Carbineer Archive

rifleman get 160 at master i think... -50 pb range mod with a jawa and you still have +110... plenty for killing people at 0 meters

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Rarool wrote:

Run the freak up to the rifleman and pawn them already... geesh.

RIFLEMAN HAVE NO ACCURACY UNDER 8 METERS...

When your a carbineer and your fighting a rifleman... just delude yourself into believing your a TKM you'll be fine.

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Therascalking3 wrote:

stop calling it carabineer you morons

its freaking CARBineer

and it doesnt suck at everything. I do perfectly well with my template in pvp and pve and i waste some of my skills on SL so chill.

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www.dictionary.com wrote:

car·bi·neer - Pronunciation Key (kärb-nîr)
n.

Variant of carabineer.

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www.dictionary.com ALSO wrote:

car·a·bi·neer also car·a·bi·nier - Pronunciation Key (kr-b-nîr) or car·bi·neer (kärb-)
n.

A soldier armed with a carbine.

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Fancy that.

wow it's getting constructive here

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YamadaMan wrote:
I do up to 700 PvP damage / second with my dxr6 against melee fighters, say you have a nice 4k HAM, get down once, and it'll take what, 6 or 7 shots, let's be large and say 10 shots to take a Health bar down. if the guy's armored, I use carbines to knock him down (scr3w def vs KD mods) then switch to geoblaster to take him down with ease.

hey ! it's called "tactics" it's not cause you don't have a direct "I win" button that the profession sux.

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I call B.S.

700 damage/sec in PVP? Let's see... To deal 700 damage, we'd need a gun capable of hitting 2800 damage in PVE. Divide by 1.5 damage mod, then again by 5.0 for CripplingShot's mod, we come up with a gun that needs at least 373 max damage. Definitely achievable for a DXR6. But now let's assume you're going against someone who's competent. That means they have 70% armor (a very low assumption) and, since they're melee, some manner of toughness. So now we need at least 1243 for max damage (since we're now only doing 30% damage, and that's only counting the armor, not the toughness). Please let me know where you found such a gun.

Even using a DXR6 with 500 max damage, a better DXR6 than I've ever seen, you're still only doing 500 * 1.5 * 5.0 * 0.25 * 0.3 = 281 max damage per shot.

I don't care for arguments like this one. Just DON'T LIE IN ORDER TO SUPPORT YOUR VIEW. I WILL CATCH YOU.

what a bunch of whiners carbineer is not a profession with 1 special that you gotta spam in order to win.
master carbineer, BH 3/4/0/0 novice brawler[for intimidate] and medic 0/2/4/0[can drop medic to novice and get pistoleer 0/0/4/0 for defence].
i kick ass in pvp, simple as that, my armor is 33% stun and 63% base[crappy enc slice].
me and a guildie carbineer with the same template of mine went pvping, just the 2 of us.
and look, we get jumped by a tkm and a rifleman, the most feared professions![HA!].
oo look, a intimidated rifleman and stunned one will do about 15-50 damage with his jawa ion to mind BEFORE armor! and they die.
my DPS is very high, cripple shot and scatter2[scatter have a 33%/33%/33% to hit HAM] does anywhere from 200-1.2k pvp damage, my laser carbine is 2.5 93-469.
i duel TKMs and rifleman at starport that laugh at my carbines, and after i incap them they tend to ask what my template and how i did it, carbineer is ALOT MORE efficent in group pvp then rifleman, or even a brave TKM.
and no, i dont use any form of DOTs in group pvp carbineers are a wonder, we can do blind/stun/dizzy to GROUPS of enemys in 1-3 shots then KD them all with chargeshot2.
only thing i cant beat is a battle ready defence stacker, TBH i dont even expect to since nobody can kill a defence stacker beside another one[no rifleman cant..].
also remmeber, your not a front line fighter, let the melee die first while to dominate the battlefield, your greatest advantage is people underestimating you and going after carbineers last.
LEARN TO PVP!

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zanzanEXPO wrote:
what a bunch of whiners carbineer is not a profession with 1 special that you gotta spam in order to win.
master carbineer, BH 3/4/0/0 novice brawler[for intimidate] and medic 0/2/4/0[can drop medic to novice and get pistoleer 0/0/4/0 for defence].
i kick ass in pvp, simple as that, my armor is 33% stun and 63% base[crappy enc slice].
me and a guildie carbineer with the same template of mine went pvping, just the 2 of us.
and look, we get jumped by a tkm and a rifleman, the most feared professions![HA!].
oo look, a intimidated rifleman and stunned one will do about 15-50 damage with his jawa ion to mind BEFORE armor! and they die.
my DPS is very high, cripple shot and scatter2[scatter have a 33%/33%/33% to hit HAM] does anywhere from 200-1.2k pvp damage, my laser carbine is 2.5 93-469.
i duel TKMs and rifleman at starport that laugh at my carbines, and after i incap them they tend to ask what my template and how i did it, carbineer is ALOT MORE efficent in group pvp then rifleman, or even a brave TKM.
and no, i dont use any form of DOTs in group pvp carbineers are a wonder, we can do blind/stun/dizzy to GROUPS of enemys in 1-3 shots then KD them all with chargeshot2.
only thing i cant beat is a battle ready defence stacker, TBH i dont even expect to since nobody can kill a defence stacker beside another one[no rifleman cant..].
also remmeber, your not a front line fighter, let the melee die first while to dominate the battlefield, your greatest advantage is people underestimating you and going after carbineers last.
LEARN TO PVP!

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Ugh... 1200 damage in PVP?!? Are you **edit**ing KIDDING ME? 469 max damage * 1.5 * 5.0 * 0.25 is 879 damage. You'll hit 1200 damage if your opponent is wearing AP 0 armor with 0% resists, but not otherwise. I don't care for the rest of your post. I believe that you do well in PVP, because I do too. Just be a little more courteous and accurate with your numbers.

Arrrgh.

Message Edited by InfluenzaSWTA on 08-25-2004 05:22 PM

do you really think i will just stand and let the tkm beat me?hell no im going to kit, make him kneel, KD his butt till i kill him.
also intimidate+stun=85% less damage, synsteak[only food i ever eat anyway]+psg+stun armor+range mit3=good bye jawa ion

poster above:
i did 1.2k with scatter hit on a KD target, thats BEFORE armor.

Message Edited by zanzanEXPO on 08-25-2004 05:23 PM

edit 2:KD adds 50% more damage.
i guess you have to get your facts right

Message Edited by zanzanEXPO on 08-25-2004 05:27 PM

Then you didn't actually do 1200 damage. Before armor, I can do 3000 damage to a Nightsister Elder. OMG I RULE. Oh wait...

yes it is 1.2k pvp damage, suprise suprise your enemy's armor can be anywhere from 20% to 90%, im not going to see the numbers above the head, i just look at the combat log after each battle.

edit: well im not going to argue with you about it, its different views nobody can change each other's views of combat, g'morning im going to bed[3:33am]

Message Edited by zanzanEXPO on 08-25-2004 05:33 PM