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And some more of the log file.....

Note the final listed attack I received was the standard attack when the queue ran out. Also notice the damage listed is MOST CERTAINLY WRONG because the PSG I have does not have one single stat higher than my armor so it could not possibly stop more damage......like we keep saying the damage reported in the Combat Log is wrong on ScatterShot1/2.

And on that last attack, yes with the PSG and armor I was only receiving single digit damage as the Combat Log reports correctly for the standard attack

In case you want more "wrong" Combat Log.....

This shows a varying number of hits from ScatterShot2, which I don't believe as I don't ever see it hit more than 3 pieces of armor. At this point I have to assume the duplicates are wrong.....

[Combat] 10:36:13 Ibac Feania uses Scatter Blast on you for 1 points of damage!
[Combat] 10:36:13 Your DMAX(v4) Composite Armor Pants-DCORP armor prevented 125 points of damage.
[Combat] 10:36:13 Your DMAX(v4) Composite Armor Boots-DCORP armor prevented 1 points of damage.
[Combat] 10:36:14 That target is out of range.
[Combat] 10:36:14 Ibac Feania uses Scatter Blast on you for 1 points of damage!
[Combat] 10:36:14 Your DMAX(v4) Composite Armor Boots-DCORP armor prevented 94 points of damage.
[Combat] 10:36:14 You have been wounded for 1 points.
[Combat] 10:36:14 You have taken 1 in battle fatigue.
[Combat] 10:36:14 You have taken 1 in battle fatigue.
[Combat] 10:36:14 You have taken 1 in battle fatigue.
[Combat] 10:36:14 Your DMAX(v4) Composite Armor Pants-DCORP armor prevented 93 points of damage.
[Combat] 10:36:14 You have taken 1 in battle fatigue.
[Combat] 10:36:14 You have taken 1 in battle fatigue.
[Combat] 10:36:14 You have been wounded for 1 points.
[Combat] 10:36:14 You have taken 1 in battle fatigue.
[Combat] 10:36:14 Your DMAX(v4) Composite Armor Pants-DCORP armor prevented 1 points of damage.
[Combat] 10:36:16 That target is out of range.
[Combat] 10:36:16 Ibac Feania uses Scatter Blast on you for 1 points of damage, but you counterattack!
[Combat] 10:36:16 Your DMAX(v4) Composite Armor Helmet-DCORP armor prevented 27 points of damage.
[Combat] 10:36:16 Your DMAX(v4) Composite Armor Pants-DCORP armor prevented 27 points of damage.
[Combat] 10:36:16 You have been wounded for 1 points.
[Combat] 10:36:16 You have taken 1 in battle fatigue.
[Combat] 10:36:16 You have been wounded for 1 points.
[Combat] 10:36:16 You have taken 1 in battle fatigue.
[Combat] 10:36:16 You have been wounded for 1 points.
[Combat] 10:36:16 You have taken 1 in battle fatigue.
[Combat] 10:36:16 Your DMAX(v4) Composite Armor Gloves-DCORP armor prevented 27 points of damage.
[Combat] 10:36:16 You have taken 1 in battle fatigue.
[Combat] 10:36:16 You have taken 1 in battle fatigue.
[Combat] 10:36:16 You have taken 1 in battle fatigue.
[Combat] 10:36:16 Your DMAX(v4) Composite Armor Gloves-DCORP armor prevented 27 points of damage.
[Combat] 10:36:16 You have been wounded for 1 points.
[Combat] 10:36:16 You have taken 1 in battle fatigue.
[Combat] 10:36:16 You have taken 1 in battle fatigue.
[Combat] 10:36:16 You have taken 1 in battle fatigue.
[Combat] 10:36:16 Your DMAX(v4) Composite Armor Pants-DCORP armor prevented 27 points of damage.
[Combat] 10:36:16 You have been wounded for 1 points.
[Combat] 10:36:16 You have taken 1 in battle fatigue.
[Combat] 10:36:16 You have taken 1 in battle fatigue.
[Combat] 10:36:16 You have taken 1 in battle fatigue.
[Combat] 10:36:17 Ibac Feania uses Scatter Blast on you for 1 points of damage!
[Combat] 10:36:17 Your DMAX(v4) Composite Armor Pants-DCORP armor prevented 42 points of damage.
[Combat] 10:36:17 Your DMAX(v4) Composite Armor Pants-DCORP armor prevented 42 points of damage.
[Combat] 10:36:17 Your DMAX(v4) Composite Armor Right Bicep-DCORP armor prevented 45 points of damage.
[Combat] 10:36:17 Your DMAX(v4) Composite Armor Left Bicep-DCORP armor prevented 46 points of damage.
[Combat] 10:36:17 You have been wounded for 1 points.
[Combat] 10:36:17 You have taken 1 in battle fatigue.
[Combat] 10:36:17 You have been wounded for 1 points.
[Combat] 10:36:17 You have taken 1 in battle fatigue.
[Combat] 10:36:17 You have been wounded for 1 points.
[Combat] 10:36:17 You have taken 1 in battle fatigue.
[Combat] 10:36:17 Your DMAX(v4) Composite Armor Left Bracer-DCORP armor prevented 46 points of damage.
[Combat] 10:36:17 Your DMAX(v4) Composite Armor Left Bracer-DCORP armor prevented 1 points of damage.
[Combat] 10:36:18 That target is out of range.
[Combat] 10:36:19 Ibac Feania uses Scatter Blast on you for 1 points of damage!
[Combat] 10:36:19 Your DMAX(v4) Composite Armor Chest Plate-DCORP armor prevented 25 points of damage.
[Combat] 10:36:19 Your DMAX(v4) Composite Armor Helmet-DCORP armor prevented 25 points of damage.
[Combat] 10:36:19 Your DMAX(v4) Composite Armor Boots-DCORP armor prevented 26 points of damage.
[Combat] 10:36:19 You have taken 1 in battle fatigue.
[Combat] 10:36:19 You have been wounded for 1 points.
[Combat] 10:36:19 You have taken 1 in battle fatigue.
[Combat] 10:36:19 You have taken 1 in battle fatigue.
[Combat] 10:36:19 Your DMAX(v4) Composite Armor Chest Plate-DCORP armor prevented 25 points of damage.
[Combat] 10:36:19 You have been wounded for 1 points.
[Combat] 10:36:19 You have taken 1 in battle fatigue.
[Combat] 10:36:19 You have taken 1 in battle fatigue.
[Combat] 10:36:19 You have been wounded for 1 points.
[Combat] 10:36:19 You have taken 1 in battle fatigue.
[Combat] 10:36:19 Your DMAX(v4) Composite Armor Right Bicep-DCORP armor prevented 26 points of damage.
[Combat] 10:36:19 Your DMAX(v4) Composite Armor Right Bracer-DCORP armor prevented 1 points of damage.
[Combat] 10:36:20 That target is out of range.
[Combat] 10:36:20 Ibac Feania uses Scatter Blast on you for 1 points of damage!
[Combat] 10:36:20 Your DMAX(v4) Composite Armor Pants-DCORP armor prevented 38 points of damage.
[Combat] 10:36:20 Your DMAX(v4) Composite Armor Right Bicep-DCORP armor prevented 39 points of damage.
[Combat] 10:36:20 Your DMAX(v4) Composite Armor Helmet-DCORP armor prevented 38 points of damage.
[Combat] 10:36:20 You have been wounded for 1 points.
[Combat] 10:36:20 You have taken 1 in battle fatigue.
[Combat] 10:36:20 You have taken 1 in battle fatigue.
[Combat] 10:36:20 You have been wounded for 1 points.
[Combat] 10:36:20 You have taken 1 in battle fatigue.
[Combat] 10:36:20 Your DMAX(v4) Composite Armor Gloves-DCORP armor prevented 38 points of damage.
[Combat] 10:36:20 Your DMAX(v4) Composite Armor Right Bracer-DCORP armor prevented 1 points of damage.
[Combat] 10:36:22 That target is out of range.
[Combat] 10:36:22 Ibac Feania uses Scatter Blast on you for 1 points of damage!
[Combat] 10:36:22 Your DMAX(v4) Composite Armor Left Bracer-DCORP armor prevented 89 points of damage.
[Combat] 10:36:22 Your DMAX(v4) Composite Armor Chest Plate-DCORP armor prevented 80 points of damage.
[Combat] 10:36:22 You have taken 1 in battle fatigue.
[Combat] 10:36:22 You have taken 1 in battle fatigue.
[Combat] 10:36:22 You have been wounded for 1 points.
[Combat] 10:36:22 You have taken 1 in battle fatigue.
[Combat] 10:36:22 Your DMAX(v4) Composite Armor Left Bicep-DCORP armor prevented 90 points of damage.
[Combat] 10:36:22 You have been wounded for 1 points.
[Combat] 10:36:22 You have taken 1 in battle fatigue.
[Combat] 10:36:22 You have been wounded for 1 points.
[Combat] 10:36:22 You have taken 1 in battle fatigue.
[Combat] 10:36:22 You have been wounded for 1 points.
[Combat] 10:36:22 You have taken 1 in battle fatigue.
[Combat] 10:36:22 Your DMAX(v4) Composite Armor Chest Plate-DCORP armor prevented 80 points of damage.
[Combat] 10:36:22 Your DMAX(v4) Composite Armor Chest Plate-DCORP armor prevented 1 points of damage.
[Combat] 10:36:23 That target is out of range.

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TAfirehawk wrote:

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jfang wrote:

Well, my logic in why there are 4 hits is:

1) The combat log shows a hit for 1 damage

2) The combat log shows 3 armor damage preventions

3) The armor preventions are more than 1 damage

4) Since it makes no sense for armor to prevent 50 out of 1 damage, nor does it make sense for one chest plate to prevent 50 damage twice for one hit to the chest, each of those armor preventions is a separate hit

So it total, you get one logged hit for 1 damage, and 3 unlogged hits for unknown damage, or 4 hits total.

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Wow....you need to really think about what you are saying here.....that is NOT how the Combat Log works....

ScatterShot damage is reported wrong thus the 1 damage. All attacks and all defenses get listed seperately (NOT seperate hits).... With your logic the following Combat Log of my testing would mean ScatterShot2 "hits" me 7 times.....yeah right....

Also note I think the log duplicates some defense lines when writing to the file or server sync issues....

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TA, just a thought. If your PSG is absorbing damage first, is that not implying that the armor you are wearing is then blocking the percentage of the remainder, resulting in a lower amount blocked?

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TAfirehawk wrote:

Not to argue, but please go in-game and look at STANDARD ATTACK or other SPECIALS......

I showed one in the log part I posted to prove this point. Each line of the Combat Log is not YOU taking a seperate hit..... The initial hit is the ONLY hit even with ScatterShot2 and the rest is your defenses.....

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Rorenikibi wrote:

TA, just a thought. If your PSG is absorbing damage first, is that not implying that the armor you are wearing is then blocking the percentage of the remainder, resulting in a lower amount blocked?

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Very true and I am not sure the order of the defense, but normally the armor is first then PSG/Food.

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jfang wrote:

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TAfirehawk wrote:

Not to argue, but please go in-game and look at STANDARD ATTACK or other SPECIALS......

I showed one in the log part I posted to prove this point. Each line of the Combat Log is not YOU taking a seperate hit..... The initial hit is the ONLY hit even with ScatterShot2 and the rest is your defenses.....

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I understand that, and I agree with that. But my point is it makes no sense for a *single* piece of armor to defend against a *single* hit multiple times. For example, in your logs:

[Combat] 11:27:23 Ibac Feania uses Scatter Blast on you for 1 points of damage!
[Combat] 11:27:23 Your Imperial Test Prototype PSG 64% / 30% 2743 shield prevented 74 points of damage.
[Combat] 11:27:23 Your DMAX(v4) Composite Armor Left Bracer-DCORP armor prevented 38 points of damage.
[Combat] 11:27:23 Your Imperial Test Prototype PSG 64% / 30% 2743 shield prevented 74 points of damage.
[Combat] 11:27:23 Your DMAX(v4) Composite Armor Helmet-DCORP armor prevented 37 points of damage.
[Combat] 11:27:23 You have taken 1 in battle fatigue.
[Combat] 11:27:23 Your Imperial Test Prototype PSG 64% / 30% 2743 shield prevented 74 points of damage.
[Combat] 11:27:23 Your DMAX(v4) Composite Armor Chest Plate-DCORP armor prevented 37 points of damage.
[Combat] 11:27:23 Your DMAX(v4) Composite Armor Chest Plate-DCORP armor prevented 1 points of damage.

I count 4 times your composite armor took effect. In particular, I see the chest plate took effect twice, which would make no sense for a single hit. (Is there any other single hit attack whichhas a single piece of armor take effect twice?)Furthermore, I also see the PSG took effect three times (the fourth, the initial single point of damage, was already prevented by your armor), further suggestion there were 3 distinct hitsafter the initial hit.

I wouldask "if scatter shot is really combined into a single hit, why would a single piece of armor take effect twice"? It is possible the logs are just bugged, and the initial hit should be for 200 damage not 1. However, I would suggest it is plausible (and probable)that the initial hit and three blocks of damage from scatter hit are actually being treated as separate hits by the system (for the reasons I mentioned previously), the evidence being the existence of the 4 damage prevention statements (even if the amount of damage prevented listed in the logs is suspect).

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ScatterShot2 does THREE hits.......and we know the Combat Log is borked for ScatterShot2 but even if it was working the Chest Plate could take all 3 hits

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TAfirehawk wrote:

ScatterShot2 does THREE hits.......and we know the Combat Log is borked for ScatterShot2 but even if it was working the Chest Plate could take all 3 hits

All I ask is that you go look at your Combat Log when NOT using ScatterShot2 along with the damage taken and see if you change your theory.

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So how do you explain the extra "[Combat] 11:27:23 Your DMAX(v4) Composite Armor Chest Plate-DCORP armor prevented 1 points of damage." (the 4th reduction)?

As I said, I think the Combat Log is bugged on the number of defenses for ScatterShot2.....potentially making it deal LESS DAMAGE than it should.

And yes all you NERF HERDERS out there I have proof of this ScatterShot2 bug that means the Devs should INCREASE the resultant damage. Boy won't this shock all those liar rumor starter types that screamed ScatterShot2 was over-powered.....

Or the Combat Log is really borked.....not sure but if we believe the Log then ScatterShot2 has an8X Damage Modifier and will makefrom 1-6 different hits, but the grand total not exceeding 8X. I get this from the multiple defense stops by my armor.

But the more likely explaination is the Combat Log is borked and the Damage Modifier is NOT 8X and NOT hitting more than 3 times.

Only a Dev can answer this.....

The damage is not allways 33/33/33. It can be 33/33/33, or any combination of 67/33/0 (2 hits to one pool, one hit to another, and no hits to the 3rd), or any combination of 100/0/0 (all 3 hits to one pool, and none to the others). This info was confirmed months ago, and is even in the description of the attack.

Also, I would never use the combat log to try and calculate damage for this attack, as it is allready known that the combat spam for the initial attack is borked, thus implying to me that all related calculations relating to this attack are as well.