Carbineer Archive

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Matchew wrote:

For some reason, you cant really see other people's points, and only want to see your's. I know what im talking about. I wouldnt be the most sought after Carbineer on Wanderhome for nothing.

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Matchew wrote:
Seriously, just come on over to Wanderhome, ill hook you up with 80% armor, and the carbines you need, and i will show you. I know you may not want to level, but your own ego's alone will probably make you want to come over and prove me wrong. So we will see if you accept.

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Matchew wrote:
Seriously, just come on over to Wanderhome, ill hook you up with 80% armor, and the carbines you need, and i will show you. I know you may not want to level, but your own ego's alone will probably make you want to come over and prove me wrong. So we will see if you accept.

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80% Armor....geesh that stuff is for kids....even my 82-83% armor is poor on Chilastra.....

Like I said, the numbers don't lie....you can give opinions all you want, but actually weapons from Wanderhome were used in the numbers along with the actual resources available on Wanderhome....coming there for testing is quite pointless when we have ALL THE FACTS.

Take the facts and do with them what you will.....they are here for all to use or not, doesn't make me any difference.

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Matchew wrote:


Just had a 20 minute duel with a pikeman yesterday, i used both guns for half the fight. He was wearing a psg, and i was hitting him for 150-200 through armor with the dxr6, and 150-300 through armor with the laser carbine.

Laser carbine had a damage of 170-420, as opposed to the dxr6, which is around 206-296. They both had the same damage slice. As you can see, even with its higher min damage, the laser was still doing more damage, just because of its crafted superiorness (is that even a word?).

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With 85% Comp, Ranged Mitigation 3 and WITHOUT PSG, a Wanderhome DXR6 does63.6 DPS speed capped with CripplingShot, whereas a Laser in the same situation does77.3 DPS.

With 85% Comp, Ranged Mitigation 3 and40% Energy PSG, a Wanderhome DXR6 does63.6 DPS speed capped with CripplingShot, whereas a Laser in the same situation does46.4 DPS.

With 85% Comp, WITHOUT Ranged Mitigation 3 and WITHOUT PSG, a Wanderhome DXR6 does70.6 DPS speed capped with CripplingShot, whereas a Laser in the same situation does103.8 DPS.

With 85% Comp, WITHOUT Ranged Mitigation 3 and40% EnergyPSG, a Wanderhome DXR6 does70.6 DPS speed capped with CripplingShot, whereas a Laser in the same situation does62.3 DPS.

So basically if that Pikeman had a PSG, then your DXR6 would do more DPS.....but of course your Laser is nowhere near made with basic components, but the DXR6 is....that is a FACT from the Min/Max Damage you listed vs. Novamarine's guns.

The Apples vs. Oranges thing you are pushing is what I don't want the Carbineer Community mislead by.

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Matchew wrote:
Seriously, just come on over to Wanderhome, ill hook you up with 80% armor, and the carbines you need, and i will show you. I know you may not want to level, but your own ego's alone will probably make you want to come over and prove me wrong. So we will see if you accept.

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It's not a question of ego - I'm just trying to mathematically understand how what you're saying is possible. I'm glad you tested it out against a Pikeman though - the fact that you're challenging what we are saying is a good thing.I urge you to try it againsta Master Carbineer, Master Rifleman or Master Pistoleer, though.

Simply have them equip their armor and a PSG.. they can peace if you want.. and compare the damage of a base dxr6 and a base Laser Carbine. Go buytwo basic non-slicedweapons if need be. It's very important that both weapons are the "best" base they can be.

Try it out. I guarantee you may be surprised, heh. I know I was.. I was like: "wth.. that's impossible, the dxr6 sucks! And then I looked into thedamageNOTon my combat log BUT on the one of my opponent. This is veryimportant as well.

That day, I contacted the very best smith on our server and got myself a dxr6 made.

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Matchew wrote:

Figured you wouldnt accept, so i rest my case.

did you also take in effect the percentage of people that dont wear psg's? i guarantee its a hell of alot higher than you think it is.

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I would love for you to explain whyyou are comparing an obviously Krayt, Stocked Laser Carbine vs. a non-Krayt and non-Stocked DXR6 and how that is fair? What amongst all of this would give me or anybody else any reason to come to you on Wanderhome?

Of course there may be fewer people wearing PSG's on Wanderhome and that is fine, but I RAN THE CALCULATIONS FOR THAT SCENARIO. Try to think of the bigger picture for all people on all servers....

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Matchew wrote:

This is exactly why i said compare wanderhome weapons. my 420 max laser is NON-KRAYTED, its a base, just like the dxr6. And you said get a dxr6 and laser that are comparable in damage. Thats the thing....they arent comparable. Lasers are much higher in damage, and the min on both isnt very far apart. Just the fact the laser is medium ap skyrockets it above the dxr6.

Now i may be wrong, the way you calculate mitigation is you take the difference between the min and max damage, multiply that times .6, then subtract that answer from the current max damage, and thats what it is on a mitigated opponent?

If thats the case....296-206=90, 90*.6=54, 296-54=242, therefore 206-242 on a mitigated opponent

laser....420-170=250, 250*.6= 150, 420-150=270, therefore 176-270, so a possibility for a lower damage, but also a higher.

With the medium ap, it would make the damage on the gun go to 220-337, because of the added 25%. now again, i may be wrong, so please correct me.

Now yes, if they are wearing a psg, it would make the dxr6 better, but only minimally. This would make the laser carbine better in 3 of the 4 sitations you mentioned earlier. Not all guns are crafted equally, so im just showing you wanderhome guns.

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