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Thread: My Vasarian Brandy Factory run : +364 for 45 mins, 18 stack

ooBoBoo
Sat Feb 14, 2004 7:24 am
#40






Meplorium wrote:

Greed goes both ways. What can you do with the 4k 2 hour buff? How much can you make with that kind of enhancement. What kind of loot can you earn while buffed up. How many millions does it bring in. 4k for a 2 hour buff is very very reasonable. BTW the buff is better than the old stuff. That you get for free, so yeah, the customer makes out great on this as does the chef. I guess you are the one that only wants the full benefit while chefs get stuck with 3 times the work.


I am sure you will find some cheap stuff from someone that doesn't know any better. Customer greed leads them to ripcrafters off all the time.







OK Meparch, we'll see how this plays out. Maybe you're right. I think there is going to be a rush on this stuff by the big spenders and then it will quite down. Then prices come down. If you can continue to get 300k, then more power to you.


Sorry I came on so strong.

Kansalis
Sat Feb 14, 2004 8:02 am
#41






BHM wrote:
Kansalis could you please post the coords of your vendor?







My bartender is in the ShadowStone Cantina on Dantooine. There are only singles on it for now as most of my production time is taken on the pre-orders I've received (over 40 crates last time I checked )




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BHM
Sat Feb 14, 2004 9:11 am
#42

Well I'm heading to your vendor right now





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BHM
Sat Feb 14, 2004 9:17 am
#43

Kansalis your vendor is empty... are you restocking it by any chance?



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Morganite
Sat Feb 14, 2004 11:01 am
#44


Don't compare it to just fishak, this stuff does more, compare prices of the brandy to the total price of what you had to buy before to get a similar buff. Of course, we will have to PRETEND you could take my 3 examples of pre-patch food's/drinks at the same time, which anyone who used food knows you could not...



1 crate of fishak.. Avg. +600 mind, duration, 10 minutes, 6/stack (all about average numbers) sold for 80k on my server, let's break that down..


Each stack was 1 hour of a +600 mind buff, giving you 25 hours of a +600 mind buff. Of course, this didnt affect your regeneration rates.


1 crate of corellian fried ice cream. 5 uses, +400 focus, 8 minute duration. Each bundle was 40 minutes of a focus buff, for a total buffing time of around 18 and a half hoursfor a cost of 75k.


1 Crate of vercuppti : 4 uses, +400 willpower, 12 minutes. 48 minutes of a willpower buff per stack sold for 75k on my server without arguement for a total of 20 hours of willpower being buffed.


that adds up to 230k to purchase 3 crates to get a full mind stat buff for at least 18 hours..



The new brandy(enhanced version in large glasses now mind you)


+455 to mind/focus/willpower,8 uses per large glass, for 40 minutes. that comes out to123 HOURS of buff to mind/focus/willpower if you take each charge 1 at a time, or 61 hours of +910 to focus/willpower/mind if you doubled your doses..



Previously, your couldnt come close to the current buffing levels even if you could have takenthe 2 foods and 1 drink all at the same time, and people paid 230k on my server for not being able toget all 3 stat's at once... 350k to get more overall duration, and an overall better buff doesnt seem out of line... You are gettingthe ability to buff all 3 mind stat's at once, and 6x the duration, for 50% more then people previously paid to not be able to buff all 3 stat's at once..


Now I am no mathmetician, but to just equal the current duration with pre-patch foods, you would have to double up your old order for a cost of 460k. (and still not have the same stat boost at any given time as the current stuff mind you) Yet you have the audacity to say we are being greedy? We are charging a lower rate/buff unitthen we did with pre-patch food's/drink for a higher overall buff???


We wont even get into the numbers about how much money one could earn doing 4k missions on a starter planet in during the time you are buffed with these mind stat's just doing plain PvE, which most people usually have higher heath/action main pools, and substat's then the PvP crowd, but suffice to say you could EASILY earn the 350k going rate my examples are going to be sold for with buff time left over.




Sounds like someone just cant afford the top end stuff, and is pissed about it...




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Kansalis
Sat Feb 14, 2004 11:31 am
#45






BHM wrote:

Kansalis your vendor is empty... are you restocking it by any chance?






Oops, sorry about that... I'll be logging in sometime in the next hour to restock.


This probably isn't the best place to be discussing this though




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ooBoBoo
Sat Feb 14, 2004 12:20 pm
#46







Dyrty wrote:

GREED: If you think that the prices listed here are greedy I'm asking you this. Have you ever made Vasarian Brandy? Have you ever factory run anything for that matter? Always, whether I'm selling resources or selling these new products, someone throws the "It only cost you 0.2 per to mine it." You know what I think that is abull$hit formula. Whoever did the math on what it cost someone to mine per unit is missing a BIG part of the whole process. Let's say that it's accurate. Fine it cost me 0.2 per to mine it out of my harvestor.


However what if it's not on a 100% source???


What if the resource is on X planet that cost me 3k credits everytime I have to go check the machine???


How about the fact that it may take me a couple of HOURS real time, to pay maintenance check machines and empty harvestor hoppers?!?!?!


So while you are having fun playing run shoot'em with your elite combat class toon. Somewhere a crafter is spendingtedious HOURS, doing unsocial work so that you can be more UBER.


You get what you pay for!







Spare me. I'm a doctor. I know about crafting, resources, overhead, sub-components, blah, blah. Good buff packs cost a fortune to make and take tons of time to craft. Good avian meat alone goes for 80-100 cpu. Other resouces cost a forune too if you want to make a ggod buff pack and not sell crap.


When I sold buffs, I don't anymore, I charged a resonable 6k for my buffs. That gave me a decent profit considering my costs (including shuttle fares) and tons of time running around finding good resources orfinding rangers to farm for me. Many doctors still charge 6k, though I have seen a few charge up to 10k. That's rare.


I sick of this topic. All I'll say now is charge and get the 300k or more per crate. Players will run to become chefs/bio-engineers in droves when they see your profits. Then suddenly, you will be selling for, if you are lucky, 75-100k a crate (an even I'll say that's underpriced), since the market will be satutrated.


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Message Edited by ooBoBoo on 02-14-2004 02:21 PM

JoeMenthol
Sat Feb 14, 2004 12:23 pm
#47






Morganite wrote:


. Imagine a power brandy, and 2 power canape's (+450 brandy, +540 each canape) and i eagerly await rifleman trying to stop me...






I'd either pick another target or...


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Quad7500
Sat Feb 14, 2004 12:44 pm
#48

Wow. We went from talking about good stat food/drink. To who has bigger balls? What's happeing to the Chef forums?? Someone help us!!!!



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ooBoBoo
Sat Feb 14, 2004 12:44 pm
#49









Morganite wrote:



. . .


Sounds like someone just cant afford the top end stuff, and is pissed about it...






I can easily afford your prices. I'm worth 50+ million and I'm not bragging because I know there are many more people with more than I have.


This new food publish is getting out of hand. There is someone starting a thread on food price fixing on a certain server.The top price of 300k jumped to 350k in less than 12 hours on this form. What will it be tomorrow and next week?


Sure, the "cost is no object" buyer will love you. The lower level players with 150k in the bank are going to hate you.Charge what you will, it is your choice. We'll see where this leads.


Anyway, enough of this. I'm sure this forum will be happy to be rid of me.



Message Edited by ooBoBoo on 02-14-2004 02:49 PM

eastmaster
Sat Feb 14, 2004 3:23 pm
#50






Kansalis wrote:


I just posted this on the Eclipse forum to get some feedback on pricing from the consumers :



I'm starting a factory run of Vasarian Brandy tomorrow with the following stats :


+364 Mind, Focus & Willpower

45 minutes duration (exactly )

49% filling, so you can drink 2 at a time

18 per stack


The current digestion time is 45 minutes, so you can keep a +728 buff to all mind stats with no downtime (maybe a little due to timings, but not a lot). This doesn't touch your food bar at all, so you will be free to further boost mind with something like Vagnerain Canape, or use a different skill or stat buff altogether.


Bearing in mind I have used very high quality materials, a medium BE food additive, acask & a total of 6 factory runs to make them..... What would you consumers pay for something with these stats?


As this stuff is obviously very new, I have no idea what to set the price at.



I thought I'd also come to the Chef community to ask for your opinions too







yah just to verify i made a similar stat brandy just now....and politely informed my guild that they would be sucking **edit** for crack soon when i start mass producing this stuff.


i am gonna be so friggin rich

ReeseHilsborne
Sat Feb 14, 2004 3:53 pm
#51

I sense someone here is a lil upset that he couldnt handle the yucky grind to master chef. So he comes here to whine, either way I couldnt care less im making tons of cash and geting very happy /tells from my customers, Thats all that matters to me. If you dont want the food then dont get it there will be plenty more that will take your place.



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dimmu-borgir
Sat Feb 14, 2004 4:29 pm
#52


could probably get 200-300k for that on bloodfin...


i for one am going to try to get the price for this stuff down... often see it going for 250k... thats just insane.

Message Edited by dimmu-borgir on 02-14-2004 03:31 PM



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