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Thread: Combat Professions: Express Your Opinions Here.
ok let's try this again using proper reading comprehension skills.
All of them except perhaps quantity.
Would you buy this food as it is now w/ no BE components or better resources if there was nothing else to be found?
yes
What are the Top Ten of these foods for you?
Jerecki wrote:
Freudian Slip!
I said that if you were concerned with fun factor and creativity of patch only, and not money, you should be impressed by this revamp. I did not say that you have to like this new system. It just seemed to me that you are more interested in sales and making money than actually making this profession different, inventive and creative. I was merely pointing out that the way you've been posting recently, one might think that you were only interested in large sums of money for what you make (Which we'll still make post patch).
This patch ISN'T a nerf, I never said it was. It is a change to balance the profession. I'm not speaking out of both sides of my mouth, I'm expressing my opinion on this patch. Balance does not equal nerf.
Btw, the post before this one is awesome. GREAT points!
You really need to take another look at all the previous "Balance changes" by the devs and notice that it is easier for the Devs to Nerf something than fix the rest and this is just another exmple of that.
Chefs will be SCREWED for the several months that it takes the devs to get around to changing the rest of the sytesms and if you think that is comming next month you are sadly mistaken. Keep in mind tht the chef fix is comming in the January Patch but guess what...... that patch isnt going to be live till most early Feb. so that feb batch if we get one will be sometime in march
We all know that any change the devs impliment you will agree with but trying to claim that this isnt a nerf but is a reblance that reduces the usefullness of the foods that chefs can make is counterintuitive.
oh no wait i want a crate of that food that gives me 2700 more weapons xp once per hr. oh wait no i lose 20 times that amount by the devs forcing me to use speicals to kill 3-4 animals then sit for a few do something else in the hopes that someday the devs actualy lower HAM costs like they claim is the plan
I never buy food because they are useless to me asthey are. A lot of these WILL be useful to me.
/shrug
Jerecki wrote:
I did not say that you have to like this new system. It just seemed to me that you are more interested in sales and making money than actually making this profession different, inventive and creative.
Doesn't it follow that if we were more than just different, inventive, and creative, in fact reaching into the realm of fun, good, and beneficial, the sales and making money would be a very good indication of that? Just an opinion.
New Coke was different, inventive, and creative. So is the McGriddle. Different, inventive, and creative only worked for one of these two. The other one was swiftly un-nerfed and met great rejoicing from all.
This would be a good comparison if we saw sales results. But we can't say these new foods will be a failure with so many people excited by the changes.
LeilaniKirlia wrote:
Jerecki wrote:
I did not say that you have to like this new system. It just seemed to me that you are more interested in sales and making money than actually making this profession different, inventive and creative.
Doesn't it follow that if we were more than just different, inventive, and creative, in fact reaching into the realm of fun, good, and beneficial, the sales and making money would be a very good indication of that? Just an opinion.
New Coke was different, inventive, and creative. So is the McGriddle. Different, inventive, and creative only worked for one of these two. The other one was swiftly un-nerfed and met great rejoicing from all.
So by that logic, its perfectly ok for me to say one might think you are an obnoxious knowit all that crawled out from under a rock when this revamp came up who insists he is right about everything and that others opinons are invalid that just likes to agitate people more than anything else?
Im not actually "saying" that...just that one might think that.
Jerecki. I feel like Im arguing with my child. This is called arguing semantics and Im not going to do it anymore. Its obvious you are the only one on this forum that has a clue about anything. I think I shall follow suit of the others previously and
*worships the ground under your precious feet*
Why do you insist on just agitating people? I accept that you have an opinion. Now leave me the %*&^ alone. I do not expect you to accept that other people can think differently from you. Youve shown time and again that you incapable of any thought process regarding a subject that is different from your own thinking.
My conversation with you is over as it has all been one sided anyway, just like everyone elses conversations with you have been. Feel free to respond with another little play on words if youd like. Im not to worried about accusations being made from you. Most of the people that are regulars around here know the kind of person I am and you trying to say crap about me isnt going to change that. Anyone thats bothered to read thestuff youve been posting knows the type person you are. You do quite a good job looking foolish on your own. Good day Jerecki.
Would someone else like to entertain us all now?
Jerecki wrote:
This would be a good comparison if we saw sales results. But we can't say these new foods will be a failure with so many people excited by the changes.
On Eclipse, from the people I have spoken with who have some idea what they are talking about, there is about the same number of revamp supporters as revamp haters. We can not say these new foods will be a success with so many people hating the changes, just to play devil's advocate, and share my thoughts.
Have any other chefs announced preorders to their customers with a link to the food revamp spreadsheet and food effects thread? I did so with the caveat that my resources will be much better than this and therefore the posted results should only be very conservative estimates. I'll update them all on BoH as well, but so far, I have lots of orders for anything crafting related (Orma, Pyollian, etc.) a couple of dizzy and dodge orders, a bunch of Vasarian, and a handful of unarmed damage (my guild has several tkm's). Considering we have nearly 70 members and literally every profession represented at least twice at the master level (with the exception of Bounty Hunter and Politician, we have no MBH and one Master Politician), this is more than a little disappointing. The CH'es don't want the pet buffs, and everyone else is relatively disappointed with their class's buffs (entertainers and medics especially) other than the TKM's, who love it all.
The only boon that I see so far in this revamp is that to provide these, I'll be stimulating theharvestables economy quite a bit. My customers really tend to pay attention to the amount of time they get buffed for each crate of food they get (425 BoH per crate X 8 minutes each is very nice for them). Since nothing high level, or heavily ordered for myself, seems to be even remotely high-quantity (BoH comes to mind) I will have to use BE enhancements and barrels to get things up as high as I can, and even then, my customers are already crying to me that they'll need to order five times as much at a time just to keep up their buffs for the same amount of time.
I don't really know where I was going with all this (it is late and I am still grieving for that Swedish Chef
) but anyway...we're not going to have sales figures that are reliable and stable until at least a month after the combat revamp goes Live. That's a long time from now. I do not see why people seem to be content to sit and wait without even making a fuss that this means we are stuck for an entire publish (as a length of time, between 4-6 weeks, generally)or longerwithout any judge of our future as a class other than what TH deems to tell us will be changing.
I guarantee it won't be hard numbers and it won't be the details that we need until it goes on test, and by then, who knows how far gone we will be? I'm not saying there is no chance of success for this patch, far from it. But it is quite a way's away still, and it's at least one full patch development cycle away, and for THE biggest system in the game, combat. They WILL take their time on this next publish, and we WILL be left in the cold for the majority of it.
Stopping now because I have no fancy conclusion. See ya later!
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