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Numen

Mon Nov 15, 2004 10:40 am

ExDarthStorm wrote:

It was about trying to open the eyes of the community and the chef's to the fact that this isn't going to last much longer. And they need to start learning how, and WANTING to work with the system.

Most of you will have to lower your prices because no one will buy anything, other's will quit and move onto the next "hot" crafting profession.

We are working with the system. You seem to be assuming the entire economy is going to collapse. Real life businesses adjust to current needs. BP Amoco isn't going to lower the price of gas because they are expecting the price of oil to drop in the coming months. They will lower it if and when the price drops.

I don't alter a system because I think parts of the system will be changing in 2 months. I alter a system when those changes happen.

Rangers are not going to lower their prices, BEs are not going to lower their prices, but Chefs should? Of those 3, Chefs should be the ones that sell things for a loss?

As I stated when the game started with architects, everyone is welcome to charge whatever they want. I will always argue that a monopoly is not possible in this game, so you will never be able to get all the business. The thing that annoys me the most in this game is people trying to tell me what my time is worth. If someone has an issue with my prices, I just don't see why they should get pissed at me when all they have to do is hit Ctrl-V and find another vendor. Although I do find it funny when I see a vendor sale coming from them about 30-60 minutes later.

Like you said, people will adjust and I don't see why people should adjust without seeing what will happen first.

Amandil Morier - Tempest - Master Chef

ExDarthStorm

Mon Nov 15, 2004 11:42 am

#28

you guys are a crack up, all you can see is how this effects your own pockets.

One guy said that he bet's i have a really nice padded bank account. He's wrong, i have about 4million in the bank.

And about 1million has come off of the recent sales i've gotten from these posts. So basicly i'm braking even with this whole thing. I said it wouldn't last long, it was just to get some people's attention.

It's not about the creds, it's not about lowering the prices like crazy. If you read my post, you'll see that i was askin for a lot of chefs to get to together and start some kind of guild, mostly on my server to talk about REASONABLE prices for not only "substandard" chefs like myselfs, but also for the rest of the 12 pointers who have DO have padded bank accounts and who have the creds to spend 30million on a +2 suit. I can see where other chefs on other server's have kind of taken up a defencive stand. I know NOTHING of the prices on any other server. I play on Kettemoor and kettemoor alone.

Like i've said before, if all i've done is opened the eyes of the general population with this. Then i'm happy.

lol i do love the Robbin Hood comment though, that was pretty classic.

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Elmmx-5

Mon Nov 15, 2004 12:44 pm

#29

I think it's great that you are charging so little for decent food. I'm a chef on Kettemoor. I have +25 to both my experimentation and assembly. I also have fs experimentation and piles of very good resources. I'm not worried at all about being undercut. As you stated earlier, there are a couple different types of chefs. I fall into the, "I want to attempt to make the best product possible" one. Sure my stuff may be "better", but I think that not only do we have different goals, we have entirely different buyers. There are always players out there looking to buy those uber foods. I know my food isn't worth over twice as much as what you make because it's marginally better. The thing is, those players out there with lots of credits think it is. But in the end, I hope you do sell lots and maybe open some eyes in the process. I suppose if I was concerned with making the maximum amount of credits possible I could feel threatened but that's never been my goal. My point of view is... if my food sits a bit on my vendor, it just gives me more time to play around with different product

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Don_T_Shoot

Mon Nov 15, 2004 2:21 pm

#30

Opened the eyes of the general populace? Pfft, to what? Economics 101?

Go on professor, please teach us.

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ExDarthStorm

Mon Nov 15, 2004 4:16 pm

#31

sorry cryptic i wasn't putting everyone into the cred grubbers catagory.. just those who insist that it's just fine the way it is and the more creds they can make the better..

lol and as far as Don goes, i shall teach when what i learn is as complicated as it can possibly get, then i shall lay it out for you, in a way you don't understand.. that way.. you, nor I will have any clue what's going on...

it's much more fun that way!

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Bliznit

Mon Nov 15, 2004 4:30 pm

#32

I price my foods fair. I produce top quality goods. There are chefs on my server who price lower, they normally move more product. That is their decision.

If you are happy with your business plan then I say go for it. I would not be copying it though. I don't intent to be the wall mart of foods. I am fine dining, and my clients are more than happy to pay for it. If you were on Chilly I would send you some of my customers, those that don't want to pay top dollar for top #'s.

The revamp will probably be a major economic change to all servers, but until it happens I am not changing anything.

Good luck to you,

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Mayor_Woosh

Mon Nov 15, 2004 7:57 pm

#33

I think this thread has worn out its welcome.

Arguing on the internet is the like the special Olympics...no matter who wins your still a retard.

You think selling food at a lower price is the greatest thing since sliced bread (no food pun intended :smileywink

We all think your idea...while it has merit...is unrealistic in the current form of the game.

Btw I'm glad you like the Robin Hood comment !

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Numen

Tue Nov 16, 2004 1:19 am

#34

ExDarthStorm wrote:

you guys are a crack up, all you can see is how this effects your own pockets.

Glad you think loseing credits is funny.

Amandil Morier - Tempest - Master Chef

crypticknight

Tue Nov 16, 2004 1:51 am

#35

QUOTING

"I think it's great that you are charging so little for decent food. I'm a chef on Kettemoor. I have +25 to both my experimentation and assembly. I also have fs experimentation and piles of very good resources. I'm not worried at all about being undercut. As you stated earlier, there are a couple different types of chefs. I fall into the, "I want to attempt to make the best product possible" one. Sure my stuff may be "better", but I think that not only do we have different goals, we have entirely different buyers. There are always players out there looking to buy those uber foods. I know my food isn't worth over twice as much as what you make because it's marginally better. The thing is, those players out there with lots of credits think it is. But in the end, I hope you do sell lots and maybe open some eyes in the process. I suppose if I was concerned with making the maximum amount of credits possible I could feel threatened but that's never been my goal. My point of view is... if my food sits a bit on my vendor, it just gives me more time to play around with different product "

first person i agree 100% with a fellow kett chef. i try to make my stuff as best as possible i get a satisfaction out of seeing how good i can make it. we will deal with the economy when itfalls. no need to lower prices now when the economy has tons of money thats only hurting yourself. if the economy falls apart thats when you lower the prices. preparing for a loss of business is foolish. im actually thankful sometimes when my product doesnt move it allows me to work on other things such as pilot or jedi.providing foods/drinks to noobs is a great but old idea. when i first started i was lucky enough to get a buff when i hunted.

and as for saying everyone is out for money. its not true, although that is a perk of being chef. with the money i make i put back into my city, and buy overpriced resources just so i can keep going, then i take a cut and give my guildies foods and drinksks for 40k and under.

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NemKhis

Wed Nov 17, 2004 8:15 am

#36

I havent had a chef that long, and I dont even have the 12 pts of exp. yet.....however if you drop the prices too low too fast...it will affect the economy for the other chefs...

Lowering prices...yes...I dont charge as much as other chefs in the area do...but thier foods are also usually a couple points higher than mine as I dont have all my "uber" resources collected or the +25 suit.

But to undercut every chef on the server and come here and pointing out thats why you are doing it....hmm...that sounds like your trying to basically flame the other chefs for charging what they do...so you kind of got what you asked for there.

Charge what you want, let others charge what they want. The players buying the foods will dictate who succeeds and who dosnt....remember it isnt the merchant who controls the prices, its the consumers. Eventually prices will adjust one way or the other. I dont see any game change that will stop players from making lots of credits one way or another....so get what you think your food is worth...and if you sell...then be happy.

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Wengel

Wed Nov 17, 2004 10:36 am

#37

Don't worry, unless the guy is planning on crafting 24/7 his stock won't last long anyway. If an entire server starts to buy those products it's gonna sell out in no time.

And you can of course just make better products, since a lot of customers don't care about a few cents, but if the products is top quality.

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NemKhis

Wed Nov 17, 2004 12:41 pm

#38

Maybe if it didnt cost a chef 30 mil+ to get thier skill tapes (which would help players needing the food) they wouldnt have to charge as large of a profit margin?

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Gizmarke

Wed Nov 17, 2004 9:08 pm

#39

Glad to see another chef realizing this.

My prices are also fairly cheap since I price by resources used (8 CPU for regular resources, 10 CPU for creature resources, 20 CPU for milk)

So about the most expensive thing I sell would be Sweesonberry Rolls at 39,520 a crate (w/o additives).

Keep it up

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