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Thread: Everybody please read: Question about sales

DrKeith
Thu Feb 05, 2004 1:07 am
#53

97% Crates minimum. I am not willing to go back to the make it by hand one at a time method. I did that enough when factories were bugged.



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Fredman
Thu Feb 05, 2004 1:12 am
#54

If i might throw in a users view point here on how i spend my money on food.


Inventory space is limited when i stock up it is usually done so i dont have to go hunting for supplies again and can safely make it through a few days without wasting the hours hunting supplies. That being said. What i normally carry is.


10 crates of PowerUps


10 weapons ( I am a bounty hunter and have to have pistols carbines and LLC and the different damage types)


3 crates of Camp kits (calling pets and vehicles and healing while waiting on things)


1 Crate of Stimpacks


1 Crate of probe driods


1 Crate of seeker driods


1 full suit of composite (9 pieaces)


3 Shield generators (have 3 due to shifting stats just pray one has a good shift)


5 Crates of Food ( currently 2 BoH 2 ryshcate 1 fishnak)


By the time you take into account that i have one of each food, driod, and stimpac uncrated that is a full pack.


That leaves my base inventory to hold loot. Which means when gunning down stormies or Nyms NPCs i can go about a hour before i have a full inventory and have to sort out what needs to be deleted.


I would just have to stop buying food if it could not be gotten crated i think. Space is very limited.


I could not carry as much stuff on me but that would mean more frequent trips away from where i am hunting to find a vault to store stuff in.


Guess all i am trying to say is buying food uncrated would be a major pain in the bumm and i would buy it alot less often and when i did it would be in greatly smaller amounts.







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Thu Feb 05, 2004 1:13 am
#55



Baigs wrote:


JakeBlues21 wrote:
With all that ex-whining... I might just question THEIR ability to please a woman!


I think you hit the nail on the head




Or maybe they couldn't the head




Or maybe they couldn't
sciguyCO
Thu Feb 05, 2004 1:16 am
#56

I might be able to cover expenses selling only singles, but it would require increasing the price of stacks, since due to inventory restrictions, people only tend buy 4-8 items, whether it's a single stack of food for 3k or a crate of 25 for 75k.


Currently, I usually take the last crate of a run, extract out singlesto get the crate to a multiple of 10 (usually 20) and putting the extracted stacksfor saleas singles using the same per-stack price as the crates. These rarely sell unless the crates get sold out. With the vendor item limit pending, the inability to sell crates would relegate my factories to components only, since with even a 200 item vendorlimit,a single factory run of a single foodtype would fill up 3-5 vendors.





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Meplorium
Thu Feb 05, 2004 1:20 am
#57

As a customer I would never buy by the single, not enough inventory space and the vendors are too slow. As a seller, I would never sell by the single, to much work to list them all, again vendors are to slow.

I could see myself selling or buy singles if they had a lootable enhancement that made the food extremely good, we are talking 2 to 4 fold increase here. Then on special occasions they would be worth it. Though I get feeling it would sit in my bank account and rot because I would never have that truely special occasion.


Food is just too consumable to go by singles in any situation.



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apulieus
Thu Feb 05, 2004 1:31 am
#58

The fact that this question is even asked fills me with dread.
fatgit
Thu Feb 05, 2004 1:33 am
#59

I placed 20 crates of Angerian on my vendors and 25 singles.

I sold the crates in 24 hours, half the singles are there. Unless the stacks are 1n 150+ uses, forget it.

So no, singles only would be the final nail in the coffin, I'll go Master Doc & sell buffs in corellia to make cash.
Quad7500
Thu Feb 05, 2004 1:33 am
#60

I've only sold Crates. Zero single item foods. Never had anyone request single item food either. Only Crates 100%.







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Drenarb
Thu Feb 05, 2004 1:51 am
#61

I haven't sold food in crates yet. All of my sales have been individually, and I'm making a nice profit.



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SoriahZ
Thu Feb 05, 2004 1:54 am
#62

I can't make a living off of singles alone.


That said, I have no real trouble selling singles. I just cannot sell them in enough quantity to cover my costs. I make enough moneyfrom crates that I can afford to have the singlessitting around on my vendorfor a couple weeks and the players who buy the singles do appreciate it. My singles buyers are mostly casual folks who can't afford crates and/or don't use consumables as rapidly -- if there were no singles these people would not be using food at all and that would justbe sad.


(As a point of reference I'm a fairly low-key master chef: just 2 factories, 3 or 4 harvesters going at a given time, and a cantina - the rent on that puppy is pretty hideous so I just live there. )


GalinHawk
Thu Feb 05, 2004 1:55 am
#63

Good approach Vodokar. Let me change that around for a "normal single-account" chef that does NOT have vendors (i.e. the question was "can you make a living without vendors":

harvester maintenance = 50 cr/hr *24 hr*7 days/week*5 Medium harvesters = 42,000

Power Cost = One Fusion PP running 24/7 = 12,600

Factory Maintenance = 75 cr/hr * 24*7*2 factories = 25,200

1 house = 6,300

Total weekly expenses = 96,100 cr.

Based on that, a chef would have to sell about 100,000 per week to be in the black.

So let's assume this chef is INCREDIBLY INNEFFICIENT and makes only 5 crates of food per week . Let's also assume that those foods sell for 2K per stack. That would be 25 X 2,000 X 5 = 250,000 in reveneues per week. Less from that the production costs, the bazaar listing fees (20 cr per unit?), shuttle fees to advanced planets (where this stuff will sell better) and you'll get a Net profit of about 125,000.

I'd think selling one case of food on a bazaar on each advanced planet PER WEEK would be reasonable. The bigger problem will be making those 2,000 cr. foods (as opposed to the more expensive and more competitive BE foods that will have to sell for 7,000 cr per stack and are too expensive to put on the Bazaar).

That said, this chef won't be making 1 million in profit per week... but they COULD make a living...

Message Edited by GalinHawk on 02-04-2004 05:00 PM



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turrix
Thu Feb 05, 2004 1:58 am
#64

I sell most of my foods in singles and i make quite a nice profit. Its more work, but i am able to sell quite a bit. My only problem is that a lot of the foods do the same thing(ex. burnout sauce and Tat sunburn) so its a matter of knowing which foods to sell. I'm sure this won't be much of a problem after the revamp.



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Akane
Thu Feb 05, 2004 3:16 am
#65

Probably 20% of my sales are from single stacks, while 80% are from crates. However, because of the difference in stack and crate prices, about 5% of the profit is from stacks and 95% of the profit is from crates. I doubt I could make a decent living on single stacks, even if I spent an indecent amount of time crafting them and putting them on my vendor.
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