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Thread: My Vasarian Brandy Factory run : +364 for 45 mins, 18 stack

Kansalis
Fri Feb 13, 2004 6:33 pm
#27

Well I finally settled on 12500cr per stack or 300k for a full crate. People are falling over eachother to get the stuff at that price.


Fortunately they take notice when I explain the differences between this and the old foods.... When they stop goin 'wow', 'kool' or get up from the floor, they hand over the cash



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ReeseHilsborne
Fri Feb 13, 2004 6:43 pm
#28

Give or take a few weeks when they start noticing thePvPers kicking bootythe word will get around and the prices wont seem so outrageous. Ive actually already sold about 40 stacks at 13K, Without a problem.



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ooBoBoo
Fri Feb 13, 2004 9:57 pm
#29

















Meplorium wrote:

Great Resse


The deal is 300k a crate is the same price per buff/time as before. So the pricing isn't different, just a pycological difference, which is why I am going to break my crates down to 5 which is the same as the old buff food. Just people need to be educated and the chefs need to not give in to people wanting the same thing for a lot less.





Yeah, I saw this coming. Instead of doubling your cost for a 100% markup or even 200%,many chefs will be charging based on length of buff. What isthe markupyou are looking for--300-400%. Not passing any valuecreated by the new system on to your customers, just hogging it to yourselves. Just greed here, plain and simple greed.


You greedy chefs won't see a credit from me, and I can afford those inflated prices. There are some decent chefs who will split the value provided by the new system with their customers so everyone benefits.


Oh, and break your crates down to 5, this way more storage is wasted in player inventories/banks/homesdue to your misguided psychological marketing ploy. Players love having their intelligence insulted.


In the long run you will lose.


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Hidden-Dragon
Fri Feb 13, 2004 10:35 pm
#30

Haven't make any. but do we have to use talusian berries and furits?
Meplorium
Sat Feb 14, 2004 2:02 am
#31

There are two forms of greed, seller greed and buyer greed. Seems someone is having a bit of the later.


The point I was making, and doing the math you will see this point is indeed a fact, a crate of 5 has the same buff time as the old crates of 25 and gives a better buff. When charging the same for the same buff as before, you'llnotice the pricing is actually in line. As for inventory space, well again a crate of 5 as the same value as a crate of old 25. Both have a volume of 1. Again no difference.


Next time actually read what is writen and get educated so you don't look like an idiot. The new food is amazing, however I do not see any reason to raise or lower prices, just adjust them to the same buff. BTW food is a lot harder to create now, so that added profit is well earned.


If after reading what was written you still feel that chefs should be selling cheaper for doing more work so you can reap the benefits of the new food rather than those who actually put forth all the work to make it, then do us the favor and do not buy any food. Please be at a disadvantage when compared to those who see value when it is placed in front of them.





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Meplorium
Sat Feb 14, 2004 2:03 am
#32






Hidden-Dragon wrote:
Haven't make any. but do we have to use talusian berries and furits?





No, any berry or fruit works. It is a bad label.



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Morganite
Sat Feb 14, 2004 2:29 am
#33


Add some power enhanced canape's (+530 focus/willpower, 13 minutes, 6 uses, 33 filling)



Educate your customes to do both, that gives them flexibility to use other of our new foods/drinks to get more stat's at once, and with +450 mind, and +1000 focus/wp...



My new deal is 1 normal brandy (+230), 2 normalcanape's (+680 f/w), 1 thundercloud, 1 synthsteak with my master doc, master combat medic. I was mind poisoned and mind bled on a raid tonight, and in the time between ticks, I had regenerated 90% of the mind i lost from the 4 ticks while curing everyone in my group before me.. Imagine a power brandy, and 2 power canape's (+450 brandy, +540 each canape) and i eagerly await rifleman trying to stop me...



My current price for non enhanced brandy's is only 10k more then I sold fishak for pre-patch, andthose flew off the shelves... (90k/crate of non enhanced brandy's)


Message Edited by Morganite on 02-14-2004 01:30 AM



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ooBoBoo
Sat Feb 14, 2004 3:29 am
#34




















Meplorium wrote:

There are two forms of greed, seller greed and buyer greed. Seems someone is having a bit of the later.


The point I was making, and doing the math you will see this point is indeed a fact, a crate of 5 has the same buff time as the old crates of 25 and gives a better buff. When charging the same for the same buff as before, you'llnotice the pricing is actually in line. As for inventory space, well again a crate of 5 as the same value as a crate of old 25. Both have a volume of 1. Again no difference.


Next time actually read what is writen and get educated so you don't look like an idiot. The new food is amazing, however I do not see any reason to raise or lower prices, just adjust them to the same buff. BTW food is a lot harder to create now, so that added profit is well earned.


If after reading what was written you still feel that chefs should be selling cheaper for doing more work so you can reap the benefits of the new food rather than those who actually put forth all the work to make it, then do us the favor and do not buy any food. Please be at a disadvantage when compared to those who see value when it is placed in front of them.







I read your post carefully. You are the greedy idiot.


Your looking to make a killing at the players expense. You will certainly make a far greater profit on your brandy than on Fishak by charging 300k on a case.What are your expenses? 75k at most? Probably not even that. If it is more, then please enlighten us.


The extended time is built into the recipe. Of course you can extend that time by experimenting as you will for power. But, brandy just has a longer buff life. How does this increase your cost? I know you need bio components and gemstone, but still, 300k for25 case of consumables or 60k for a 5 pack. No, you'll probably mark the 5 pack up to 75k, because, well, it's a smaller purchase. LOL.


No, I'll buy from chefs who are willing to spilt the value with their good customers and not hog it all to themselves. I would post a screen shot ofa purchase (including stats in the trade window) and prove that it will sell for less. However, something like that could be contrived andnot convincing.


No, this is a case of "seller greed."

Matatodos
Sat Feb 14, 2004 6:11 am
#35

Forget all the fancy formulas, it's all about supply and demand. There is a certain level of production that I feel comfortable with. If things are selling too fast, I raise prices. If things are selling too low, I lower prices. People will pay an arm and a leg for this stuff because it is so powerful. Low prices means sold out which means more work than I want to do.



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Rolassk
Sat Feb 14, 2004 6:13 am
#36




ooBoBoo wrote:

















I read your post carefully. You are the greedy idiot.


The extended time is built into the recipe. Of course you can extend that time by experimenting as you will for power. But, brandy just has a longer buff life. How does this increase your cost? I know you need bio components and gemstone (whoops just realized I am the idiot here)






I'm not even a chef, but for every crafting profession it's about supply and demand... If you can't keep up with the demand you either lot swap for more factory space or increase prices. If people are willing to pay 300k for a crate of Vasarian (and believe me they are) I suggest you pick up Chef


I mean dude your trolling in a crafting profession board, how lame is that?!!?



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Meplorium
Sat Feb 14, 2004 6:14 am
#37

Greed goes both ways. What can you do with the 4k 2 hour buff? How much can you make with that kind of enhancement. What kind of loot can you earn while buffed up. How many millions does it bring in. 4k for a 2 hour buff is very very reasonable. BTW the buff is better than the old stuff. That you get for free, so yeah, the customer makes out great on this as does the chef. I guess you are the one that only wants the full benefit while chefs get stuck with 3 times the work.


I am sure you will find some cheap stuff from someone that doesn't know any better. Customer greed leads them to ripcrafters off all the time.





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BHM
Sat Feb 14, 2004 6:19 am
#38

Kansalis could you please post the coords of your vendor?



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ooBoBoo
Sat Feb 14, 2004 6:41 am
#39













Rolassk wrote:




ooBoBoo wrote:

















I read your post carefully. You are the greedy idiot.


The extended time is built into the recipe. Of course you can extend that time by experimenting as you will for power. But, brandy just has a longer buff life. How does this increase your cost? I know you need bio components and gemstone (whoops just realized I am the idiot here)






I'm not even a chef, but for every crafting profession it's about supply and demand... If you can't keep up with the demand you either lot swap for more factory space or increase prices. If people are willing to pay 300k for a crate of Vasarian (and believe me they are) I suggest you pick up Chef


I mean dude your trolling in a crafting profession board, how lame is that?!!?






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Message Edited by ooBoBoo on 02-14-2004 08:56 AM

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