs. I can net 10K milk from one lair, that same lair will give me 50 eggs if I'm lucky. Eggs are so rare that I've never seen a stack bigger then 5K, and I run a dairy business. Please keep this in mind. Obscure resource harvesters and BE's thank you in advance.





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Atan
Thu Sep 29, 2005 11:24 am
#35



DeeSnider wrote:


SproBeGrga wrote:
Thunderheart, reconsider this, please, RECONSIDER! Getting eggs is one of the hardest things in the game (besides milk). Now I just can't imagine that I am getting like 50% bait from every lair I search in the future. Wooaaa!! OMG! I quit BE!


QFE!

TH, please consider changing the tables that generate "lair loot" so that % chance of finding eggs does not go down with this change. It should be easy to just change the "live animal" samples we loot from lairs and replace a % of them with bait. I run a dairy business, and eggs are hands down the hardest resource in the game to come by. Despite being mind-numbingly boring to "harvest", they can't be obtained with 30K resource crates (a good thing in my opinion), so the only option is hand gathering. I'd have to argue that milk is far easier to get then eggs. I can net 10K milk from one lair, that same lair will give me 50 eggs if I'm lucky. Eggs are so rare that I've never seen a stack bigger then 5K, and I run a dairy business. Please keep this in mind. Obscure resource harvesters and BE's thank you in advance.






You can get egg from the 30k crates... its under Organic/creature resources/Creature Food/Meat/Egg




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Rikilii
Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:22 pm
#36






Thunderheart wrote:





lekkuboogie wrote:

I'm thrilled for the Rangers that they are getting some new content and function, its about time...

BUT

Forage eliminated because it isnt useful or used? Bad Bad for any of us who love to decorate! I use the foraged foods as table centerpieces and 'bowls of fruit' but most importantly foraged bait is your only way to start-up fishing from scratch! An I usually have an unlucky night and run out of chum bait too, and need to forage again! I make one or two fishtanks for people every single week, everyone loves them, and everyone should be able to get one in the future if they want one!


What about fishmeat for petstims too, I know thats got to be another concern (on another forum), but Please Please don't let us lose out ability to fish!!!


I'm worried the Devs working on Ranger may not even realize that fishing is vital to a petstim maker, but also a VERY desirable addition to our home decorating efforts!!


Help us please!



Have no fear! Fishing isn't lost!


Instead of using the foraging skill, you will be able to find bait by searching lairs!










Can't we just use an Ewok or a Wookie?



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Thunderheart
Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:57 pm
#37






DeeSnider wrote:

TH, please consider changing the tables that generate "lair loot" so that % chance of finding eggs does not go down with this change. It should be easy to just change the "live animal" samples we loot from lairs and replace a % of them with bait. I run a dairy business, and eggs are hands down the hardest resource in the game to come by. Despite being mind-numbingly boring to "harvest", they can't be obtained with 30K resource crates (a good thing in my opinion), so the only option is hand gathering. I'd have to argue that milk is far easier to get then eggs. I can net 10K milk from one lair, that same lair will give me 50 eggs if I'm lucky. Eggs are so rare that I've never seen a stack bigger then 5K, and I run a dairy business. Please keep this in mind. Obscure resource harvesters and BE's thank you in advance.







I will most certainly pass this request along to the dev.





Kurt "Thunderheart" Stangl
Community Relations Manager

Rikilii
Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:21 pm
#38









DeeSnider wrote:

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I run a dairy business


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and I run a dairy business.







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Mooo!


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and Moooooooo!





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Eavik
Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:50 pm
#39






DeeSnider wrote:


I run a dairy business, and eggs are hands down the hardest resource in the game to come by. Despite being mind-numbingly boring to "harvest", they can't be obtained with 30K resource crates (a good thing in my opinion), so the only option is hand gathering. I'd have to argue that milk is far easier to get then eggs. I can net 10K milk from one lair, that same lair will give me 50 eggs if I'm lucky. Eggs are so rare that I've never seen a stack bigger then 5K, and I run a dairy business. Please keep this in mind. Obscure resource harvesters and BE's thank you in advance.







I would actually say that fish is much harder to obtain than eggs. At least with eggs, you don't even have to get off your swoop to search the lair...just drive by and search from lair to lair...boring and tedious, but not that difficult...


With fish, you have to get a fishing pole and bait...find a good spot of water to stand by - high fish density, low vegetation...cast your line out...tug up, tug right, tug up, tug right, reel in, wait 30 seconds and SOMETIMES you catch a fish, sometimes you dont. After you catch the fish, you go into your inventory, fillet the fish and get what, 10 units of fish for 2 minutes worth of work?


I really wish there could be a change to fishing - at the very least, just give us more units from each fish we fillet.
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