Carbineer Archive

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ameew wrote:

Then all that has to happen is rich jedi pay bh's to let jedi kill them... and dont underestemate the power of friends... they'll look all day till they find the mission

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isnt that roleplaying?? Trying to "pay" the BH to not kill you.
I know alot of BHs doing this today - asking to get paid and drop mission.

All i know is - I will not stay and fight (until finsihed templet) if there is no reward in it for me.......
And I know most BHs want us to stay and fight......catch 22?

The other thing about the not loosing anything of bh is even if you win, some bh that cant stand loosing will just go, get new buffs and grab your mission again. Oh, and they will call a few friends....

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CollectorOfShoes wrote:

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ameew wrote:

Then all that has to happen is rich jedi pay bh's to let jedi kill them... and dont underestemate the power of friends... they'll look all day till they find the mission

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isnt that roleplaying?? Trying to "pay" the BH to not kill you.
I know alot of BHs doing this today - asking to get paid and drop mission.

All i know is - I will not stay and fight (until finsihed templet) if there is no reward in it for me.......
And I know most BHs want us to stay and fight......catch 22?

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I agree 100%, its just as easy, in fact easier, for me to hit the force run button and stick on a peace macro then it is for me to fight. There is no reason for me to fight except some dumb pvp rating....

I just want a skilled bh with high equipment can be 50%-50% like one-one/jango fett. You have jetpack and you are a bh? make it possible to attack whit the jetpack but it can be destroyed like obin-one do. A great pistol can kill a jedi like jango in the geonosian arena.. i want this! Not all bh powerfull but a skilled/good equipment bh

then you have to get them But at that same time jedi have worked alot harder to gain their skills. Bh should be more powerful, but its not a prof you just walk into and are the best at, you have to save up for the brilliant weapons, the top end krayt guns, the high damage sliced pistols.... Just like jedi spend alot of credits on their lightsabers

Or even something like bh looses 200 cond on all weapons he is carrying and 5k cond on any armour he is carrying when the jedi db.... That would make me stay and kill I only loose 400k xp when bh db, but this is 400k more then if i ran

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miodac wrote:

Simple question, what do Jedi expect from the BH element of the game. Do you want a one sided a fight in which 90% of the time jedi will

win or a 50%/50% in which the best tactics win, or indeed do you want to feel hunted with the odds against you ?

I am curious I have seen lots of what I class as whinging on both sides. As a BH I pretty much ignore jedi except to challenge them 1:1 when

I am particularly bored. I dont use droid bombs as it feels like cheating and have a 100% failure rate (being a range BH doesnt help).

I dont particularly mind losing, I can see that if my experiences are typical how the bad feeling and a lack of willingness to take BH missions

could build up, and I got to wondering if that is what most jedi really want i.e. just tobe left alone free mostly from the threat of being hunted

down.

Thankyou for your time

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It's a complex question realy. If the jedi profession was as easy/hard as the bounthunter profession, it should be a 50/50 win/lose situation. All things being equal. However, grinding the jedi profession is THE longest grind. It takes dedication, cunning, good resources (crystals and pearls) and above all...time. Let's say that jedi takes 50 times longer to gain than bountyhunter (haven't realy calculated the XP required. Just guessing here), then I would personally feal cheated if I could only win 6 out of 10 fights. I would say something like 8 out of 10 times would be more in tune with the effort involved.

The day they make jedi as "easy" to obtain as any other combat profession, is the day I would say: "yeah 50/50 win/lose chance against a bountyhunter.That's fair.". Untill then, a completed jedi template should win 8 or 9 out of 10 fights against a bountyhunter (I'm talking 1 on 1 here). If he didn't, what would be the point of making the grind so difficult and long if not to gain some advantage by it. The 1 or 2 wins out of 10 the bountyhunter gets, in my oppinion, are from timing the assault correctly. For instance if the jedi is unbuffed and hasn't taken any foods or anything. Or the bountyhunter starts his attack when the jedi's HAM's are low from fighting someone else or a creature lair.

1 on 1, if the jedi is buffed, fully aware of the imminent attack, stocked up on food, having his best saber equipped etc etc, then the jedi should win EVERY time. Unless it's an E-bay jedi who hasn't got a clue about what he is doing and the bountyhunter is an "old rat" in the business .

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miodac wrote:

Simple question, what do Jedi expect from the BH element of the game. Do you want a one sided a fight in which 90% of the time jedi will

win or a 50%/50% in which the best tactics win, or indeed do you want to feel hunted with the odds against you ?

I am curious I have seen lots of what I class as whinging on both sides. As a BH I pretty much ignore jedi except to challenge them 1:1 when

I am particularly bored. I dont use droid bombs as it feels like cheating and have a 100% failure rate (being a range BH doesnt help).

I dont particularly mind losing, I can see that if my experiences are typical how the bad feeling and a lack of willingness to take BH missions

could build up, and I got to wondering if that is what most jedi really want i.e. just tobe left alone free mostly from the threat of being hunted

down.

Thankyou for your time

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1 out of 5 chance of winning based on skill overall between both parties. i.e. (The only way to make this diverse is the point system how many points in jedi vs how many points in bh. (whomever has more should win typ deal) -- its hard to get into this concept but it makes sense.

But as far as it is right now a decent smart BH can solo a Knight, that aint good... not at all... this is based on Padawans..

The biggest issue involved is what is the loss to the bh if he does not live? This is the one catch that needs to have at least a small bounce back -- jedi has a HUGE loss, and set back the bh should have a small involved risk (dont know what though)

Message Edited by iskareot on 01-25-2005 10:14 AM

my friend suggested somethiing good a few weeks back. Bh would loose 100 bh xp per skill point of the jedi when the jedi db. The bh cannot take missions on jedi when they are in - xp.