Carbineer Archive
Thread: carabineer and the PvP struggles
zanzanEXPO wrote:
do you really think i will just stand and let the tkm beat me?hell no im going to kit, make him kneel, KD his butt till i kill him.
also intimidate+stun=85% less damage, synsteak[only food i ever eat anyway]+psg+stun armor+range mit3=good bye jawa ion
poster above:
i did 1.2k with scatter hit on a KD target, thats BEFORE armor.
Message Edited by zanzanEXPO on 08-25-2004 05:23 PM
edit 2:KD adds 50% more damage.
i guess you have to get your facts right
Message Edited by zanzanEXPO on 08-25-2004 05:27 PM
Edit: Originally had 500 damage ion, but turns out that with AP the laser carb and ion rifle do the same damage (300). Just following my own advice.
Message Edited by InfluenzaSWTA on 08-25-2004 05:36 PM
Jedi1006 wrote:
ok i started this post and im gonna finish it with this statement:
Carbineer or Carabineer...w/e....is not that great a pvp profession whether u know ur specials or have uber weaps....any smart pvp will have 70-80% kinetic or energy armor with 64% even higher if sliced other resists and maybe stun protection but that doesnt matter and they will have brandy and w/e else they decide to take. The simple truth is u have a chance in pvp but not a good one. The no mind damage really hurts and with such great armor these days anybody with mind attacks or stun weaps will fry a carbineer.There is no way unless u get lucky u can beat sumbody that deals mind damage, you wont get enough shots in and they arnt powerful enough unless the other person keeps missing u with headshot 3 or headhit 1 or eyshot w/e.Im sorry to break it all to you but every single carbineer ive met has said it sux and they are dropping it. You may think ur great and have beaten a tka master......but he proble sux cuz not once have i lost to a carabineer and im tka/rifleman. Now you all may prefer to disagree and say what u want to say about how u have beat this and that but ill give u this: CarAbineer is great in PvE but doesnt cut it in pvp. period. thx all and godspeed
pvp rating:1708
euro chim
Nearly everyone in this post is saying that carbineer is not bad in PVP except for you. I think we all know this clown is never going to accept this.
MehoKaric wrote:
www.dictionary.com wrote:
car·bi·neer - Pronunciation Key (kärb-nîr)
n.
Variant of carabineer.
www.dictionary.com ALSO wrote:
car·a·bi·neer also car·a·bi·nier - Pronunciation Key (kr-b-nîr) or car·bi·neer (kärb-)
n.
A soldier armed with a carbine.
Fancy that.
do you think you can fancy that the freaking name of the profession in the game, in the forum, and technically even on dictionary.com is carbineer and not carabineer. If you looked at the history the reason why the word carabineer exists is from the french word carbinier, a soldier with a carabine. Now since we who speak english call it a carbine, it is a carbineer and you seem to have forgotten to post this definition from the same page on dictionary.com:
carbineer
\Car`bi*neer"\, n. [F. carabinier.] (Mil.) A soldier armed with a carbine.
I know you probably try the whole withholding information on most people to prove them wrong but learn that it doesnt always work.
Message Edited by Therascalking3 on 08-26-2004 07:36 AM
Jedi1006 wrote:
ok i started this post and im gonna finish it with this statement:
Carbineer or Carabineer...w/e....is not that great a pvp profession whether u know ur specials or have uber weaps....any smart pvp will have 70-80% kinetic or energy armor with 64% even higher if sliced other resists and maybe stun protection but that doesnt matter and they will have brandy and w/e else they decide to take. The simple truth is u have a chance in pvp but not a good one. The no mind damage really hurts and with such great armor these days anybody with mind attacks or stun weaps will fry a carbineer.There is no way unless u get lucky u can beat sumbody that deals mind damage, you wont get enough shots in and they arnt powerful enough unless the other person keeps missing u with headshot 3 or headhit 1 or eyshot w/e.Im sorry to break it all to you but every single carbineer ive met has said it sux and they are dropping it. You may think ur great and have beaten a tka master......but he proble sux cuz not once have i lost to a carabineer and im tka/rifleman. Now you all may prefer to disagree and say what u want to say about how u have beat this and that but ill give u this: CarAbineer is great in PvE but doesnt cut it in pvp. period. thx all and godspeed
pvp rating:1708
euro chim
My current build is Master Bounty Hunter and Master Carbineer and novice brawler. While I do think that armour is overpowered and the prevailance of mind attacking classes are all over the battlefield, I continue to be successfull against these people who think that mind hits are the only way to excell at PVP. With my current build I have 4 ranged knockdown attacks along with 4 ranged posture change attacks, these posture controlling shots along with the state effect shots I use seems to do rather well. A blind/dizzy/stun on a rifleman is just a prelude to a posture change and a salvo of high powered shots. While it does take me longer to deal enough damage to even get close to a riflemans damage, this is easily accompished while the rifleman is on his back. I have few or any problems defeating defense stackers, with 207 carbine accuracy, I just dont miss. The defenses of carbineer are not fantastic, but I have found out that the constant application of states does improve my ability to survive. Riflemen have loads of trouble hitting me when blind and stunned. I do notice the ability of a character with Hi powered medicines, stim-c's or better do negate most of my damage, so often I have to empty out a few ham bars multiple times.
Currenty I have a 1650 pvp rating. I wear a stunlayer comp helmet and chest plate. I eat Rifle/Tka's for lunch, as that template is just weak against what I can throw against it, states and posture changes.
Best regards,
Exanip
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=114184
zanzanEXPO wrote:
to the guy that said that 1.2k hits arent possible, i did two in a row today on a rebel, one of them did a full mind hit
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=114184
thats before armour and synsteak etc..still a nice shot
but after all the various reductions the damage will be much, muchless
i seriously like carbineer, sure its not a dueling profession but in group pvp we shine.
i was pvping with my guild, we attacked a city and a groupie[fencer] went far away from us, i went there to help him because he had two people beating him up it was just amazing.
fullautoarea2 3 times, all 2 of them get blind/stun/dizzy then 2 chargeshot2..2 of them are now KD+dizzy and flopping, then i started to kill them and they died
Message Edited by zanzanEXPO on 08-26-2004 04:37 PM